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Raenir Salazar posted:Shinji's really popular with the ladies though; its hard to imagine why he'd want Tohsoka so badly when he could probably have almost any girl as his girlfriend.
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Paracelsus posted:She's the only person there who he views as even remotely part of the same class as he is, because she's the only one from another mage family. That's kinda hilarious since even if he wasn't a dick she would never pick him due to him not being able to cast magic. 
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Nov 20, 2014 09:57
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The real reason is that being so obviously rich, she's the only one who would never want him for his money.
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The Evil Thing posted:The real reason is that being so obviously rich, she's the only one who would never want him for his money. People tends to forget this, but the Matou family is actually richer than the Tohsaka. Tohsaka mages spend a lot of money in expensive ancient gems for they magic, so Rin has a lot of economical problems.
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YggdrasilTM posted:People tends to forget this, but the Matou family is actually richer than the Tohsaka. Tohsaka mages spend a lot of money in expensive ancient gems for they magic, so Rin has a lot of economical problems. Yes, I was being ironic.
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Nov 20, 2014 12:08
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Technically even though Kirei totally ruined the Tohsaka family finances, Rin still has enough to live comfortably, but she's one of those prideful people that refuses to use money she didn't get by herself.
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Kyte posted:Technically even though Kirei totally ruined the Tohsaka family finances, Rin still has enough to live comfortably, but she's one of those prideful people that refuses to use money she didn't get by herself. Is it elaborated how he managed to do this and was it deliberate? Or is that still spoiler territory for UBW?
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I believe it is canon that Kirei bankrupted the Tohsaka estate by eating mapo tofu every day. It really adds up after 10 years.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Is it elaborated how he managed to do this and was it deliberate? Or is that still spoiler territory for UBW? I think it's pretty well-established Kirei likes to torment Rin in way he can. He might not get a chance to be a super villain in the years between zero and stay night, but it's not for lack of trying.
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jellycat posted:I believe it is canon that Kirei bankrupted the Tohsaka estate by eating mapo tofu every day. It really adds up after 10 years. Dramatic Mapo Tofu eating, Death Note-style.
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Rodyle posted:Looks only I think you're forgetting the Russian bombshell, Natalia Kaminski. 
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I took a look at the Type-Moon wiki and it says (according to one of the material books), Kirei actually lost most of the wealth through honest mismanagement and ended up figuring, as a priest, humble poverty would be a good educational experience for Rin. The wiki also says he orders multiple servings of mapo tofu when he eats, which I had forgotten about but only strengthens my theory.
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jellycat posted:I took a look at the Type-Moon wiki and it says (according to one of the material books), Kirei actually lost most of the wealth through honest mismanagement and ended up figuring, as a priest, humble poverty would be a good educational experience for Rin. I actually find Kirei as a bad financial administrator way more funny. Also, the side effect was making Rin greedy, stingy and generally obsessed by money. "Good educational experience" indeed.
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YggdrasilTM posted:I actually find Kirei as a bad financial administrator way more funny. Also, the side effect was making Rin greedy, stingy and generally obsessed by money. "Good educational experience" indeed. Hollow Ataraxia suggests that Rin was like that even as a young child, though. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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Silver2195 posted:Hollow Ataraxia suggests that Rin was like that even as a young child, though. I have to admit that I found a lot of the Rin segments in F/HA quite boring, so maybe I didn't pay enough attention.
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The best Rin part in Hollow Ataraxia out of what I've played so far is the scene where Shirou says he doesn't have any problems being totally obedient to her and actually enjoys it. I swear this is also like the fifth scene in HA where the topic of men being subservient to women in a relationship is brought up in a kind of humorous context, but also presented as enjoyable. God bless you, Nasu, now just stop putting rape in your stories.
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Hollow Ataraxia is a game in which Shirou goes shopping, only to run into Caster and Sakura, who made friends when Caster deep fried Lancer for creeping on Sakura. Sakura then launches into a lengthy rant about Rin while pretending (badly) that she's talking about Akiha (Shirou believe this because  ).HA is loving weird (also great, play HA).
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Hollow Ataraxia also has Rin's rival in an ojou-type character from Finland who loving suplexes people.
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Fate/hollow ataraxia is Carnival Phantasm: The Game, and possibly the best Type-Moon work ever created. I hope the Heaven's Feel movie doesn't come long after Unlimited Blade Works finishes, because everyone in this thread should play it after they've been through the whole story of Fate/stay night.
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nothing to see here (I did forget it wasn't the megathread )
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Nov 20, 2014 19:04
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lol i hope there's nobody still reading this thread who cares about spoilers hopefully they've learned by now
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Cake Attack posted:lol i hope there's nobody still reading this thread who cares about spoilers I think people forgot that this wasn't the type-moon thread somewhere around the Gilgamesh chat.
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Cake Attack posted:lol i hope there's nobody still reading this thread who cares about spoilers It's literally impossible to talk about stuff without spoiling it, as this subforum has taught me.
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I'm trying to keep all my non-UBW talk limited to characterization stuff instead of plot spoilers because I'd like people who don't already know everything to be able to use this thread, but I don't know if that helps.
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jellycat posted:I'm trying to keep all my non-UBW talk limited to characterization stuff instead of plot spoilers because I'd like people who don't already know everything to be able to use this thread, but I don't know if that helps. Even though it's been said - multiple times - that if it's not in this show or its predecessor to not discuss it?
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There's a thread that was explicitly made to curb this kind of poo poo and everyone just started ignoring it. shake my loving head.
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Shyrka posted:Caster is the true star of HA. Yeah dude can you spoiler that please? Anyways, saturday can't come soon enough.
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The entire point of the Type Moon thread was to stop the spoilers in this thread, but for some reason people think this is the perfect place to post HA chat and major plot spoilers. I honestly think this thread would be better off closed during the downtime between episodes at this point since it just seems to derail into spoilers and type moon chat.
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By the way people were talking about it, I just assumed HA was some non-canon comedy thing, but I guess those are actual spoilers then?
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Tarodia posted:By the way people were talking about it, I just assumed HA was some non-canon comedy thing, but I guess those are actual spoilers then? It's complicated.
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At the very least don't worry about it for the duration of this show. Maybe look into after the show and/or movie(s) are over.
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I'm not finished with it yet, so as far as I can tell it's basically a non-canon comedy thing, but it definitely assumes you've finished all of FSN. At the very least, it's not Unlimited Blade Works, so I will not post about it in here anymore.
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Tarodia posted:By the way people were talking about it, I just assumed HA was some non-canon comedy thing, but I guess those are actual spoilers then? Your first assumption was basically right. You should really wait until after F/sn to get to HA, but for the same reason that you'd want to hold off on Carnival Phantasm.
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Returning to the topic of dudes and ladies… I really like a lot of Fate/stay night's secondary characters, but Mitsuzuri Ayako is probably my favorite. For someone with so little importance to the plot, she felt like a very multi-dimensional character and I really liked that she had comfortable and friendly relationships with both Rin and Shirou.
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Yeah Ayako is particularly interesting to read in the LN, especially with Seorin's colourful commentary.  I liked how there was this one person in the whole world Rin could be comfortable and friendly around and do normal girl stuff.
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Ayako is cool but she just completely drops out of the story a few days in. Even though her prologue scene brings up a few potential plot threads.
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Well that is certainly different from the movie version. I can actually understand a little why Shirou and Archer start hating each other.
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Kojirou  Team Caster has always been my favorite faction.
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This episode, like the one with Berserker, was glorious. Archer: Renegade for life.
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