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If Freemason's have no other purpose but trolling people by virtue of their existence, then they've been one of the most successful organizations in history.
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vegaji posted:Well gently caress, the Bellingcat article has been thoroughly debunked. Pack it up, folks. That scrub didn't even touch on his connections to SA, a known CIA front, where intelligence agents operate/hide in plain sight under the cover of GBS white noise and EVE online. What an amateur. Cake Smashing Boob fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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El Scotch posted:If Freemason's have no other purpose but trolling people by virtue of their existence, then they've been one of the most successful organizations in history. Ask them.
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Benito Hitlerstalin posted:That scrub didn't even touch on his connections to SA, a known CIA front, where intelligence agents operate/hide in plain sight under the cover of GBS white noise and EVE online. What an amateur. Obvious, the "dark one" is a reference to this being a Jew and human being forum, the worst type of forum possible in East Europe. The rest may have varying shades of truth. 'Varying shades of truth' in the sense that if Obama hadn't overthrown the Ukranian government and subverted Rule of Law in Eastern Europe, MH17 would not have been shot down. Obama! 
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Nov 20, 2014 23:27
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This guy's facebook and twitter accounts are everything you would expect. Links to Alex Jones, Ebola, Bellingcat is a CIA front full of bs, roasted fetuses found in luggage intended for black magic. Chemtrails, GMOs.
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my dad posted:Ask them. 
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vegaji posted:-Brown Moses's avatar shows that he is on the "dark side" (warlock?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSbWXnRMSb4
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Polish local elections again - a protest has been organized near the headquarters of National Electoral Commission (PKW). Its main participants were people interrelated with KNP (crazy monarchist libertarians), Ruch Narodowy (borderline nazis), Solidarni 2010 (conspiracy theorists who claim that Lech Kaczynski's plane has been blown up by Russian intelligence) and Demokracja Bezposrednia (a party advocating for direct democracy - I have no idea what they were doing there). They demanded an immediate resignation of all members of PKW and announcement of re-elections. Some of the protesters stormed the building and occupied it for several hours, before being led out by the police and arrested. I feel bad about the hapless student who wrote the electoral calculator and probably ruined her career. Many people write bad software, but not everyone can make it so atrocious to spark riots.
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Congratulations  , we're now officially having a contested election with violent incidents. Boy, being a fully stable democracy was fun while it lasted!Also Gantolandon, Direct Democracy are total dupes to the far-right and mostly the same libertarian ponytail demographic as KNP, it's hardly a surprise. (Fun fact: in Poland in the past few years a common derogatory term for libertarians has become kuc, meaning "pony", because of their stereotypical ponytail. And also, among the well-informed on awful internet poo poo, their disproportionate representation among bronies. They gather on wykop.pl, our local equivalent of reddit. Truly we have the gooniest political life of any country)
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Guildencrantz posted:Also Gantolandon, Direct Democracy are total dupes to the far-right and mostly the same libertarian ponytail demographic as KNP, it's hardly a surprise. gently caress, this is really disappointing. I never had any delusions about their chances, but at I thought there finally is a party I could vote for without vomiting on the ballot. But yeah, having "balanced budget" as an important part of their program should have been a warning sign for me. Guildencrantz posted:Congratulations It's not as bad as it sounds like, though. Local elections were always pretty much ignored by a large part of the nation, because in many places they are pretty much rallies of support for the current presidents/mayors/councils. These ones were quite atrocious, but completely unimportant. If this happened during the presidential or parliamentary elections, it could have tragic results. Right now it's only pathetic, hilarious and a bit sad.
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http://www.unian.info/politics/1011888-girkin-says-he-and-his-special-ops-team-started-conflict-in-donbas.html Can't check Zavtra at the moment but, if yes, I wonder why is he coming up with that now.
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kalstrams posted:http://www.unian.info/politics/1011888-girkin-says-he-and-his-special-ops-team-started-conflict-in-donbas.html The international equivalent of "going state's witness"? I'm pretty sure he's looking to avoid a war crime tribunal (or a Putin-planted polonium pomegranate) for MH17, so it's time to name names. \/\/\/ Oh god, I missed the "brony" connection. That's hilarious. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Guildencrantz posted:(Fun fact: in Poland in the past few years a common derogatory term for libertarians has become kuc, meaning "pony", because of their stereotypical ponytail. And also, among the well-informed on awful internet poo poo, their disproportionate representation among bronies. They gather on wykop.pl, our local equivalent of reddit. Truly we have the gooniest political life of any country) Ahahahahah that's incredible
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Wow things looking pretty unstable in Poland there. Maybe they need a strong regional power to step in and protect Russian citizens.
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Bring back the liberum veto in the Sejm.
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AceRimmer posted:Bring back the liberum veto in the Sejm. Maybe they should just try a personal union under the Lithuanian government.
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And here we have the Prime Minister finally commenting the events of yesterday. Of course, the entire situation is the fault of PiS and SLD, the two parties that weren't a part of the protest and distanced themselves from it immediately. How dare they criticize our elections and plant wrong ideas in the minds of the far right? I didn't think out politicians could be more stupid (after a "social-democratic" deputy demanded a raise, telling everyone he can't be expected to live with salary about 2.5x the average), but here it comes. It's almost like she wanted to lose the next elections.
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Young Freud posted:The international equivalent of "going state's witness"? I'm pretty sure he's looking to avoid a war crime tribunal (or a Putin-planted polonium pomegranate) for MH17, so it's time to name names. On the contrary, the moron seems to revel in his celebrity status among the overweight nationalists and goony military bloggers with scary nicknames. "Oh yeah, I totally owned them hohols, would have taken Kiev if not for the Jews and Surkov"  If he wanted amnesty, he would've gone to western journalists and embassies; instead he is doing his hardest to become another martyr crank like Kvachkov.
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OddObserver posted:Maybe they should just try a personal union under the Lithuanian government. Can I be the newly elected king? I promise to change my name to Vladimir Jogaila or Zygimintas Augustas if required. I promise not to do anything at all, like all royalty do.
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OddObserver posted:Maybe they should just try a personal union under the Lithuanian government. The more likely plan would be declaring war against Czech Republic, and then immediately surrendering on condition of total annexation. Karmalis posted:Can I be the newly elected king? I promise to change my name to Vladimir Jogaila or Zygimintas Augustas if required. I promise not to do anything at all, like all royalty do. That'd be the most boring Pacta Conventa ever signed by an elective king, probably most doable too.
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http://www.tvn24.pl/amatorska-bomba-szykowana-na-manifestacje-w-swieto-niepodleglosci-policja-sprawdza,490935,s.html The Polish independence march from earlier this month was highjacked by a group of 200 hooligans, which ended in some scuffles with the police, but now it seems things might have been much worse. Warsaw police is investigating an explosion that took place a week before the march. Some details that are emerging are that three football hooligans were ordering fireworks en masse, then disarming them and collecting the explosives into a large glass jar, which they apparently planned o take with them to the march. Luckily, these fellows or never smart or sober, and in this case it resulted in a premature explosion, with glass shards almost decapitating the ring leader and seriously maiming the other two. Between the somewhat violent mach and militant far right, it seems a tiny but vocal right-wing minority is itching for some blood to be spilled. Sad thing is, evenually someone will get killed, and I don't see any sensible way of difusing this. We are not talking Maidan-level tensions here, but someone will get hurt soon if this goes on.
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 Igor Girkin/Strelkov The former separatist leader has given an interview for a Russian Zavtra newspaper. The story in Finnish here. I'll try to translate all the relevant points below.
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Well... This is interesting...
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Valiantman posted:
Why do I have a feeling that he is going to drink a cup of polonium tea soon.
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Lawman 0 posted:Why do I have a feeling that he is going to drink a cup of polonium tea soon. Probably the journalists, too. You have to wonder what he's trying to accomplish, here. Could this be a bit of a paradigm shift? Can Russia still keep denying its war crimes with a straight face? Or is this actually some kind of Russian plot to try and move from a "We didn't do it, gently caress you" narrative to a "Russia strong, Russia can do anything it likes and kill anyone it likes, Russia will burn away the decadent west in atomic hellfire in the name of great leader Vladimir Putin" one? The fact that he didn't spill the beans on the more disgusting stuff like the horrifying torture and slaughter of civilians and the conscripts who were "disappeared" after dying is kind of a disappointment.
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Other bits of news regarding Ukraine from the same Finnish state news agency:
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Lawman 0 posted:Why do I have a feeling that he is going to drink a cup of polonium tea soon. I have a suspicion he is trying to get all of the credit so Russia could get out of the thing and the west would lift the sanctions. Russia would say "Hey, it wasn't us, it was THAT guy". There is an article in Lithuanian media about there being a power struggle in Russia, where Putin is basically losing control and is now only left "for show". This could be related really. The article says it's from https://charter97.org, however I'm yet to find the original and maybe I'll translate when I get some time. Edit: For anyone who dares to use google translate: http://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/world/rusijos-opozicioniere-v-putinas-jau-praktiskai-suestas.d?id=66456508 VoltairePunk fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Death to Putin, death to the separatists. Dismantle the Russian economy until Russia is unable to continue it's illegal war and occupation. Edit: Also this. Heh. 
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Karmalis posted:There is an article in Lithuanian media about there being a power struggle in Russia, where Putin is basically losing control and is now only left "for show". This could be related really. I've also been seeing Putin and other government goons going on about how awful revolutions are and how they're on the lookout for "traitors," so I'm pretty sure this actually could very well be going down.
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Looks like a coalition agreement has finally been signed in Ukraine. 5 parties are participating: Poroshenko Block, People's Front, Self-Help, Fatherland, and Radical Party. I think they are supposed to publish the text soon (one of the earlier drafts was made public).
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OddObserver posted:Looks like a coalition agreement has finally been signed in Ukraine. 5 parties are participating: Based on the reports I've seen they plan to show the middle finger to the east and say "NATO and EU is our plan".
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Karmalis posted:I have a suspicion he is trying to get all of the credit so Russia could get out of the thing and the west would lift the sanctions. Russia would say "Hey, it wasn't us, it was THAT guy". He's too explicit about Russian involvement for that to be the plan, though.
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my dad posted:He's too explicit about Russian involvement for that to be the plan, though. But he's just a man that can be made into a scapegoat. Again, I'm just brainstorming about it, I doubt we'll know what is going on for sure any time soon.
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Disco Infiva posted:Wait a minute! I thought that Russia wasn't involved. Strelkov was actually developed in a CIA facility. Somehow.
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Forgall posted:Maybe he thinks Russia isn't helping him enough and wants to spur it into more open involvement? It does seem like he'll end up dead for this, but he might be fine with becoming a martyr if he gets to start hot war. To be honest it is very hard for me to feel he speaks what he thinks. It does look more that he speaks what he is told to speak.
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These points kinda bug me, because from almost the very start you had the Russian volunteers being shipped in and an awful lot of reports (even from the rebel side in frustration) that the locals weren't turning out for glorious revolution and the dudes with guns weren't from the area and didn't seem to be familiar with it. I guess technically the second point might be true if you only count active duty troops. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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