|
kitten smoothie posted:The iPad 2 will take iOS 8; the Mini 1 is still basically an iPad 2 under the hood and they're still selling it brand new. His point was even though an iPad 2 will take iOS 8, the "hey Siri" feature is not enabled. Which isn't entirely true, because Siri doesn't even exist on iPad 2, so it's not really a matter of enabling or disabling a new iOS 8 feature. iPad 3 was the first iPad with Siri if I recall correctly.
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 06:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 20:26 |
|
|
Choadmaster posted:But really, don't buy an iPad 2. iPad 3s and even iPad Airs are cheap in the refurb store. Unless you have to have the retina screen at the absolute cheapest price, don't get a 3 and just spend a little extra for a refurbed 4. The A5 chips are just too old at this point.
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 06:16
|
|
|
Space Racist posted:Unless you have to have the retina screen at the absolute cheapest price, don't get a 3 and just spend a little extra for a refurbed 4. The A5 chips are just too old at this point. Ah yes, i forgot there was even a 4 between the 3 and the Air. Damned Apple, releasing a new iPad just 5 months after I bought mine!!
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 06:19
|
|
|
Choadmaster posted:Ah yes, i forgot there was even a 4 between the 3 and the Air. Damned Apple, releasing a new iPad just 5 months after I bought mine!! I think you mean between The New iPad and the Air. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 10:19
|
|
|
It was never called The New iPad, it was just numberless "iPad", and it was (at the time) new. That was of course stupid, but not as stupid as the internet making a name out of a definite article and an adjective.
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 15:00
|
|
|
Nah, it was the new iPad. Even if you think it technically doesn't count for some reason, it was in fact the new iPad because that's the only thing that distinguished it in marketing materials and it's entertaining to call it that when it barely runs the current OS now.
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 16:39
|
|
|
Choadmaster posted:It was never called The New iPad, it was just numberless "iPad", and it was (at the time) new. That was of course stupid, but not as stupid as the internet making a name out of a definite article and an adjective. https://web.archive.org/web/20120322160753/http://www.apple.com/ 
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 19:23
|
|
|
It goes iPad iPad 2 The New iPad iPad (4th Generation) iPad Air iPad Air 2
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 20:25
|
|
|
"Can I purchase the new iPad, please" Store clerk hands him a two year old device
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 20:31
|
|
|
dutchbstrd posted:It goes No, iPad 3 was "iPad with retina", iPad 4 was "The New iPad"
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 20:53
|
|
|
Bottom Liner posted:No, iPad 3 was "iPad with retina", iPad 4 was "The New iPad" iPad 3 was definitely "The New iPad."
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 21:07
|
|
|
Is there any consensus on the best iPad stylus at the moment? Preferably with a fine-ish point, no disc like some Adonit ones have
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 21:11
|
|
|
101 posted:"Can I purchase the new iPad, please" I suspect that most store clerks would ask for clarification in this situation.
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 21:36
|
|
|
Erwin posted:It was definitely called "The new iPad." Once again, the adjective in the marketing materials is descriptive, it is not part of the name. If the lowercase "new" isn't obvious enough, an Apple spokesman said right off the bat "it's just iPad" and Apple refers to it all over the place as "iPad" (or since the later models have been released, "iPad (third generation)" where the parenthetical is, again, descriptive).
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 21:47
|
|
|
Bottom Liner posted:No, iPad 3 was "iPad with retina", iPad 4 was "The New iPad"
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 21:48
|
|
|
Choadmaster posted:Once again, the adjective in the marketing materials is descriptive, it is not part of the name. If the lowercase "new" isn't obvious enough, an Apple spokesman said right off the bat "it's just iPad" and Apple refers to it all over the place as "iPad" (or since the later models have been released, "iPad (third generation)" where the parenthetical is, again, descriptive). Dude you're at best incredibly pedantic
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 22:46
|
|
|
fleshweasel posted:Dude you're at best incredibly pedantic I would say his pedantry is quite credible. What is incredible is 15 posts in a row arguing about this poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Nov 17, 2014 23:21
|
|
|
16 posts  . I took this screenshot a while back on Apple's recycling/trade in page: (It's no longer there though, it goes to a third party site with "iPad 3" and "iPad 4” now) Anyway 8.1.1 is out and fixes poo poo. DNS lookups no longer take a mysteriously long time and Safari's share sheet seems to remember custom ordering 
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 01:09
|
|
|
Wow, it was a throwaway joke. Wasn't looking to start a huge argument over what Apple called the device at the time.  If anybody really cares I'm sure the keynote when they announced it is still available somewhere.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 01:28
|
|
|
BGrifter posted:Wow, it was a throwaway joke. Wasn't looking to start a huge argument over what Apple called the device at the time. Hey you don't get to call off the name hunt, now. I think it's pretty funny people can't even remember the poo poo was called the "new iPad" lol
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 01:50
|
|
|
More importantly, why did it exist? Why did Apple decide to release a new tablet that spring and then another device less than 250 days later? Why was that device outlived for years by IPad 2? So many strange decisions around that product.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 03:12
|
|
|
Ogmius815 posted:More importantly, why did it exist? Ogmius815 posted:Why did Apple decide to release a new tablet that spring and then another device less than 250 days later?
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 03:16
|
|
|
Ogmius815 posted:More importantly, why did it exist? Why did Apple decide to release a new tablet that spring and then another device less than 250 days later? Why was that device outlived for years by IPad 2? So many strange decisions around that product. iPads were on a yearly update cycle with new ones coming in the Spring. A6X or Lightning or both weren't ready in time for the March 2012 upgrade, and you can't let a growth product like iPads miss an update, so the A5X iPad gets launched in March 2012. Apple decided to move iPads to Fall updates instead of Spring updates. In order to do a Spring to Fall transition, your transitional update has to be either 6 months or 18 months after your very last Spring update. A6X and Lightning are ready to go in Fall of 2012, so that's when the 4th generation iPad launched. The iPad 2 lasted as long as it did because it was really cheap to make and people were still paying insane margins to buy it. mulls fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Nov 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 04:00
|
|
|
fleshweasel posted:Dude you're at best incredibly pedantic Nah, just really sick of it. Either it's a "joke," in which case it's old and tired, or its an incorrect correction. I get quite tired of hearing "You mean The New iPad (tm)  " every time I say a thing about my iPad. It's like "so is your 6 bent yet? Ha ha ha" except, you know, three loving years later.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 05:21
|
|
|
Choadmaster posted:Nah, just really sick of it. Either it's a "joke," in which case it's old and tired, or its an incorrect correction. I get quite tired of hearing "You mean The New iPad (tm) I saw a The new iPad the other day. It was pretty slow.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 05:30
|
|
|
Choadmaster posted:Nah, just really sick of it. Either it's a "joke," in which case it's old and tired, or its an incorrect correction. I get quite tired of hearing "You mean The New iPad (tm) I mean it is pretty funny that the iPad that got branded "the new iPad" turned out to be the shortest lived product in the line by far. It's also kind of a dumb thing in the first place. Apple is super weird about product names.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 06:38
|
|
|
I thought The New iPad was a great name since that's how they roll out new Macs. There's no MacBook Air 3GS. The successor to the MacBook Air is called the MacBook Air. The big mistake was retconning the iPad mini with Retina Display and saying actually it's the iPad mini 2.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 21:55
|
|
|
TheQat posted:Is there any consensus on the best iPad stylus at the moment? Preferably with a fine-ish point, no disc like some Adonit ones have I have the adonit pixel point touch and it sucks. It's loud on the screen, and has a weird parallax effect where the ink never ends up where I want it unless i'm holding it at some predefined angle to the screen. I have since switched back to my wacom bamboo stylus (squishy tip one). I've been meaning to check out the new wacom stylus as I hear they have some stuff that combats the parallax effect somewhat but just can't justify another 100 bucks on a new stylus.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 22:22
|
|
|
iPad styluses seem painful. I am giving up for now on trying to find one that's any good. However, I picked up a Smart Cover and I find that it works great.
|
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 23:17
|
|
|
mulls posted:I thought The New iPad was a great name since that's how they roll out new Macs. There's no MacBook Air 3GS. The successor to the MacBook Air is called the MacBook Air. This would be fine if Apple would just be consistent about it. It seems like the wanted to move the iPad naming scheme in that direction with the third and forth iPads but changed their mind this year by calling the new tablets iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 3. I bought the smart case and I hate it. I wish I'd just bough the Smart Cover. It was pretty expensive too. I was just fooled at the time into not noticing that because I also bought a $600 tablet. Ogmius815 fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Nov 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Nov 18, 2014 23:22
|
|
|
mulls posted:NFC stands for near field communications. The "NFC hardware" is co-extensive with the "NFC antenna." If you don't have an antenna to communicate with another NFC antenna, you don't have NFC anything. Well, I wouldn't say that they don't have anything NFC related, since the iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 3 both contain the same NXP 65V10 NFC module that the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have. Besides all having the same NFC module, all four devices are the only current hardware that is listed as supporting Apple Pay. So while they may not have any actual "near-field communications" capability right now, they still have the NFC-something in them (Secure Element), and they still support at least one form of Apple Pay that the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus support. The only experience I've had with Apple Pay is using it on my iPad Air 2.
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2014 14:48
|
|
|
I stand corrected for my involvement in the NFC derail. Upon doing more reading I see the secure element for payments is a JavaCard based system. I assumed the payment secure element was part and parcel of the Secure Enclave in the A7/A8, but apparently not, that's just where Touch ID lives. There is some interaction between the secure element and secure enclave to authorize release of payment info for transactions upon Touch ID auth. The payment networks use JavaCard applets installed to the secure element to facilitate payments. So if you need a secure element that can run their JavaCard code, and you're already buying the NFC controllers at Apple scale anyway, then problem solved. Just don't wire it up to an antenna. Makes sense.
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2014 17:32
|
|
|
syndex posted:I have the adonit pixel point touch and it sucks. It's loud on the screen, and has a weird parallax effect where the ink never ends up where I want it unless i'm holding it at some predefined angle to the screen. I have since switched back to my wacom bamboo stylus (squishy tip one).
|
|
#
?
Nov 19, 2014 23:58
|
|
|
How is 8.1.1 on the iPad 2? My mum is currently on 7, is it worth updating?
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2014 00:06
|
|
|
dirtyfrog posted:How is 8.1.1 on the iPad 2? My mum is currently on 7, is it worth updating? Don't do it. It made my iPad 2 practically useless.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2014 01:00
|
|
|
Xenomorph posted:Well, I wouldn't say that they don't have anything NFC related, since the iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 3 both contain the same NXP 65V10 NFC module that the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have. Besides all having the same NFC module, all four devices are the only current hardware that is listed as supporting Apple Pay. Wow, well I guess I'm wrong there.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2014 03:48
|
|
|
dirtyfrog posted:How is 8.1.1 on the iPad 2? My mum is currently on 7, is it worth updating?
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2014 04:00
|
|
|
Every time I try to activate my iPad to my existing AT&T account on my iPad, it will only let me enter either my AT&T passcode or my SSN, but not both. I need both to activate it, but every time I click on the other, the information I just entered is deleted.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2014 08:24
|
|
|
CaptainYesterday posted:Every time I try to activate my iPad to my existing AT&T account on my iPad, it will only let me enter either my AT&T passcode or my SSN, but not both. I need both to activate it, but every time I click on the other, the information I just entered is deleted. AT&T just recently changed the requirements for their password, you have to log in to their website and change it to a 4-8 digit pin.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2014 13:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 27, 2024 20:26 |
|
|
Got my iPad Air 2 yesterday, but trying to set Gmail up is a pain. I keep hitting the security trap even though it really shouldn't. I've tried restarting, verifying the account through iOS Safari, even deleting and recreating the mail account. It's really annoying and I can't get it to properly work. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2014 21:38
|
|
