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I turned on the Bellator main event after the hunto loss and good lord that was an awful fight. It was a battle of who could do the least.
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Tito Ortiz: $300,000 Stephan Bonnar: $100,000 Ortiz def. Bonnar via split decision Will Brooks: $62,000 ($31,000 to show, $31,000 to win) Michael Chandler: $25,000 Brooks def. Chandler via technical knockout Joe Schilling: $25,000 Melvin Manhoef: $10,000 Schilling def. Manhoef via knockout Mike Richman: $30,000 ($20,000 to show, $10,000 to win) Nam Phan: $5,600 Richman def. Phan via knockout Muhammed Lawal: $10,000 Joe Vedepo: $10,000 Lawal def. Vedepo via technical knockout Joao Faria: $5,000 ($2,500 to show, $2,500 to win) Ian Butler: $1,500 Faria def. Butler via submission A.J. Matthews: $10,000 ($5,000 to show, $5,000 to win) Kyle Bolt: $2,000 Matthews def. Bolt via knockout Jonathan Santa Maria: $4,000 ($2,000 to show, $2,000 to win) Ron Henderson: $2,000 Santa Maria def. Henderson via split decision Andy Murad: $8,000 ($4,000 to show, $4,000 to win) Bubba Pugh: $2,000 Murad def. Pugh via split decision Nicolas Garcia: $8,000 ($4,000 to show, $4,000 to win) Matthew Ramirez: $2,000 Garcia def. Ramirez via submission Jordan Bailey: $5,000 ($2,500 to show, $2,500 to win) Alex Higley: $1,500 Bailey def. Higley via submission Rolando Perez: $2,000 Mark Vorgeas: $2,000 Perez fought Vorgeas to a split draw
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Nov 18, 2014 23:37
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Mike Richman vs. Nam Poorman
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I'm not sure if it's unbelievable or completely believable that King Mo is supposedly only getting 10k a fight
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Nov 18, 2014 23:43
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He gets paid for TNA too or something.
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I'm just happy Brooks steamrolled Chandler again.
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Nov 18, 2014 23:58
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Nov 19, 2014 05:28
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm just happy Brooks steamrolled Chandler again. They'll find another way to make Chandler the champ. Don't you worry.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:38
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1st AD posted:He gets paid for TNA too or something. lol
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Nov 19, 2014 05:40
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I like how Bellator is doing the burger king approach now. We aren't number one...so lets create poo poo with 50 thousand calories because when people complain about fast food being junk they're talking about McDonalds anyway.
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Nov 19, 2014 20:32
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Let's not call it Bellator anymore, there's no more tournaments and they have an entrance ramp. It's Strikeforce all over again.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I like how Bellator is doing the burger king approach now. We aren't number one...so lets create poo poo with 50 thousand calories because when people complain about fast food being junk they're talking about McDonalds anyway. uhhhhhhhh, excuse me?
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Nov 19, 2014 20:37
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Triticum Guzzler posted:uhhhhhhhh, excuse me? There was an interview a long rear end time ago with an (ex?) executive of theirs where they said when fast food really started getting hit for needing to be more healthy they purposefully didn't respond as forcefully or quickly as McD's because 1) they didn't have to, as McD's is the "face" of fast food (when people were saying fast food is giving everyone diabetes, they would say big macs and happy meals were doing it) and 2) to see if they could gain ground by still putting out new 1k calorie burgers while McD's focussed on healthier food. They came around eventually because it was later proven that there's money in it, but that happened. The analogue being Bellator putting on gimmicky poo poo like putting Bonnar/Ortiz as the main event with glee and letting the UFC fret about whether or not they're hurting legitimacy when they put together a less than respectable matchup. Scott Coker doesn't have to worry about it as much because people talk and care more about Conor Mcgregor getting this or that than Bellator being trashy. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:There was an interview a long rear end time ago with an (ex?) executive of theirs where they said when fast food really started getting hit for needing to be more healthy they purposefully didn't respond as forcefully or quickly as McD's because 1) they didn't have to, as McD's is the "face" of fast food (when people were saying fast food is giving everyone diabetes, they would say big macs and happy meals were doing it) and 2) to see if they could gain ground by still putting out new 1k calorie burgers while McD's focussed on healthier food. They came around eventually because it was later proven that there's money in it, but that happened. The term for this I believe is "shadow marketing." It's brilliant because it not only displaces responsibility, as you say, on the market leader, but it allows you to appeal to the demographics which are sick of all of the bullshit that accompanies whatever the main trend is. To extend the food example, in a marketplace obsessed with health, fitness, and discipline, to package something as a treat, indulgence, or luxury is that strategy. Bellator is establishing itself as the platform for people who care more about cool knockouts to competitive elite decisions, who prefer trash talk to respectful athletes, and who couldn't care less about talent development, prospects, or legitimacy, as long as that stuff gets in the way of witnessing someone get hurt in an entertaining way. Bellator is Micheal Bay to the UFC's Wes Anderson (rough analogy, but it makes the point). The trick in MMA is that the people (like me) who like the competitive technical fights, respectful athletes, and legitimacy will still tune in for the popcorn promotion in which fat guys who consider it cowardly to slip punches get put up against K1-level kickboxers.
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If I thought the UFC was a movie director I would say they are Christopher Nolan, because they had to bankroll their own breakout and think their livelihood has meaning beyond hunky guys being violent and embroiled in inexplicable timelines.
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Christopher Nolan sounds good. I just went with the first non-asplosiony-blockbuster but still pretty popular and money-making director that came to mind. Maybe Bellator could be Uwe Bol, in that he doesn't actually try to make good movies, and many of the viewers are on board just to see what kind of trainwreck results.
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Nov 19, 2014 21:43
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Oplot is Tommy Wiseau that's all I know
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Oplot is Tommy Wiseau that's all I know SFL would be Wiseau, Oplot would be movies that only show up in 8mm or a film made by Serbians
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Yuriy posted:SFL would be Wiseau, Oplot would be movies that only show up in 8mm or a film made by Serbians Srđan Spasojević
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Nov 19, 2014 22:30
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PRIDE would be Takeshi Kitano who's works are either comedic or extremely violent, also Yakuza involved.
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masato tatanka posted:PRIDE would be Takeshi Kitano who's works are either comedic or extremely violent, also Yakuza involved. And both of them wound up overdubbed on Spike
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Is this man, a manager of fighters with UFC contracts, aware that he looks like a homeless hobo talking to a nudge at night court?
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Vanessa Porto out, roxy fights some chicked named Andrea Lee
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Yuriy posted:Vanessa Porto out, roxy fights some chicked named Andrea Lee At this rate I'm starting to get concerned that Roxy is going to put together a winning streak against novices and cans and then end up welcoming Cyborg to 35. That won't be pretty.
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Captain Log posted:Is this man, a manager of fighters with UFC contracts, aware that he looks like a homeless hobo talking to a nudge at night court? I'm glad someone else understood how many layers of weirdness were in this picture because there are a few
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According to the guy who conducted the interview, Kogan isn't actually Nate's manager anymore. Bloody Elbow posted:I was told Kogan resigned because the UFC wouldn’t talk to him so he thought it was a waste of his clients money to pay an intermediary. 
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Nov 21, 2014 03:36
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So Kogan resigned and Nate immediately got a decent fight? weird.
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I realize I have noted and posted a shitload of examples of how incompetent and racist Kogan is but jesus how incompetent do you have to be to get blackballed so bad by the UFC even you know it
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:I'm glad someone else understood how many layers of weirdness were in this picture because there are a few Exactly. What's going on with that weird chair back there? Where did it come from? That's a weird looking chair. Did someone go to Home Depot and hammer together abunch of cheap wood to make some sort of work bench? It doesn't look like someone spent more than twenty bucks and spent thirty minutes of times to get that together. Also, are those blank cork board behind him in the photo? I would like to challenge someone to find a not problem in that photo. Everything is a problem on some level.
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Yuriy posted:Vanessa Porto out, roxy fights some chicked named Andrea Lee If that's KGB Lee then Roxy is gonna get murdered.
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1st AD posted:If that's KGB Lee then Roxy is gonna get murdered. Apparently it is, who is she and what has she done
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She's like a flyweight Cerrone. Lanky striker, wears a cowboy hat.
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Oh poo poo she was on Invicta 9. There were many extra vaginas visible in the ring when she was finished with her opponent. She actually reminded me more of Wonderboy than of Cerrone. Yeah. Roxy is in trouble.
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CommonShore posted:She actually reminded me more of Wonderboy than of Cerrone. She fights way more like Cerrone than Thompson. How does she remind you of him?
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I honestly can't remember, so it was just the impression from the one fight which I saw. It could have been that she threw a kick like the one he used to KO Stittigen. Upon reflection she did spend more time in the clinch than either of them tend to.
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