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Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

Cocoa Crispies posted:

gmail was also originally an internal-only thing somebody wrote in 20% time

so of course it must be adapted for users that it wasn't intended for and isn't popular with at the expense of its original users, that's the google way

yes, companies generally adapt products to their users. google engineers should try using a real email client

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

yes, companies generally adapt products to their users. google engineers should try using a real email client

gmail worked better for them because they could weld other internal processes (code review and poo poo like that) into it more easily than if they used an early 2000s email client

at this point they have a decade of poo poo hacked on to gmail that they can't not use, that's why they got outraged at inbox throwing all that away

nobody there uses a real email client because their jobs depend on them using gmail, and they can't fix that either because it's 10,000 stubborn autists

everything attached to email is super-lovely anyways: clients, servers, the culture, advertisements, etc.

there's no way to fix it

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

rjmccall posted:

like every other engineering group in the world, google engineers

lmao

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Cocoa Crispies posted:

10,000 stubborn autists
they didn't really find popularity until they changed their name

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka
Email is just terrible. If its important enough to tell someone about who doesn't work in your building just send a loving letter. I can't wait for stupid internet fangled techno fad to die.

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

The Leck posted:

they didn't really find popularity until they changed their name

:golfclap:

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
idgi, is it a 10000 maniacs joke or somethign

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Sham bam bamina! posted:

idgi, is it a 10000 maniacs joke or somethign

you're one of them lmbo

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

10,000 Maniacs are attempting something we've never done before.  This spring we will record an entire album of Traditional Folk Songs from the British Isles

lol

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

vodkat posted:

Email is just terrible. If its important enough to tell someone about who doesn't work in your building just send a loving letter. I can't wait for stupid internet fangled techno fad to die.

as someone who spent several years working on an email client, i can confirm this: email is the worst

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

it has finally happened. google is now microsoft.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

duTrieux. posted:

it has finally happened. google is now microsoft.

i'd be happy if google was microsoft, they'd never touch gmail again and would maintain compatibility

google is 90s apple at the moment: they have no idea what the gently caress they're doing

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

the gmail/inbox thing is, what, the fifteenth or so canary to die in that coal mine?

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

Google intends to launch a version of its Google Play app store in China, hoping to exercise greater influence over a market that accounts for roughly half the people who use its Android mobile operating system, say several people with knowledge of the company’s plans.

In recent months, the company has indicated its intention to reverse a longstanding Google policy and distribute its app store with phone makers and other potential partners in China, according to a person who was involved in the discussions and two people who were briefed about them. Such a move would be a remarkable turn of events following the public feuding between Google and Chinese authorities over hacking allegations nearly five years ago.




lol slaughtering all the sacred cows shows u just how desperate google is

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

it's to make ios even more of a niche phone os than it already is op

Axel Rhodes Scholar
May 12, 2001

Courage Reactor

Cocoa Crispies posted:

gmail worked better for them because they could weld other internal processes (code review and poo poo like that) into it more easily than if they used an early 2000s email client

at this point they have a decade of poo poo hacked on to gmail that they can't not use, that's why they got outraged at inbox throwing all that away

nobody there uses a real email client because their jobs depend on them using gmail

nah. there's people using Gnus of all things to get their jobs done.

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

lmao yahoo got default search on firefox

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/11/19/promoting-choice-and-innovation-on-the-web/

this is the kind of stuff thats gonna happen when the EU busts open google's bundling

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

cremnob posted:

this is the kind of stuff thats gonna happen when the EU busts open google's bundling

no it isn't

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
list things google currently makes that nobody knows about

- google keep

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Wild EEPROM posted:

list things google currently makes that nobody knows about

- google keep

hi nobody

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

vodkat posted:

Email is just terrible. If its important enough to tell someone about who doesn't work in your building just send a loving letter. I can't wait for stupid internet fangled techno fad to die.

idk why people say this kind of poo poo becauuse email plays an "important" role in my life.
things i get emails about

school poo poo (for son)
kindy poo poo (for son)
porofessional development poo poo
updates to safety things for professional development
backwards and foprwards between rental manager, property buyers, lawyers, insurance, brokers n poo poo


i mean yeah a lot of junk but gmail clears that well
the res tthough.. i guess sorry your life has no meaning? i guess email would suck then

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

when you get a loving full time job that uses email let us know

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
i like to receive emails because they are usually pornhub comment reply notifications

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

PleasureKevin posted:

when you get a loving full time job that uses email let us know

i get my pay statements via email

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

PleasureKevin posted:

when you get a loving full time job that exists because of email let us know

letting you know

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
one day i will work full time and you know what? my life will be worse for it. there are no doubts about that

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
Neat facts: I have never once dialed any phone number for my current job, and have no idea what the phone number is so I have to google it every time I fill out a loan app or w/e

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


i sent an email once

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jonny 290 posted:

Neat facts: I have never once dialed any phone number for my current job, and have no idea what the phone number is so I have to google it every time I fill out a loan app or w/e

but how do you call in sick?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"

Jonny 290 posted:

Neat facts: I have never once dialed any phone number for my current job, and have no idea what the phone number is so I have to google it every time I fill out a loan app or w/e

same. i've been at my job almost 6 months, i have my own phone and phone number and everything but the phone just sits there and collects dust. i havent used it even once.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

echinopsis posted:

but how do you call in sick?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I'm American. We don't call in 'sick'.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
:thejoke:

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Elder Postsman posted:

same. i've been at my job almost 6 months, i have my own phone and phone number and everything but the phone just sits there and collects dust. i havent used it even once.

i use my desk phone all the drat time because the engineering industry is absolutely filled with olds who looooove leaving business voicemail

earlier this week i was marveling at how outlook has an entire tab in the default view configuration dedicated to facebook/social media integration

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Wild EEPROM posted:

list things google currently makes that nobody knows about

- google keep

i use google keep a lot

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


when will they end the keep

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

theadder posted:

when will they end the keep

when you lay siege to it

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



theadder posted:

when will they end the keep

I'll start the google keep watch

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

PleasureKevin posted:

when you get a loving full time job that uses email let us know

hi

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

I was responding to echi

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Jonny 290 posted:

I'm American. We don't call in 'sick'.

I work in academia

I have two separate pools of time off; one for sick, one for vacation, +some personal days/holidays

sitting at like 280 or so hours sick time, and 310 hours of vacation, and a week or so of personal days/holidays

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