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willjbish
Nov 8, 2011

BaconPigbutt posted:

I just arrived in Orzammar in my DA:O run and it made me remember how much I love dwarfs. Is there no dwarvish locations at all in DA:I? If so, it`s a drat shame.

After 60 hours I'm starting to think Bioware is trolling me with this deeproads stuff. I always find myself in a cave/ruin/whatever full of notes about a deeproads entrance and the darkspawn must be stopped! Only to find rocks are in the way or you can't open the door or it's been sealed off.

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Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
Man, I just made Varric completely hate himself with one decision. These choices are harsh.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

Rincewind posted:

Is there much dwarf-specific content? In terms of conversations and stuff, I know there's plenty of old taigs and dwarven ruins to explore out there. I love dwarves, my warden was a dwarf, and I'm thinking of going dwarf for my second game, but the elven inquisitor was just so fitting to the story I'm worried about the dwarves just feeling tacked on.

I had a lot of fun playing my dwarven inquisitor but I definitely think there was bit less content for them than the elves. Which makes sense, you meet a poo poo ton of elves in the game but only 2 major dwarves and I don't even think there was any opportunity to have a dwarf chat with Varric.

Still worth it to have all npcs look down on you in cutscenes and the Warden-Commander Aeducan sending you a letter where he tells you to remember the stone.

e; I was honestly really disappointed in the lack of dwarves in the game, I was hoping that we'd get to see Kal-Sharok :(

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Cometa Rossa posted:

Basically everyone owns except for Vivienne and Sera.

I don't mind Sera but I'm glad someone else finally said Vivienne isn't the best thing since grilled cheese. She's boring at best.

Cassandra gets way more interesting as you advance the plot and she starts letting her guard down.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

precision posted:

I don't mind Sera but I'm glad someone else finally said Vivienne isn't the best thing since grilled cheese. She's boring at best.

Cassandra gets way more interesting as you advance the plot and she starts letting her guard down.

Strange, I find that at higher level Cassandra never lets her guard down. :v:

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

willjbish posted:

After 60 hours I'm starting to think Bioware is trolling me with this deeproads stuff. I always find myself in a cave/ruin/whatever full of notes about a deeproads entrance and the darkspawn must be stopped! Only to find rocks are in the way or you can't open the door or it's been sealed off.

You can get to some pretty decently sized Dwarven ruins and a Deep Roads entrance in Hinterlands.

The quest was from some random note I found somewhere though.


Edit: Didn't realize you were quoting an older post that got a few answers.

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>

hobbesmaster posted:

So long as you generate enough guard. A Knight Enchanter could be a main tank too if they had a taunt.

You do enough damage that you don't need a taunt really.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Kainser posted:

I had a lot of fun playing my dwarven inquisitor but I definitely think there was bit less content for them than the elves. Which makes sense, you meet a poo poo ton of elves in the game but only 2 major dwarves and I don't even think there was any opportunity to have a dwarf chat with Varric.

Still worth it to have all npcs look down on you in cutscenes and the Warden-Commander Aeducan sending you a letter where he tells you to remember the stone.

e; I was honestly really disappointed in the lack of dwarves in the game, I was hoping that we'd get to see Kal-Sharok :(

I know some people in this thread speculated a while ago that it seems like the game was built for an elven Inquisitor even more than a human one, so I'll be interested for my next playthrough. I decided to be a human Mage instead of an elf because humans are usually better integrated in this kind of thing.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Ragg posted:

You do enough damage that you don't need a taunt really.

Taunts are to draw enemies that are attacking your ranged party members.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

precision posted:

I don't mind Sera but I'm glad someone else finally said Vivienne isn't the best thing since grilled cheese. She's boring at best.

Cassandra gets way more interesting as you advance the plot and she starts letting her guard down.
Take Cole out with Vivian and wander around for awhile.

I think Cassandra might be the best-written and realized NPC in a Bioware game ever. I'm forever sad she won't date girls :qq:

Pinely
Jul 23, 2013
College Slice

Kainser posted:

I had a lot of fun playing my dwarven inquisitor but I definitely think there was bit less content for them than the elves. Which makes sense, you meet a poo poo ton of elves in the game but only 2 major dwarves and I don't even think there was any opportunity to have a dwarf chat with Varric.

Still worth it to have all npcs look down on you in cutscenes and the Warden-Commander Aeducan sending you a letter where he tells you to remember the stone.

e; I was honestly really disappointed in the lack of dwarves in the game, I was hoping that we'd get to see Kal-Sharok :(

Hopefully that'll be a dlc. And hopefully it'll feature the legion of the dead. That's the kind of dlc that I'm looking for.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Yessss

hit Solas

you don't diss the Qun :colbert:

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

SubponticatePoster posted:

Take Cole out with Vivian and wander around for awhile.

I think Cassandra might be the best-written and realized NPC in a Bioware game ever. I'm forever sad she won't date girls :qq:

Speaking of, I get the prompts on characters I know aren't options for my character.

This isn't the universal love bug, right? It's just so they can shut me down?

SelfOM
Jun 15, 2010
Yeah I don't think you are suppose to know. Some of the rejections are great.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Baiard posted:

I'm stuck at the end boss fight. Some arbitrary amount of health of the boss gets crossed, and a loading screen starts loading a cutscene, but it just takes five minutes and then drops me back into the boss arena with a glitched boss who takes damage but cannot die. I guess I'll try a few more times and play it differently, but if not, I'll just drop the game until it gets patched I suppose.

Are you using the 60fps cutscene fix? I had that problem with some cutscenes until I turned it off.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
It's be cool if Iron Bull could convert a Qunari inquisitor to the Qun.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Aphrodite posted:

Speaking of, I get the prompts on characters I know aren't options for my character.

This isn't the universal love bug, right? It's just so they can shut me down?

Yep, not a bug. You can hit on a lot of characters and they'll just turn you down. You can even hit on Vivienne and Scout Harding, and they're not romance options for anyone.

Karnegal
Dec 24, 2005

Is it... safe?
For those with the party banter bug, some people seem to have found a work around that's working for some.

1.) Fast travel to a camp
2.) Mount up
3.) Dismount
4.) Rest at the camp
5.) Play

I've only given it 20-30 minutes, but I've already heard more party banter than I got in the previous 5-10 hours. I'm not sure if you need to do it every time you go to a new zone or what, but it seems to work. I am getting a weird glitch where Cassandra randomly says her "Again, we are victorious" line when we're just walking around as opposed to post-combat, but I'll take what I can get.

zeesik
Nov 30, 2010
Grimey Drawer
Anyone knows if there is a dragon age irc channel? I would like to have a place to organize multiplayer.

KoB
May 1, 2009

zeesik posted:

Anyone knows if there is a dragon age irc channel? I would like to have a place to organize multiplayer.

Theres a chatroom on origin, I dont know if people use it still.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

precision posted:

Sera gets way less annoying once the game properly starts. She is at least mostly pragmatic and matter of fact. I mean Bioware could totally have made her some kind of chaotic neutral truly random person but she really isn't.

What I'm saying is she's way better than Isabella and funnier also. I don't dislike any of the companions though Vivienne gets on my nerves sometimes for clashing with my worldview.

Vivienne loving sucks. It's like they siphoned out Morrigans few redeeming features, and made some uber-bitch. Especially in the banter she comes across as insufferable.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Thumbtacks posted:

Man, I just made Varric completely hate himself with one decision. These choices are harsh.

You're a monster. How can you do anything that would hurt Varric?

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Aphrodite posted:

Speaking of, I get the prompts on characters I know aren't options for my character.

This isn't the universal love bug, right? It's just so they can shut me down?
Beaten, but it's normal. If you're a girl hit on Dorian for laughs. The bug is only if NPC's refer to your character as the wrong gender, and I think you can actually romance otherwise unavailable options if you have it, so if you get one in a playthrough stick with it just to see what fucks up!

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

zeesik posted:

Anyone knows if there is a dragon age irc channel? I would like to have a place to organize multiplayer.

#ridethebull on synIRC, I think.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Son of Rodney posted:

Im loving the game and ive got a couple of questions:

1: where did you get to set the keep settings about previous game settings? Ive not had any prompts ever.

https://dragonagekeep.com then import the save into DAI or something.

Miss Mowcher
Jul 24, 2007

Ribbit
Act 1 spoiler - Decision

I want to choose the mages but I still would like to do a few templars quest if possible, when are you locked? If I start the 'Champion of the just' will I be locked in the templars choice or do I get an option later?

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Ilustforponydeath posted:

Vivienne loving sucks. It's like they siphoned out Morrigans few redeeming features, and made some uber-bitch. Especially in the banter she comes across as insufferable.

I did like her political explanation about how it was an unbelievably bad idea to declare independence after anders terrorism. It was a well thought out point of view... coming from someone with a lot to lose and nothing to gain

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

ZZZorcerer posted:

Act 1 spoiler - Decision

I want to choose the mages but I still would like to do a few templars quest if possible, when are you locked? If I start the 'Champion of the just' will I be locked in the templars choice or do I get an option later?

You'll be locked once you start Champions of the Just.

WindmillSlayer
Oct 16, 2013

any fixes for

Miss Mowcher
Jul 24, 2007

Ribbit

Deltasquid posted:

You'll be locked once you start Champions of the Just.

Maybe next playthrough then. Thanks !

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Thundercracker posted:

I did like her political explanation about how it was an unbelievably bad idea to declare independence after anders terrorism. It was a well thought out point of view... coming from someone with a lot to lose and nothing to gain

Still, she has all the charm of a rotting corpse. Atleast when dorian insults someone in the party, he does it with flair or a hint of self awareness. Vivienne just goes "I'm better than ALL of you, respect me!" I wish I could go back in time and boot her rear end.

lilspooky
Mar 21, 2006
Downloading the game at the moment. I'm kinda stuck on what type of character I want to play. In games like this I always enjoy a warrior or an archer. Not a tank type warrior though, more like a "chopping people the gently caress up" type. At the same time, how much fun are the archery classes?

Also it is correct that there are only 3 subclasses for each main class? I think Origins had more than that right?

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

enraged_camel posted:

I've been thinking about the symbolism in this game, in terms of what the game's setting and lore was inspired by. So far I got this:

Ferelden: England
Orlais: France
Tevinter: Italy (used to be a huge empire -- Roman -- but is a shadow of its former glory now)
Antiva: Spain
Chantry: the Church
Andraste: Jesus (there's a ton of parallels: she was God's "chosen" but was betrayed, etc.)
Exalted Marches: Crusades
Templars: Crusaders
Mages: ???
Elves: Jews (used to be the dominant society, but are now oppressed)
Par Vollen: the Norse (physically imposing, have their own religion, etc.)
Blight: Islam
Dwarves: The Byzantine Empire (used to be powerful but constant attacks by the darkspawn (muslims) have left it weak)
Orzammar: Istanbul/Constantinople

I hit on some of this before, but to spergcorrect:

Tevinter is REALLY obviously the Byzantine Empire - it's decadent and evil, and the Byzantines were also pretty renowned for being decadent and, if not evil, fairly close to it.

Antiva is Florentine Italy, not Spain - DA has another country that's Spain (Rivain, the home of Isabela the pirate lady from DA2). Antivans have Spanish accents because :bioware:. Zevran's tales of Antiva are straight out of Renaissance Italy.

Elves as Jews, Blight as Islam... uh, :psyduck: Dalish elves are pretty much straight out of Tolkien, and city elves being oppressed is a somewhat original inversion of the usual tropes, but... well, I'm not sure what's more racist, asserting Jews were ever a dominant society or that Muslims are brainless hordes of undead. (Plus as noted repeatedly, the Qunari are pretty much straight-up Caliphate-era Arab Muslims).

ShadowMoo
Mar 13, 2011

by Shine
Amazed this game hasn't been cracked yet. Some sort of new high powered exe hack protection in use. Do saves from DA:2 transfer? I never actually finished that game.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Turns out this game owns. I look forward to the goon retrospective when I'm done.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

ShadowMoo posted:

Amazed this game hasn't been cracked yet. Some sort of new high powered exe hack protection in use. Do saves from DA:2 transfer? I never actually finished that game.

The very first line of the original post. Come on.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Thundercracker posted:

I did like her political explanation about how it was an unbelievably bad idea to declare independence after anders terrorism. It was a well thought out point of view... coming from someone with a lot to lose and nothing to gain

Yeah, that made a lot of sense. She seemed pretty even-handed about it, too, like: yeah, she can see why some mages might want independence, but was that really the time? If you make your move then, it comes off as opportunist at best, and as condoning (or even being involved in) a terrorist act at worst. Mages' situation got notably worse after the rebellion started and their timing and manner of rebellion earned them very, very few allies and a whole host of enemies. It was just dumb as hell.

I'm not as cynical about mages needing to be restrained as some Dragon Age players. I think they definitely need a community, structure, and education, absolutely, because most of the stupid or evil mages we see are the ones who are either going it alone or are part of a small fringe group. It does seem possible, at least, that a large, unified community of mages, governed by experienced, wise mages (that "wise" part probably excludes Fiona) would be just as good at keeping abominations and blood mages at bay as the Templars have been, but without mages feeling dehumanized.

But holy poo poo, mages make it so, so hard to like them, sometimes. In DA:O and DA2, just about every lone mage you meet is just stupid as gently caress, and in DA:I, the entire mage quest feels like you're herding a bunch of scared children. And Vivienne is dead on with her assessment of the rebellion: maybe it makes sense to some people, but this was one of the worst ways to possibly go about it.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Has anyone encountered a bug where dialogue just stops after every line of dialogue and the only way to avoid softlocking the game is to skip through all of it? Encountered it twice so far.

Russian Remoulade
Feb 22, 2009

Fojar38 posted:

Has anyone encountered a bug where dialogue just stops after every line of dialogue and the only way to avoid softlocking the game is to skip through all of it? Encountered it twice so far.

Yep. That's been driving me absolutely loving batty.

Although I am mildly amused by my Inquisitor stopping in the middle of a conversation with someone and just staring at them like a spaz.

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Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

ZZZorcerer posted:

Maybe next playthrough then. Thanks !

Personally I went for the templars and I really don't regret it. I've heard both decisions are thematically appropriate.

Spoilers for some war table fluff: I love how, keeping the templars as your allies, they seem genuinely repentful and ashamed for their acts and you can send them to help people around Thedas and they generally do a sensible and competent job at it.

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