terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

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hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

just looked it up, vs2013 supports none of the string changes

I guess that's because strings are completely hosed in windows

# ? Nov 26, 2014 04:26

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# ? May 25, 2024 11:59

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

may i suggest swift

# ? Nov 26, 2014 05:34

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

code:

#define JAVASCRIPT_HEADER                                                     \
    "<script type='text/javascript' language='JavaScript'><!--\n"
#define JAVASCRIPT_FOOTER                                                     \
    "//--></script>\n"

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# ? Nov 26, 2014 05:37

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

that makes the javascript runs faster

# ? Nov 26, 2014 05:39

pseudorandom name: May 6, 2007

hobbesmaster posted:

lol at writing c++ and expecting ABI compatibility between compiler versions

or in the case of OS X, stdlibs

I just like bringing it up to remind people that C++ is a toy language for idiots

# ? Nov 26, 2014 06:36

BONGHITZ: Jan 1, 1970

pseudorandom name posted:

I just like bringing it up to remind people that C++ is a toy language for idiots

what is a working mans language for a working man?

# ? Nov 26, 2014 07:08

Series DD Funding: Nov 25, 2014; by exmarx

# ? Nov 26, 2014 07:10

Marsol0: Jun 6, 2004; No avatar. I just saved you some load time. You're welcome.

Series DD Funding posted:

go

where?

# ? Nov 26, 2014 07:15

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

hahahahahahahahaha

because if we learned one thing from JavaScript, it's that languages with weird interpretations of OOP are the future

NewtonScript was Pascal-flavored JavaScript before JavaScript existed, and precisely as many people used it as you'd expect, because prototype-based inheritance sounds cool in a journal paper but in the real world everyone expects classes

# ? Nov 26, 2014 11:04

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

(eh, most dynamic languages expose some prototypical behaviour)

# ? Nov 26, 2014 11:41

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

BONGHITZ posted:

what is a working mans language for a working man?

Java.

It may the the COBOL this side of the millennium, it isn't as trendy as anything else running on the JVM, but it will still be there when theye got out of fashion. There is a lot of code written that needs maintenance, and plenty of new middleware business workflow adaptors to make.

# ? Nov 26, 2014 11:43

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

eschaton posted:

hahahahahahahahaha

because if we learned one thing from JavaScript, it's that languages with weird interpretations of OOP are the future

NewtonScript was Pascal-flavored JavaScript before JavaScript existed, and precisely as many people used it as you'd expect, because prototype-based inheritance sounds cool in a journal paper but in the real world everyone expects classes

golang has a weird interpretation of oop? years ago one argument that was made to me was that golang is the new language that will supply the oop needs for the future and since then I just assumed it was kinda like c++

# ? Nov 26, 2014 16:42

Janitor Prime: Jan 22, 2004; PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean; Fun Shoe

tef posted:

Java.

It may the the COBOL this side of the millennium, it isn't as trendy as anything else running on the JVM, but it will still be there when theye got out of fashion. There is a lot of code written that needs maintenance, and plenty of new middleware business workflow adaptors to make.

Sometimes I feel sad that I really only know Java, but then I remember poo poo like Strings aren't even a thing in C++ and cheer up.

# ? Nov 26, 2014 17:26

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

Symbolic Butt posted:

golang has a weird interpretation of oop? years ago one argument that was made to me was that golang is the new language that will supply the oop needs for the future and since then I just assumed it was kinda like c++

kinda like in the sense that they're both compiled? sure.

# ? Nov 26, 2014 17:35

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

Series DD Funding posted:

go

no generics, not worth bothering with

# ? Nov 26, 2014 17:39

Plastic Snake: Mar 2, 2005; For Halloween or scaring people.

rust is the light

# ? Nov 26, 2014 18:35

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

rust si god awful

# ? Nov 26, 2014 18:37

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

# ? Nov 26, 2014 18:37

Seaside Loafer: Feb 7, 2012; Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

c# java and python, go forth and earn unless you are one of those gay web developers

# ? Nov 26, 2014 18:50

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

terrible programmer opinion: scala is real rough and somehow manages to have worse tools than clojure (clojure owns). gonna stop caring about scala

# ? Nov 26, 2014 19:04

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

also i haven't written any erlang in like 6 months but all the erlang code i wrote is still running real well

# ? Nov 26, 2014 19:05

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

Symbolic Butt posted:

golang has a weird interpretation of oop? years ago one argument that was made to me was that golang is the new language that will supply the oop needs for the future and since then I just assumed it was kinda like c++

it only has interfaces, not classes, and also has no inheritance.

(also no generics, but we've gotten by just fine without them for 40 years in Smalltalk and 25 in ObjC.)

# ? Nov 26, 2014 20:16

Arcsech: Aug 5, 2008

Soricidus posted:

ocaml type signatures are the only ones that get things the right way round. 'string list' makes much more sense than 'list string', unless you're reading this in your browser chrome on your laptop bookmac apple

nice anglocentrism

# ? Nov 26, 2014 21:19

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

eschaton posted:

it only has interfaces, not classes, and also has no inheritance.

(also no generics, but we've gotten by just fine without them for 40 years in Smalltalk and 25 in ObjC.)

do people actually use smalltalk for anything

# ? Nov 26, 2014 21:25

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

they use it to socialize

# ? Nov 26, 2014 21:29

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

fritz posted:

do people actually use smalltalk for anything

in the darkest corners of my companies code you can still find java classes whose only documentation is

code:

/**
 * This type was generated by VAGen from VisualAge Smalltalk.
 */

# ? Nov 26, 2014 21:34

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

hobbesmaster posted:

nice anglocentrism

ocaml syntax was invented by the french, it's hardly anglocentric to approve of it

# ? Nov 26, 2014 21:47

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

scala is very nice
clojure is ok unless i have to interoperate with java

sbt is loving horrible
lein is almost as bad

i guess we're doing different things because my experience re: java interop was the exact opposite

i dont think i ever called clojure from java though

# ? Nov 26, 2014 21:48

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Seaside Loafer posted:

c# java and python, go forth and earn unless you are one of those gay web developers

# ? Nov 26, 2014 22:02

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

decommissioned a long running server today

it was like one of those tv shows where the main character turns out the lights one last time except right click > terminate

<3 u aws

# ? Nov 26, 2014 22:03

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Product is a cloud based accounts receivable system for processing loan payments. Recently upgraded from an existing client/server VB4/Access solution.

# ? Nov 26, 2014 22:09

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Blinkz0rz posted:

decommissioned a long running server today

it was like one of those tv shows where the main character turns out the lights one last time except right click > terminate

<3 u aws

at my last job i literally had servers older than aws, the service

# ? Nov 26, 2014 23:37

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

at my last job i literally had servers older than aws, the service

well yeah that's not uncommon. here we've only been maintaining infrastructure for the past couple of years.

our it department proper has servers that have been running in some shape or form since at least 2004.

# ? Nov 27, 2014 00:51

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# ? May 25, 2024 11:59

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Blinkz0rz posted:

well yeah that's not uncommon. here we've only been maintaining infrastructure for the past couple of years.

our it department proper has servers that have been running in some shape or form since at least 2004.

i meant individual pieces of hardware

if you just count OS installs that have been moved between hardware devices over the years, i've seen services from the 1970s still in use this decade

# ? Nov 27, 2014 01:29

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