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Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

MF_James posted:

*edit* I am googling, but most things are video tutorials, I have found some pdf etcs but most stuff has been pretty terrible so far.

Just get a picture of a flaming skull with the words "I Hate You. I Hate You. I Hate You." on the bottom of it. OWA is kinda lovely, and expect a metric assload of pushback on it from more or less everyone.

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Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If a ticket isn't logged, how is management going to know that it's a problem that needs dealing with? If you offer the user a workaround and refuse to log the issue, it won't be possible for some manager to say "such and such has generated an average of x tickets per workday, which represents y time spent at $z cost" when justifying the software upgrade, overtime, or whatever else it takes to address the underlying issue.

Not sure where you are getting that I 'refused' to log the issue. User was being a bitch, she calls/has other people call for her about this issue a couple times a week, sometimes I hear from her more than once a day. She knows this is a known issue, she knows there's basically nothing I can do for her besides one 'fix'. She just complains to complain.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Just get a picture of a flaming skull with the words "I Hate You. I Hate You. I Hate You." on the bottom of it. OWA is kinda lovely, and expect a metric assload of pushback on it from more or less everyone.

There is literally no choice, I am just a lowly sys admin I do not make decisions, these decisions come down from on high and they want to "Enjoy the CloudButt" as much as possible. This is happening no matter what, it's already been piloted at 5 locations or so, I need to come up with training info for when we go-live with the other 2000+ locations.

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

MF_James posted:

training document that highlights the differences between an actual outlook client that we use now and OWA
The version of OWA is rather important here. I actually really like OWA'13, but the further and further back you go in versions, the bigger and more wide-ranging the differences will be.

canis minor
May 4, 2011

stevewm posted:

A completely unreadable fax came in!

There appears to be about 5 header lines at the top. So I believe I just received a fax, of a fax, of a fax, of a fax, of a fax! It may have possibly been printed out and then faxed again at some point. Its nothing but a page full of black specks.

This is how reply works - I see no problem here.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

nexxai posted:

The version of OWA is rather important here. I actually really like OWA'13, but the further and further back you go in versions, the bigger and more wide-ranging the differences will be.

Ugh there's different versions? I thought the point of O365 stuff is that everyone uses the same poo poo.

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

MF_James posted:

Ugh there's different versions? I thought the point of O365 stuff is that everyone uses the same poo poo.

No, Office 365 is all OWA'13, but you didn't specify where it was being hosted.

Anyways, I don't mind it nearly as much as some other people here apparently do, but there are definitely some key differences.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

nexxai posted:

No, Office 365 is all OWA'13, but you didn't specify where it was being hosted.

Anyways, I don't mind it nearly as much as some other people here apparently do, but there are definitely some key differences.

I have been given zero information, I have not been a part of this project until I was told to do a small training document highlighting key differences. I just found one of our pilot sites and logged in, thank goodness they had their OWA open, appears to mimic 2003/2007, at least it looks drat similar to the outlook client I use.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Sirotan posted:

Not sure where you are getting that I 'refused' to log the issue. User was being a bitch, she calls/has other people call for her about this issue a couple times a week, sometimes I hear from her more than once a day. She knows this is a known issue, she knows there's basically nothing I can do for her besides one 'fix'. She just complains to complain.

I don't know the user's background or personality, but from your original post it simply sounded like the user - politely - wasn't interested in troubleshooting a known issue and just wanted you to take down the fact that she was having an issue. I don't know how you guys do things exactly, but in most organizations if management is looking at ticket stats, it may trigger more of a response if an issue is generating repeated tickets, tickets from multiple users, etc. To her, "I can't do anything for you" probably sounds more like "IT isn't willing to allocate the resources needed to properly resolve this issue unless I make some more noise about it".

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Nov 25, 2014

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo
I know a few pages back people were mentioning Slack as an easy communications platform. Turns out that they're now offering an option for companies pay for additional features such as accessing private or secret data, including conversations marked private or marked for deletion.

I know it's not too surprising, but it is a reminder that there's no privacy with hosted solutions (or in-house ones).

m.hache
Dec 1, 2004


Fun Shoe

FreshFeesh posted:

I know a few pages back people were mentioning Slack as an easy communications platform. Turns out that they're now offering an option for companies pay for additional features such as accessing private or secret data, including conversations marked private or marked for deletion.

I know it's not too surprising, but it is a reminder that there's no privacy with hosted solutions (or in-house ones).

Well as lovely as that is it should be assumed that anything done on a work computer or using company resources belongs to the company.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

m.hache posted:

Well as lovely as that is it should be assumed that anything done on a work computer or using company resources belongs to the company.

This, so much. Always assume that anything you do on a company computer or cell phone can and will be seen by your boss, your boss's boss, and HR.

I won't set up an Active-Sync connection on my personal phone to my work email because I will not give that level of access to anyone else.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
That's fine, my coworkers post enough dumb poo poo in the public slack channels that this wont matter.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

stevewm posted:

A completely unreadable fax came in!

There appears to be about 5 header lines at the top. So I believe I just received a fax, of a fax, of a fax, of a fax, of a fax! It may have possibly been printed out and then faxed again at some point. Its nothing but a page full of black specks.

It's a chain fax. If you don't fax it to 10 people in 10 minutes, you will have bad luck and paper jams for a year.

dox
Mar 4, 2006

Gerdalti posted:

Microsoft needs to get their poo poo together with Skype and Lync. Lync 2013 is awful, and Skype drives me crazy.

I install Skype on our computers via GPO as some of our users need it for international business stuff. Did you know that you can not tell Skype to not launch at startup until you've actually signed in? You have to create an account first. Now that GPO comes with a registry hack to remove it from run. That's unacceptable.

Use an .mst on deployment to disable autologin without having to sign in. I had to tussle with this a few months ago. I can post the mst if you'd like- I just have to do dig it up.

Gerdalti
May 24, 2003

SPOON!

dox posted:

Use an .mst on deployment to disable autologin without having to sign in. I had to tussle with this a few months ago. I can post the mst if you'd like- I just have to do dig it up.

Nah, my reghack works fine, good point about mst's though. I hadn't gotten the hang of Orca when I first setup skype.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Wizard of the Deep posted:

I won't set up an Active-Sync connection on my personal phone to my work email because I will not give that level of access to anyone else.

What about an app like Nine?

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
I

DrBouvenstein posted:

What about an app like Nine?

I paid for Touchdown, but it can only handle one Exchange account at a time, so I think I may also buy Nine since I guess it can do more than one?

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

nexxai posted:

No, Office 365 is all OWA'13, but you didn't specify where it was being hosted.

Anyways, I don't mind it nearly as much as some other people here apparently do, but there are definitely some key differences.
We're on OWA '10, and it's fine for reading emails but sending them is a pain in the rear end. You have to manually look up each user in the address book or type their full address because there's no history or autocompletion in the To: bar. Is that any better in '13?

Still '10 is way better than the '03 version we used up until a few years ago.

CharlieWhiskey posted:

It's a chain fax. If you don't fax it to 10 people in 10 minutes, you will have bad luck and paper jams for a year.
You just made me want to start faxing Money Face to people.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Inspector_666 posted:

I


I paid for Touchdown, but it can only handle one Exchange account at a time, so I think I may also buy Nine since I guess it can do more than one?

It can, but I never used two accounts enough to say how elegant it handles them.

But Nine is just so much better than Touchdown anyway, so you should try it out.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
The second account would just be the company alerts account for my on-call shifts, so I really just need to know a message came in.

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010

Entropic posted:

I'm guessing porn. It's always porn.

nah I had one a few years ago when I found a copy of Cain & Abel on someones PC. He struggled to justify that one, given he was a nurse.

The Electronaut
May 10, 2009

Knormal posted:

We're on OWA '10, and it's fine for reading emails but sending them is a pain in the rear end. You have to manually look up each user in the address book or type their full address because there's no history or autocompletion in the To: bar. Is that any better in '13?

Still '10 is way better than the '03 version we used up until a few years ago.

You just made me want to start faxing Money Face to people.

Ctrl-k works in Owa 2010 if I remember correctly.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

DrBouvenstein posted:

What about an app like Nine?

Nine will handle this extremely well. I've been using that for a year and it is by leaps and bounds an improvement from touchdown and will separate email notifications by folder/subfolder.

notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Nov 25, 2014

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


We still have a number of legacy dial up and DSL customers, and they are mailing in tickets that they cannot get to Craigslist. No current lookup against any of our DNS servers returns incorrect information, and people are swearing that they have flushed their cache and are still unable to reach the site.

:sigh:

you ate my cat
Jul 1, 2007

kensei posted:

We still have a number of legacy dial up and DSL customers, and they are mailing in tickets that they cannot get to Craigslist. No current lookup against any of our DNS servers returns incorrect information, and people are swearing that they have flushed their cache and are still unable to reach the site.

:sigh:

Do what my company does - Declare it an issue with the customer's computer and then stick your fingers in your ears.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

DrBouvenstein posted:

What about an app like Nine?

I use Windows Phone :v:

My company uses Lotus Domino/Notes :suicide:

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

kensei posted:

We still have a number of legacy dial up and DSL customers, and they are mailing in tickets that they cannot get to Craigslist. No current lookup against any of our DNS servers returns incorrect information, and people are swearing that they have flushed their cache and are still unable to reach the site.

:sigh:
Walk a few of them through a traceroute to see if they're actually getting the wrong DNS entries (compare their entries to a known good one) or if there's some other problem.

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

you ate my cat posted:

Do what my company does - Declare it an issue with the customer's computer and then stick your fingers in your ears.

What's it like working for Comcast?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

kensei posted:

We still have a number of legacy dial up and DSL customers, and they are mailing in tickets that they cannot get to Craigslist. No current lookup against any of our DNS servers returns incorrect information, and people are swearing that they have flushed their cache and are still unable to reach the site.

:sigh:
You didn't hear? http://blog.craigslist.org/2014/11/24/craigslist-dns-outage/

you ate my cat
Jul 1, 2007

Malek posted:

What's it like working for Comcast?

Hahaha haven't worked at Comcast for a few years now, but just because I'm working for a competitor doesn't mean they don't do the same poo poo.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

The Electronaut posted:

Ctrl-k works in Owa 2010 if I remember correctly.
I went back and checked and now and apparently it does, and it also seems to remember recent recipients. I guess I just remembered wrong, I don't use it much. Or maybe those functions didn't work in older versions of Firefox.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!



No, I did. They are asking us to flush our DNS, and our records are all fine. Thankfully, I am not on the phones or answering tickets, but I sympathize with the guys who are.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

kensei posted:

No, I did. They are asking us to flush our DNS, and our records are all fine. Thankfully, I am not on the phones or answering tickets, but I sympathize with the guys who are.

Have them reset their router. A few models keep their own DNS tables, and act as the first line for when a computer behind them sends out a query. Had to deal with crazy stuff dealing with that when I did tech support for Verizon.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




:yotj:

I… I think I ended up in a pod. The only reason I'm not sure I'm in a pod is the pay is sub-par. I have apparently become a Mac hardware tech on my way to certs. This is arguably a step down for me, but it pays the bills. We are expected to handle 3-5 tickets a day on the average, manage our own time, deskside visits, and work in general. I am tracked to replace their previous Mac hardware expert who is being moved to another group. I'll spend my first week or so shadowing folks, learning serialization on EFI-boot PCI, printer repair, and getting up to speed on the last 3 years of Apple hardware. The user customer community is cheerful and happy because the 10-12 thousand people on campus are in a growing, successful environment (unlike the week I spent at a recently acquired and completely doomed company).

The cafeterias on-campus are good and cheap. I'm in the loving matrix, aren't I ?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


mllaneza posted:

printer repair

mllaneza posted:

I'm in the loving matrix, aren't I ?

Nope

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






The dot-matrix perhaps! :downsrim:

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

you ate my cat posted:

Do what my company does - Declare it an issue with the customer's computer and then stick your fingers in your ears.

This is pretty much what I am told to do the moment a student walks up to the desk and shows me his ubuntu laptop. There's currently a huge infight between IT and departments running linux despite IT not wanting them to and I get the refugees at my desk.

Of course, then it turns out that it's all flavors of Ubuntu, Chrome OS and Android having the same problem and then I get to escalate the ticket.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




spankmeister posted:

The dot-matrix perhaps! :downsrim:

It's entirely likely I'll end up as the new all-Mac guy so… maybe not !

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DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

IndustrialApe posted:

This is pretty much what I am told to do the moment a student walks up to the desk and shows me his ubuntu laptop. There's currently a huge infight between IT and departments running linux despite IT not wanting them to and I get the refugees at my desk.

Of course, then it turns out that it's all flavors of Ubuntu, Chrome OS and Android having the same problem and then I get to escalate the ticket.

Turns out this is an EduRoam/AP bug and they are now looking into it as it is now a problem for the whole university.

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