unlimited shrimp posted:

is anyone openly advocating for rioting or is it more like, "I understand why it's happening and I can't really condemn it."

GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

I don't really think that follows.

tsa posted:

"Nonviolence is a powerful and just weapon. which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals."

zen death robot posted:

http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming/

bad day posted:

Sadly there's not a single real-world case where nonviolent protests accomplished anything of note. No, not Ghandi, not MLK - if anything the assassination of MLK and subsequent race riots were what brought about civil rights legislation. Anti war protests from the 60's-00's had no impact whatsoever on US foreign policy.

bad day posted:

Sadly there's not a single real-world case where nonviolent protests accomplished anything of note. No, not Ghandi, not MLK - if anything the assassination of MLK and subsequent race riots were what brought about civil rights legislation. Anti war protests from the 60's-00's had no impact whatsoever on US foreign policy.

Nowadays it's even easier to marginalize protestors - unless the American people are actually willing to fight the government to regain their rights, nothing will change. And all the white liberals have been brainwashed by this idea that awareness=change so it's not like they're ever going to fix this situation. Anybody that creates any movement of note is hobbled by this fallacious philosophy that protests shouldn't inconvenience normal people when that's the whole point of protest.

So until people actually start fighting the police and burning down their police stations, nothing will ever change. And by this I mean nothing will ever change. America is hosed. This is the government you deserve.

England Sucks posted:

I don't think anything positive is going to occur until the African American community wakes up and realizes they are living in a defacto apartheid state and that for all they want to protest and set things on fire and wreck things, or stand around and block roads or hold up their hands, nothing will ever be achieved.

What do we know from South Africa? Apartheid was stopped not by massive peaceful protests but the piercing intelligence of a few individuals. Terrorism was the greatest tool of the anti-apartheid forces at work in South Africa and continues to be the greatest tool anyone in America can use to make their point and voices heard.

You can create a bunch of protests across each city but those can be targeted. Ignored. Their messages changes and switched. Your mindset must be bigger. The way you function must make it impossible for your message to be misinterpreted. You must strike fear into the hearts of anyone who would even think of misinterpreting it or twisting it. This is why serial murderers are so effective in getting their messages out their. The simple power of fear. Something the white majority is quite capable of.

When you destroy a bunch of poo poo in a black neighborhood you're really not creating fear. Many of the individuals who are being persecuted in these black communities are extremely poor, and overall the are impoverished. But they are not completely without resources. You have large drug trade organizations working throughout these communities. Structures and networks that can be exploited to fund anything you desire.

Take the model of the FARC in Colombia. A communist terrorist organization running amuck in the steep hills of Colombia. Completely untraceable. Guerilla warfare and terrorism is their main method of action. And due to the threat they place on the life of many individuals their message is certainly not misinterpreted, as unpopular as it may be.

Any solution to the current apartheid states that feature as the center of our african-american communities in America should involve something theoretically similar. A army funded by the control of the drug trade within these communities, who use these funds to wage terror on those who have failed to protect them and give them the simple rights they deserve. The Media and the government. Hidden amongst the ruins of our rotting american cities and ghettos.

And while the FBI or CIA may be able to take down a group of ten, or twenty, or thirty well armed terrorists who have been forced to come from overseas and acclimate to our culture to be able to hide and carry out their work. Here you could easily have hundreds of them locally grown and trained and there'd be no hope for the government but to give in to their demands.

RavenKrows posted:

Got a hot news flash for you, the police don't write the laws. Burning down their police stations is a good way to end up dead. Just like attacking them is a good way to end up dead.

quote:

Wesley Lowery ‏@WesleyLowery 2m2 minutes ago
At least three more arrested outside Ferguson PD. More targeted snatches. Letting bulk of (largely peaceful) crowd do as they please

I Dont Like You posted:

Or selling cigarettes on the sidewalk.

DeathChicken posted:

King didn't really advocate peaceful protest so much as he advocated peaceful antagonism until the jails were choked with meaningless arrests and crazed police action was on every broadcast. Nowadays you try that and the crazed police action will get like ten minutes of coverage before the news goes back to talking about Kim Kardashian's rear end.

unlimited shrimp posted:

Um, you're forgetting our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

England Sucks posted:

I don't think anything positive is going to occur until the African American community wakes up and realizes they are living in a defacto apartheid state and that for all they want to protest and set things on fire and wreck things, or stand around and block roads or hold up their hands, nothing will ever be achieved.

What do we know from South Africa? Apartheid was stopped not by massive peaceful protests but the piercing intelligence of a few individuals. Terrorism was the greatest tool of the anti-apartheid forces at work in South Africa and continues to be the greatest tool anyone in America can use to make their point and voices heard.

You can create a bunch of protests across each city but those can be targeted. Ignored. Their messages changes and switched. Your mindset must be bigger. The way you function must make it impossible for your message to be misinterpreted. You must strike fear into the hearts of anyone who would even think of misinterpreting it or twisting it. This is why serial murderers are so effective in getting their messages out their. The simple power of fear. Something the white majority is quite capable of.

When you destroy a bunch of poo poo in a black neighborhood you're really not creating fear. Many of the individuals who are being persecuted in these black communities are extremely poor, and overall the are impoverished. But they are not completely without resources. You have large drug trade organizations working throughout these communities. Structures and networks that can be exploited to fund anything you desire.

Take the model of the FARC in Colombia. A communist terrorist organization running amuck in the steep hills of Colombia. Completely untraceable. Guerilla warfare and terrorism is their main method of action. And due to the threat they place on the life of many individuals their message is certainly not misinterpreted, as unpopular as it may be.

Any solution to the current apartheid states that feature as the center of our african-american communities in America should involve something theoretically similar. A army funded by the control of the drug trade within these communities, who use these funds to wage terror on those who have failed to protect them and give them the simple rights they deserve. The Media and the government. Hidden amongst the ruins of our rotting american cities and ghettos.

And while the FBI or CIA may be able to take down a group of ten, or twenty, or thirty well armed terrorists who have been forced to come from overseas and acclimate to our culture to be able to hide and carry out their work. Here you could easily have hundreds of them locally grown and trained and there'd be no hope for the government but to give in to their demands.

bad day posted:

Sadly there's not a single real-world case where nonviolent protests accomplished anything of note. No, not Ghandi, not MLK - if anything the assassination of MLK and subsequent race riots were what brought about civil rights legislation. Anti war protests from the 60's-00's had no impact whatsoever on US foreign policy.

Ytlaya posted:

The closest thing to non-violence that actually has any measurable impact is doing illegal non-violent things, like illegally occupying buildings or blocking streets, though I'm sure even that would be condemned by your average white liberal/moderate.

Foma posted:

You think what people are doing now is going to have a positive effect? I don't I think the protesters are making giant strides backwards. It is now going to be harder to change things for the better.

Yes, I believe in democracy, I think the system we have going for it is good and solid, I think a lot of the problems we have are do to people not participating in those systems and being disenfranchised. I think constant cynicism is self hobbling.

bad day posted:

Sadly there's not a single real-world case where nonviolent protests accomplished anything of note. No, not Ghandi, not MLK - if anything the assassination of MLK and subsequent race riots were what brought about civil rights legislation. Anti war protests from the 60's-00's had no impact whatsoever on US foreign policy.

RavenKrows posted:

Got a hot news flash for you, the police don't write the laws. Burning down their police stations is a good way to end up dead. Just like attacking them is a good way to end up dead.

England Sucks posted:

I don't think anything positive is going to occur until the African American community wakes up and realizes they are living in a defacto apartheid state and that for all they want to protest and set things on fire and wreck things, or stand around and block roads or hold up their hands, nothing will ever be achieved.

What do we know from South Africa? Apartheid was stopped not by massive peaceful protests but the piercing intelligence of a few individuals. Terrorism was the greatest tool of the anti-apartheid forces at work in South Africa and continues to be the greatest tool anyone in America can use to make their point and voices heard.

You can create a bunch of protests across each city but those can be targeted. Ignored. Their messages changes and switched. Your mindset must be bigger. The way you function must make it impossible for your message to be misinterpreted. You must strike fear into the hearts of anyone who would even think of misinterpreting it or twisting it. This is why serial murderers are so effective in getting their messages out their. The simple power of fear. Something the white majority is quite capable of.

When you destroy a bunch of poo poo in a black neighborhood you're really not creating fear. Many of the individuals who are being persecuted in these black communities are extremely poor, and overall the are impoverished. But they are not completely without resources. You have large drug trade organizations working throughout these communities. Structures and networks that can be exploited to fund anything you desire.

Take the model of the FARC in Colombia. A communist terrorist organization running amuck in the steep hills of Colombia. Completely untraceable. Guerilla warfare and terrorism is their main method of action. And due to the threat they place on the life of many individuals their message is certainly not misinterpreted, as unpopular as it may be.

Any solution to the current apartheid states that feature as the center of our african-american communities in America should involve something theoretically similar. A army funded by the control of the drug trade within these communities, who use these funds to wage terror on those who have failed to protect them and give them the simple rights they deserve. The Media and the government. Hidden amongst the ruins of our rotting american cities and ghettos.

And while the FBI or CIA may be able to take down a group of ten, or twenty, or thirty well armed terrorists who have been forced to come from overseas and acclimate to our culture to be able to hide and carry out their work. Here you could easily have hundreds of them locally grown and trained and there'd be no hope for the government but to give in to their demands.

paranoid randroid posted:

Please do not try to finance a revolution with drug trafficking money, everyone.

The Ender posted:

Okay - so if MLK's methods were so convincing, why did James Earl Ray decide to shoot him? Shouldn't MLK's words have soothed his trigger finger to sleep, so to speak?

GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

That's a standard you're never, ever, ever going to reach no matter what methods you use.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

The Ender posted:

Which was my point.

The Ender posted:

Which was my point.

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Z's back up

http://www.ustream.tv/z

Pomp posted:

My grandmother has told me stories about her parents cheering and celebrating when they found out MLK got murdered.

England Sucks posted:

lf.txt

England Sucks posted:

I don't think anything positive is going to occur until the African American community wakes up and realizes they are living in a defacto apartheid state and that for all they want to protest and set things on fire and wreck things, or stand around and block roads or hold up their hands, nothing will ever be achieved.

What do we know from South Africa? Apartheid was stopped not by massive peaceful protests but the piercing intelligence of a few individuals. Terrorism was the greatest tool of the anti-apartheid forces at work in South Africa and continues to be the greatest tool anyone in America can use to make their point and voices heard.

You can create a bunch of protests across each city but those can be targeted. Ignored. Their messages changes and switched. Your mindset must be bigger. The way you function must make it impossible for your message to be misinterpreted. You must strike fear into the hearts of anyone who would even think of misinterpreting it or twisting it. This is why serial murderers are so effective in getting their messages out their. The simple power of fear. Something the white majority is quite capable of.

When you destroy a bunch of poo poo in a black neighborhood you're really not creating fear. Many of the individuals who are being persecuted in these black communities are extremely poor, and overall the are impoverished. But they are not completely without resources. You have large drug trade organizations working throughout these communities. Structures and networks that can be exploited to fund anything you desire.

Take the model of the FARC in Colombia. A communist terrorist organization running amuck in the steep hills of Colombia. Completely untraceable. Guerilla warfare and terrorism is their main method of action. And due to the threat they place on the life of many individuals their message is certainly not misinterpreted, as unpopular as it may be.

Any solution to the current apartheid states that feature as the center of our african-american communities in America should involve something theoretically similar. A army funded by the control of the drug trade within these communities, who use these funds to wage terror on those who have failed to protect them and give them the simple rights they deserve. The Media and the government. Hidden amongst the ruins of our rotting american cities and ghettos.

And while the FBI or CIA may be able to take down a group of ten, or twenty, or thirty well armed terrorists who have been forced to come from overseas and acclimate to our culture to be able to hide and carry out their work. Here you could easily have hundreds of them locally grown and trained and there'd be no hope for the government but to give in to their demands.

SedanChair posted:

"Crip ISIS," capital idea there bud

Job Truniht posted:

This owns.

Keg posted:

I can't keep this up because I have decided only to use my trolling for good, so I have to admit that post is a c/p of the ravings of a lunatic with severe anxiety and agoraphobia who gets welfare because of it and lives in subsidized housing south of Market St in San Francisco.