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Cole posted:It's also hard to justify being passive when someone has a possibly deadly weapon, regardless of age. No it's not. Pre-teens are infinitely more likely to be playing around with a fake gun than coming at a police officer with a real one, with intent to kill. It's completely reasonable to expect a police officer to be aware of that fact before they blow someone to high hell.
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Xandu posted:In the meantime, via Everblight Wait so was she a supporter of Wilson?
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The Warszawa posted:"A husband and wife ... can't testify against each other." Can't be convicted of the same crime*
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euphronius posted:This much deliberation over an indictment does not make a conviction likely at all, if there is an indictment. I prefer to believe that someone "Twelve Angry Men"'d the jury.
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Jeff Roorda posted:The St. Louis Police Department is projecting it will spend three times the amount of money budgeted for overtime this fiscal year ending in July, according to Roorda. Since the shooting, the city has paid out $1 million in overtime pay, officials said. im gay posted:Wait so was she a supporter of Wilson?
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Xandu posted:In the meantime, via Everblight Scared white people are literal comedy.
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Everblight posted:Maybe if you didn't call it "battle readiness" you wouldn't be such loving monstrosities in the first place. Roorda was the guy who got kicked off the force for falsifying evidence, and is now a state rep. If Wilson doesn't get his gig with Fox News, running for office in South County would probably be a nice side-hustle.
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theflyingorc posted:I prefer to believe that someone "Twelve Angry Men"'d the jury. You should rewatch that movie if you think Wilson did it. Everblight posted:Maybe if you didn't call it "battle readiness" you wouldn't be such loving monstrosities in the first place. But really, can't we all agree to blame the protesters for not policing against violence enough? Who else could do it but them?
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So is there any reason at all to hope for an indictment at this point or should I start drinking in prep for the protests being met with insane force and it clearly being because of the minorities that happened?
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Trabisnikof posted:You should rewatch that movie if you think Wilson did it. Also, in defense of a minority.
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Xandu posted:In the meantime, via Everblight People shooting themselves with their own guns is easily the most hilarious thing in the world. It's even funnier if it happens at a gun show. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/26/1500431/for-the-sixth-time-in-one-week-man-shot-at-gun-show/ Just the height of comedy.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So is there any reason at all to hope for an indictment at this point or should I start drinking in prep for the protests being met with insane force and it clearly being because of the minorities that happened? Probably best to just start drinking. If the unlikely happens and they hand down an indictment, you can just call it celebratory drinking instead of coping.
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im gay posted:Wait so was she a supporter of Wilson? Everblight posted:Maybe if you didn't call it "battle readiness" you wouldn't be such loving monstrosities in the first place. Not the impression I get from the tweet in this article, if accurate: http://jezebel.com/woman-ready-for-ferguson-accidentally-kills-self-with-o-1662610675 Seems she was a protester.
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I'm still a little confused about that news link. Is it saying that when she waved the (loaded, chambered, unsafety'd) gun around that the person driving her (boyfriend) ducked and ran into someone, or that another driver freaked out and ran into them?
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quote:When asked about outside agitators, Isom said, "The people who come from outside will be clearly identifiable and we'll deal with those people as well." How does that even work?
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Crain posted:I'm still a little confused about that news link. Is it saying that when she waved the (loaded, chambered, unsafety'd) gun around that the person driving her (boyfriend) ducked and ran into someone, or that another driver freaked out and ran into them? She was waving it, he ducked and crashed the car they were driving, resulting in her taking one from her own gun to the head. lmbo
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Crain posted:I'm still a little confused about that news link. Is it saying that when she waved the (loaded, chambered, unsafety'd) gun around that the person driving her (boyfriend) ducked and ran into someone, or that another driver freaked out and ran into them? Her boyfriend ducked, hit someone, and she pulled the trigger during the accident and KOed herself. One of the twitter reporters covering the protests has a picture of her screaming at the police during the original protests, so she's apparently not one of the scared white people (although she is white). Edit: VVV Smith&Wesson M&P of some variety VVV CommanderApaul fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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That's a badass looking gun. What model is it
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CommanderApaul posted:Her boyfriend ducked, hit someone, and she pulled the trigger during the accident and KOed herself. Gotcha. quote:One of the twitter reporters covering the protests has a picture of her screaming at the police during the original protests, so she's apparently not one of the scared white people (although she is white). She's just a second order scared white person: She's scared of the scared white people scared of the angry black people.
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Darth123123 posted:How does that even work? They can setup checkpoints and only allow people with local IDs to pass for one. A sad side effect would be media couldn't get past the checkpoints, but safety is paramount.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:42
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Darth123123 posted:How does that even work? Non friendly reporters with cameras.
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Trabisnikof posted:They can setup checkpoints and only allow people with local IDs to pass for one. A sad side effect would be media couldn't get past the checkpoints, but safety is paramount. Last time I was up there the police were straight up turning everyone away regardless of ID
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CommanderApaul posted:Her boyfriend ducked, hit someone, and she pulled the trigger during the accident and KOed herself. One of the twitter reporters covering the protests has a picture of her screaming at the police during the original protests, so she's apparently not one of the scared white people (although she is white). Eh, there were pro-Wilson "protesters" also. Could be she was arguing with a cop because she got told to move back or some poo poo and was all "but I'm on your side" or whatever. It really isn't clear from what's been said so far. But it does sound like she was a scared white person no matter what side she was on.
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Update at 3:38 p.m. ET. Decision Reached, Will Be Announced: Edward Magee, of the St. Louis County office of the prosecuting attorney, has just sent a press release saying the grand jury has reached a decision in the case and “it will be announced later today.” http://npr.tumblr.com/post/103478860521/grand-jury-has-reached-decision-in-michael-brown-case
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ReidRansom posted:But it does sound like she was a scared white person no matter what side she was on. Is there really a need for this? It's funny how many racists here assumed she had to be bad because she was white though.
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ReidRansom posted:Eh, there were pro-Wilson "protesters" also. Could be she was arguing with a cop because she got told to move back or some poo poo and was all "but I'm on your side" or whatever. It really isn't clear from what's been said so far. But it does sound like she was a scared white person no matter what side she was on. I think, given the cop picture, that it's reasonable to assume until we get more information that she's on the pro-Brown side, though you are correct that there are other possbilities.
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tsa posted:Is there really a need for this? It's funny how many racists here assumed she had to be bad because she was white though. I can't be racist I have many white friends
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ReidRansom posted:Eh, there were pro-Wilson "protesters" also. Could be she was arguing with a cop because she got told to move back or some poo poo and was all "but I'm on your side" or whatever. It really isn't clear from what's been said so far. But it does sound like she was a scared white person no matter what side she was on.  I wonder if it was one of our KKK members.
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tsa posted:Is there really a need for this? It's funny how many racists here assumed she had to be bad because she was white though. Suspect that people who buy guns, and then operate them so poorly as to finish they own drat selves are pretty bad, regardless of what color. Of course, since you are vastly more likely to shoot yourself, or your family, with your under-the-pillow gun, than you are to shoot a fleet-footed sort making off with your flatscreen, then maybe that is a lot of gun owners. Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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tsa posted:Is there really a need for this? It's funny how many racists here assumed she had to be bad because she was white though. She was quoted as waving a gun around saying "We're ready for Ferguson!". I don't think you have to be Al Sharpton to read that and assume some things here. In addition to the fact that her stance on the matter isn't even settled.
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goatse.cx posted:That's a badass looking gun. What model is it Appears to be a Smith & Wesson M&P.
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theflyingorc posted:I think, given the cop picture, that it's reasonable to assume until we get more information that she's on the pro-Brown side, though you are correct that there are other possbilities. She bought the gun to defend herself against rioters. That's not really a pro-brown side thing. I think she is one of the counterprotestors.
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Slo-Tek posted:...then maybe that is a lot of gun owners. Gun owners think that she was loving retarded.
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Yawgmoft posted:How valid is that twitter post saying that the woman in the photo is the same woman that shot herself? Well, pretty valid if there is only one "Becca Campbell" in the STL metro.
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zen death robot posted:So school stuff in STL area tonight: This isn't weird, schools shut down for EVERYTHING even tangentially related to violence. A school local to me sent kids home early because of a police standoff with an armed bank robber that was a mile away. People are super paranoid about their kids, it has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.
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Whether she's pro Mike, or pro Darren, or whatever - it's just unfortunate that another person had to die before it's all said and done. I'm not going to really try and assume as to what her motives or intentions were. The thing that stands out to me in the story most is that it was a couple driving home, doing careless and very stupid things, and now there's a dead girl and a guy who basically will have to live with the fact that his sweetheart shot herself in the head when he understandably ducked/swerved and ended up in a collision. People need to straight up stop hating on each other. The less lives wrecked in this horrible, screwed up world the better, regardless of your skin color. Verdict will be out soon, and I'm really hoping people can keep from doing dumb things like the aforementioned. I just can't really laugh or poke fun at stories like this. I know I'm supposed to, I just don't think I make the best of goons. Hoping all the protestors stay safe and stay strong.
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Peven Stan posted:I can't be racist I have many white friends lmao
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