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booksnake
May 4, 2009

we who are crowned with the crest of wisdom
Those 10 seconds starting from "Concealed Sword" is just such a good sequence. Like, holy poo poo the presentation of that attack - its abruptness, the sound cues, just it is so gooooooooooood.

Also I think someone earlier in the thread predicted the Archer flashback + Rin wakeup cut.

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Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Archer is amazing. So, so, SO happy about this remake letting him show his stuff. :allears:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I feel like the past two episodes are a pretty good microcosm of this story in general, words words words Holy poo poo Crazy Magic Sword Brawl ok back to words words.

As cool as the fight was I think my favorite part was the childish bickering between Shirou/Archer. I don't remember it being as funny as it was here. Still as great as the Archer fight was I think I have to give the most credit to Kojiro's Tsubame Gaeshi. That was a loving cool effect/sequence.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Kojiro is the best. Also holy poo poo those fights.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Man there were like four action sequences that went by so fast I had to go back and frame-by-frame to appreciate them fully. I wish ufotable could animate everything.

Sindai fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 23, 2014

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
So, uh, pretty much all those fight scenes were great, so I guess I'll just take suggestions for gifs? :stare: I dunno where to start.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Saber trying to grab Assassin's sword, tsubame gaeshi, Archer cutting Caster, Archer shooting Caster, Shiroe/Archer's synchronized indignation at Caster.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

webms because those are what's cool these days:

http://puu.sh/d1bEh/e3d82cd960.webm

http://puu.sh/d1aQO/23199a7f1e.webm

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Aacha

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Shirou is kinda fun in this adaption, not only for his bickering and clashing with Archer, but I really like how they emphasize that he's depending on Saber to make him a better fighter. It's good teamwork building if anything and considering how Kiritsugu treated Saber in the last war, you can tell Saber really appreciates being depended on.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
Caster owns. When most of the players are children, amateurs, and weaklings (and combinations thereof), you have a pseudo-master, who might lack raw power and established infrastructure, but has an actual battleplan.

I missed the rampant cheating of the last war.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Phobophilia posted:

I missed the rampant cheating of the last war.
You are going to look back on this post and laugh.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

So...after having watched episode 7 my curiosity for fate/zero finally piqued. Can I/should I start watching it now?

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Nah. If you're already this far into UBW I'd say save Zero when the show is over.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤

Grouchio posted:

So...after having watched episode 7 my curiosity for fate/zero finally piqued. Can I/should I start watching it now?
I would say yes, because Fate Zero is vastly the better show. Not that Staynight is bad or anything, but FZ is really really good.

I'm a bit frustrated by the admittedly-gorgeously animated fight scenes in this show. They're beautifully done, but they lack narrative weight.

It seems like every engagement is just swish-swish-fast jumpcuts, and the tactical aspect of gauging each others strengths isn't as much of a focus. Look at FZ's first battle between Saber and Lancer. They each had magical bullshit and mystery on their side, and each individual attack furthered what the audience knew about them as characters, and what they knew about each other. Ditto Kayneth and Kiritsugu. In contrast, the fights in Stay Night seems much less concrete, and don't convey as much information about the relative scale and powers of the various cast.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

...Why is my quote in gold??

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Grouchio posted:

...Why is my quote in gold??

you're special

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D

Squidster posted:

I would say yes, because Fate Zero is vastly the better show. Not that Staynight is bad or anything, but FZ is really really good.

I'm a bit frustrated by the admittedly-gorgeously animated fight scenes in this show. They're beautifully done, but they lack narrative weight.

It seems like every engagement is just swish-swish-fast jumpcuts, and the tactical aspect of gauging each others strengths isn't as much of a focus. Look at FZ's first battle between Saber and Lancer. They each had magical bullshit and mystery on their side, and each individual attack furthered what the audience knew about them as characters, and what they knew about each other. Ditto Kayneth and Kiritsugu. In contrast, the fights in Stay Night seems much less concrete, and don't convey as much information about the relative scale and powers of the various cast.

On the other hand, these fight scenes are way more memorable because I can only remember three actually good fights in F/Z.

And honestly, I'd wait to say F/Z is better until all of UBW is done.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Compendium posted:

On the other hand, these fight scenes are way more memorable because I can only remember three actually good fights in F/Z.

And honestly, I'd wait to say F/Z is better until all of UBW is done.

I still remember most of what happened in most of the fights in F/Z despite it being more than a year since I last watched it. While the fights in this show I don't remember anything about other than that they've happened, aside from some of the Berserker stuff. The fights are flashy and cool, but not particularly memorable so far.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib

Grouchio posted:

...Why is my quote in gold??

it happens when someone quotes you now, I think.

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

Phobophilia posted:

Caster owns. When most of the players are children, amateurs, and weaklings (and combinations thereof), you have a pseudo-master, who might lack raw power and established infrastructure, but has an actual battleplan.
Caster does own. From my memories of Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, she was the team's favorite character while it was being developed, so she gets a lot of love and a lot of amazing scenes.

rvm
May 6, 2013
The stakes haven't even been established yet. The UBW proper hasn't even begun yet. Unlike other routes and F/Z, UBW has a lot of fights with varying stakes and narrative weight. In my opinion, it never gets as good as F/Z or especially HF at their best, but it's consistently exciting. That's probably why ufotable chose to adapt it in the first place.

rvm fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Nov 23, 2014

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D

rvm posted:

The stakes haven't even been established yet. The UBW proper hasn't even begun yet. Unlike other routes and F/Z, UBW has a lot of fights with varying stakes and narrative weight. In my opinion, it never gets as good as F/Z or especially HF at their best, but it's consistently exciting. That's why ufotable chose to adapt it in the first place I think.

I think that's a pretty fair assessment. With F/Z I remember the characters and their motivations and what leads to poo poo going down as a result of their actions and not necessarily the action scenes itself.

UBW, I'm here to see poo poo blow up and a better adaption than Studio Deen. Two different needs met I guess!

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I didn't give a gently caress about character motivations in FZ because they all boiled down to "I'm only doing this thing for myself" with the exception of Kiritsugu and his hilariously blew up in his face. UBW is a cool story of character progression on multiple cool characters with cool fights and less Saber, thank god.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Beef Waifu posted:

I didn't give a gently caress about character motivations in FZ because they all boiled down to "I'm only doing this thing for myself" with the exception of Kiritsugu and his hilariously blew up in his face. UBW is a cool story of character progression on multiple cool characters with cool fights and less Saber, thank god.

i like saber

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

not really enough to argue about, i just wanted people to know

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
It's okay, Saber's grown on me because of UBW unlike F/Z oddly enough. :shobon:

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Cake Attack posted:

not really enough to argue about, i just wanted people to know

I'm not arguing about her

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I actually like her

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Blhue posted:

it happens when someone quotes you now, I think.
...But why me I wonder? Am I that special as an autistic otaku progressive?

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Grouchio posted:

...But why me I wonder? Am I that special as an autistic otaku progressive?

yes

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I like how they actually animated one of Nasu's "And then I was killed" fakeouts.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I love you, Cake Attack

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Beef Waifu posted:

I love you, Cake Attack
Cake Attack x Beer Waifu.

Best pornstar pairing ever.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Stop

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Beef Waifu posted:

I love you, Cake Attack

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Grouchio posted:

Cake Attack x Beer Waifu.

Best pornstar pairing ever.

:whitewater:

Stall_19
Jan 2, 2013

Prodigy of Victor von Doom
Poor Assassin. He's pretty much the result of the Holy Grail War equivalent of inbreeding.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

I don't think you can pity a guy who can produce an effect equivalent to a Noble Phantasm just by being really loving good with a sword

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Fleve
Nov 5, 2011

What the gently caress is wrong with these people. Why doesn't anyone just straight up murder an enemy anymore.

I miss the Fate/Zero Kiritsugu Emiya with his 'gently caress your magic' attitude and a propensity to get poo poo done.

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