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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

SelenicMartian posted:

SR4 works around your near-invulnerability by filling the plot with escort missions. They are all poo poo, especially the final one.

Yeah. True dat. I really skipped past all the lovely extra busywork 'side mission' stuff and stuck to the main plot. It kept annoyance to an absolute minimum.

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CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
The one thing SR4 needed the most over 3 was the ability to toggle upgrades so that you don't permanently have infinite health or instakill guns or whatever once you buy it (or rather unlock it via the side mission) and for some reason they did not put that in.

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


SR3 is infinitely better. Is there a way to import all the clothes from 4 into 3? Since that's literally the only thing 4 does better.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Drunk Tomato posted:

That opening scene in SR4 with the boss ascending a nuclear missile that's flying through the air, all set to that Aerosmith song, while everyone says goodbye over the radio... It is beautiful and it cemented my love for the game.

Not long after that, you've got the Boss enthusiastically eating pancakes and doing a walking animation straight out of a 1930s cartoon :allears:

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.
SR4 owns, sorry scrublettes.

Krispy Kremepie
Mar 23, 2005

Inside......Me....
GTA V > SR3 > SR4

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
Both the games own.

The best part of SR3 was doing John Cena’s “You Can’t See Me!” with Killbane's mask and lighting people on fire. The best part of SR4 was collecting those data packets and climbing those towers and those sweet sci-fi weapon skins.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


i played about 10 minutes of SR3 on ps3 and then deleted it

thank you for listening to my saints row story

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


I want to play a classic dragon quest/final fantasy style jrpg that I haven't played before but I don't own any consoles. All the jrpgs I can find on steam are all ones I've seen before like FF8 and stuff. Anybody played any good jrpgs on PC lately?

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY
If you played and enjoyed the Saints Row games, you're okay.

If you played and didn't enjoy the Saints Row games, you're also okay.

Everyone's okay. :unsmith:

(Except if you're just a shitheel who wants to slapfight about subjective opinions. :ssh:)

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Divinity 2 is clearly superior as it has more amusing inanimate objects:


Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

Tezzeract posted:

Both the games own.

The best part of SR3 was doing John Cena’s “You Can’t See Me!” with Killbane's mask and lighting people on fire. The best part of SR4 was collecting those data packets and climbing those towers and those sweet sci-fi weapon skins.

I used the 'jerk off' gesture instead. Made me feel young again. Twelve, even.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Saints Row 4 is the Meet the Spartans of video games and instantly loses any comparison conversation unless you're comparing to games that are just outright broken, like Big Rigs or something.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

I couldn't bring myself to even beat Saints Row 4 because it's so repetitive and unsatisfying in nearly every aspect.
The world is just depressing cause it's dark all the time and the glitch effects are an eye sore.

They took away most of the aircraft, there's no boats anymore, no more cribs, same enemies over and over, and you're basically forced to do the incredibly lovely copy pasted side missions over and over to unlock fun stuff.

It's also a nigh endless grind to get your super powers to a fun level.

TastyLemonDrops
Aug 6, 2008

you said "drop kick" fyi
I'm planning on playing through all the games in my library in alphabetical order to the point where I either complete them or grow so tired of them that I SAM all the achievements and file it away in my NEVER AGAIN category. Games that I've already played partway through will be completely reset and I must start fresh. Multiplayer games don't count, though sandbox games might.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Tezzeract posted:

Both the games own.

The best part of SR3 was doing John Cena’s “You Can’t See Me!” with Killbane's mask and lighting people on fire. The best part of SR4 was collecting those data packets and climbing those towers and those sweet sci-fi weapon skins.
I think the best part of SR3 was when THAT music kicks in during the final mission.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


TastyLemonDrops posted:

I'm planning on playing through all the games in my library in alphabetical order to the point where I either complete them or grow so tired of them that I SAM all the achievements and file it away in my NEVER AGAIN category. Games that I've already played partway through will be completely reset and I must start fresh. Multiplayer games don't count, though sandbox games might.

godspeed on your epic quest gamer

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


TastyLemonDrops posted:

I'm planning on playing through all the games in my library in alphabetical order to the point where I either complete them or grow so tired of them that I SAM all the achievements and file it away in my NEVER AGAIN category. Games that I've already played partway through will be completely reset and I must start fresh. Multiplayer games don't count, though sandbox games might.

I plan on doing the same thing, but by Metacritic score. So many games in my library higher than 85 that I've never installed.

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



Ghostlight posted:

I think the best part of SR3 was when THAT music kicks in during the final mission.

I replay the intro missions every now and then just for singing in the car and the penthouse raid.

ImPureAwesome
Sep 6, 2007

the king of the beach

Drunk Tomato posted:

That opening scene in SR4 with the boss ascending a nuclear missile that's flying through the air, all set to that Aerosmith song, while everyone says goodbye over the radio... It is beautiful and it cemented my love for the game.

Best nuke flying through air scene is in JC2 sorry

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...

Ghostlight posted:

I think the best part of SR3 was when THAT music kicks in during the final mission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEdFTytAOfM

I need a HERO

JimmyT64
Oct 27, 2007
I'm Special!

I always felt that music put that part of the game in an odd place.

"Oh hey a moral choice, save my girl or go kill a dude, hmmmm..."
"I NEED A HERO"
"Guess I'm saving the girl, then. Thanks for the swift decision, music!"

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

God drat, Saints Row 3 was so good.
Why couldn't SR4 just be DLC that added super powers and more toys?

AlbertRayon
Sep 9, 2004

Hey, hey what can I do? I got a woman, she won't be true.

TastyLemonDrops posted:

I'm planning on playing through all the games in my library in alphabetical order to the point where I either complete them or grow so tired of them that I SAM all the achievements and file it away in my NEVER AGAIN category. Games that I've already played partway through will be completely reset and I must start fresh. Multiplayer games don't count, though sandbox games might.

I decided to try the same thing a few months ago, with the added stipulation that I write a review after I play every game, and I must play the ones that suck at least an hour. I made it most of the way through the A's before I started skipping around to games I had actually been meaning to play. It's actually pretty fun because you'll find a lot of games you like you picked up in some bundle and would have never played otherwise. It's also funny when you get comments from angry fans on your bad reviews for terrible games.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


AlbertRayon posted:

It's also funny when you get comments from angry fans on your bad reviews for terrible games.

the real steam endgame

Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011

Twenty-five dollars and a six pack to my name

Deakul posted:

God drat, Saints Row 3 was so good.

It really wasn't. It was a huge step back from SR2 in pretty much every department apart from the game engine.

Orv
May 4, 2011

AlbertRayon posted:

I decided to try the same thing a few months ago, with the added stipulation that I write a review after I play every game, and I must play the ones that suck at least an hour. I made it most of the way through the A's before I started skipping around to games I had actually been meaning to play. It's actually pretty fun because you'll find a lot of games you like you picked up in some bundle and would have never played otherwise. It's also funny when you get comments from angry fans on your bad reviews for terrible games.

Well clearly your "review" is full of vicious lies and needs to be flagged for removal.

Cough.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Terminally Bored posted:

It really wasn't. It was a huge step back from SR2 in pretty much every department apart from the game engine.

I've tried playing SR2 on the PC even with the Gentlemen of the Row mod and it's just horrible consolized badly ported poo poo.

I wish I could've tried it on its native platform since it does sound like it was a great game.

Sivek
Nov 12, 2012

Agent355 posted:

I want to play a classic dragon quest/final fantasy style jrpg that I haven't played before but I don't own any consoles. All the jrpgs I can find on steam are all ones I've seen before like FF8 and stuff. Anybody played any good jrpgs on PC lately?

Trails in the Sky, maybe? Or some stuff that's seems kind of stylistically similar to older JRPG's like this or that. Elimange Gothic is more of a dungeon-crawler but it's a relatively new release.

I liked the Zeboyd games well enough. There are a bunch of old Genesis RPG's in those Sega batch packs. I think Phantasy Star IV would still hold up well if you've never played it before.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Deakul posted:

God drat, Saints Row 3 was so good.
Why couldn't SR4 just be DLC that added super powers and more toys?
Well, it actually started out that way, but things happened between the THQ to Deep Silver handover.

Confusingly, the concept that was going to be DLC for SR3 pretty much turned into DLC for SR4.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I think it's possible for a game, especially an open world game, to be too polished. Most hilarity I've encountered in open world games has been due to weird poo poo that has happened due to the imperfections of the game.

Stuff like the pimps in Saints Row 2 starting a 30 person gang war when you smack one about a bit, or being hit by a crashing plane in San Andreas.

Once they go through things and start polishing it to a sheen like they tried to do in Saint's Row 3, it sort of loses a lot of the charm and weirdness that makes those kinds of games fun. GTA4 suffered from the same problem, in that the most fun thing most people ended up doing was launching themselves from that swingset because it was the only totally unscripted and unplanned element of the entire game. Everything else felt like it was purposefully designed to do what it was meant to do and any irregularities are based on the random nature deliberately put in.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

I thought Saints Row 3 was the second weakest Saints Row game, after the first one. It relied too much on "lol so wacky dildo sex reference hijinks xD" to cover up the fact that the game's plot was barebones, beloved characters from the previous game that did a complete personality change for no reason, killed off a fan favorite character from 1 and 2 to the point they had to retcon his death in Saints Row 4 due to the outcry, rather shallow gameplay that had bullet spongy enemies unless you tried to 100% the game and the new gimmicks the game introduced weren't terribly fun.

Saints Row 4 still has a lot of problems but they reeled back the dick joke toilet humor a lot, actually had a lot of references to the previous games in the series when 3 felt it existed in a vacuum, had a lot of fun powers to toy around with even if they did make vehicles obsolete and weren't terribly balanced, had a much more entertaining main villain and was overall just more fun to play.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Agent355 posted:

I want to play a classic dragon quest/final fantasy style jrpg that I haven't played before but I don't own any consoles. All the jrpgs I can find on steam are all ones I've seen before like FF8 and stuff. Anybody played any good jrpgs on PC lately?

It's not QUITE the same gameplay but it's still great and a JRPG. You want Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
If you enjoy SRPGs as well, then may i recommend a little gem called Agarest: Generations of War???

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Freak Futanari posted:

If you enjoy SRPGs as well, then may i recommend a little gem called Agarest: Generations of War???

No, you may not.

smenj
Oct 10, 2012

Agent355 posted:

I want to play a classic dragon quest/final fantasy style jrpg that I haven't played before but I don't own any consoles. All the jrpgs I can find on steam are all ones I've seen before like FF8 and stuff. Anybody played any good jrpgs on PC lately?

I can throw in another recommendation for Trails in the Sky. Great game, very heavy on the dialogue and world-building, if that's your thing. Plus, the sequel(/second half) ought to be coming out early 2015.

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


I did beat trails in the sky, waiting for the second half right now. Some of the other ones mentioned looked good. I've actually really really enjoyed some of the rpgmaker games but I think that might speak more about how much I want to play a good jrpg than the quality of the rpgmaker games.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Have you tried Last Remnant? It's weird (it's essentially a spiritual successor to SaGa Frontier) but scratched a very particular itch for me.

TastyLemonDrops
Aug 6, 2008

you said "drop kick" fyi

AlbertRayon posted:

I decided to try the same thing a few months ago, with the added stipulation that I write a review after I play every game, and I must play the ones that suck at least an hour. I made it most of the way through the A's before I started skipping around to games I had actually been meaning to play. It's actually pretty fun because you'll find a lot of games you like you picked up in some bundle and would have never played otherwise. It's also funny when you get comments from angry fans on your bad reviews for terrible games.

An excellent idea. I too, will review every game I play!

Some of the games in my library are already complete or in my NEVER AGAIN category, so with any luck, I will be done before 2015 is over.

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Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Mokinokaro posted:

Have you tried Last Remnant? It's weird (it's essentially a spiritual successor to SaGa Frontier) but scratched a very particular itch for me.

Looks p cool. I'm making a notepad of all the suggestions so I can pick em up when they either go on sale or I get bored. Currently I'm trying ot get through wasteland 2, which is fantastic, but makes me realize how much I like turn based content and collectable sidequests.

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