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I've been playing some Invisible, Inc. and while it isn't really finished (it's still in Early Access), it's terribly unfair at times. Having to pin down unconscious, knocked-out enemies to prevent them from regaining consciousness (two turns, or all of ten seconds later) is not my cup of tea! Give me an option to dispose of the guards and clear the level without painting myself into a corner. I get that the name of the game is stealth, but the way guards keep filling the area and security increases as time goes on makes me long for the ability to cut the Gordian Knot with a submachinegun.
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Nov 25, 2014 21:23
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Captain Hotbutt posted:I'm not a prude or anything, but in Grand Theft Auto 5 there's way, way too much swearing. I get that it's Grand Theft Auto and violence, bad language, and dirty humor are all par for the course. When it's every other word it feels cheap and try-too-hard, and it's really grating. Cheap and try-too-hard is a good summation of GTA 5, really.
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Morpheus posted:I'm enjoying The Evil Within as I'm unlocking more options for combat and such, but one thing that I really hate is the save room. It's sort of locked behind mirrors that you go 'into', or something, and every time you enter and leave, there's this incredibly high-pitched noise, like feedback, that plays. Bugs the poo poo out of me everytime, but the worst part is that I have a friend who suffers from migraines - she can't even be in my apartment when that noise plays, otherwise it'll set her off. So I mute it every time. Annoying sound effects have become my biggest nitpick with games the past few years. This is especially prevalent in games where you do a lot of menu shuffling like JRPGs, and it seems to be a huge problem with handheld games in particular. They love making every movement of the menu cursor and selections have obnoxious, usually high pitched noises that I find distract from the game for inexplicable reasons. I've started to play a lot more games on mute just because specific sounds get on my nerves.
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Nov 26, 2014 08:20
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Captain Hotbutt posted:I'm not a prude or anything, but in Grand Theft Auto 5 there's way, way too much swearing. I get that it's Grand Theft Auto and violence, bad language, and dirty humor are all par for the course. When it's every other word it feels cheap and try-too-hard, and it's really grating. I agree. I was playing it one night and my wife was in the room and said, "What a cool, edgy game you got there, with all of the swearing". I hadn't noticed it until she pointed it out, but it really is over the top.
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Nov 26, 2014 09:04
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The amount of tower-disabling enemies in Kingdom Rush Origins. It's always been a staple in these games but it feels like overkill in this game sometimes, especially with the type of maps that encourage a handful of strong concentrated towers. Also the setting(elves and nature) is kinda boring when they could have given us industrial revolution era dwarves/gnomes
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Nov 26, 2014 12:42
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Tiny Lowtax posted:I agree. I was playing it one night and my wife was in the room and said, "What a cool, edgy game you got there, with all of the swearing". I hadn't noticed it until she pointed it out, but it really is over the top. Sweetie, I love you, but you don't know what the gently caress you're talking about. Sorry, it actually is over the top though.
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Nov 26, 2014 15:13
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Nuebot posted:Annoying sound effects have become my biggest nitpick with games the past few years. This is especially prevalent in games where you do a lot of menu shuffling like JRPGs, and it seems to be a huge problem with handheld games in particular. They love making every movement of the menu cursor and selections have obnoxious, usually high pitched noises that I find distract from the game for inexplicable reasons. I've started to play a lot more games on mute just because specific sounds get on my nerves. Speaking of annoying sounds, I just finished Tomb Raider (2013) and getting the multiplayer achievements was like going to work. Since no one really play the game anymore, I was grinding XP and the PCs will just not shut the gently caress up with the chatter. I did the same thing and muted the TV as soon as I turned it on and just played some music from my laptop to make the time pass.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:40
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Rick_Hunter posted:Speaking of annoying sounds, I just finished Tomb Raider (2013) and getting the multiplayer achievements was like going to work. Since no one really play the game anymore, I was grinding XP and the PCs will just not shut the gently caress up with the chatter. I did the same thing and muted the TV as soon as I turned it on and just played some music from my laptop to make the time pass. Why are you playing an optional part of a game that isn't fun for you? Games are for fun. Or challenge, I guess. But you're not having fun or challenging yourself with dead multiplayer.
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Nov 27, 2014 05:55
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Achievements in general bring down games for me. Having a pop up appear with a sound after a cutscene or in the middle of gameplay is incredibly annoying. I honestly don't understand why achievements are standard practice now instead of being made fun until they went away like the nGage. But then again I read posts like the above all the time about people who play games they don't like for dozens of hours to unlock achievements. I would absolutely put achievements in my lovely game if it would make spergs play my deserted multiplayer for hours in complete misery for no payoff other than a sarcastic virtual pat on the back. poo poo's funny.
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Nov 27, 2014 06:37
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Professor Wayne posted:Achievements in general bring down games for me. Having a pop up appear with a sound after a cutscene or in the middle of gameplay is incredibly annoying. I'm not aware of any game system or service that doesn't allow you to disable these notifications. If it's that offensive to you, you would know that.
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Nov 27, 2014 06:40
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Oddly enough David Cage was able to get special dispensation from Sony for Heavy Rain so that trophy notifications would only show up during loading screens and not actually during gameplay.
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Nov 27, 2014 07:21
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DStecks posted:I'm not aware of any game system or service that doesn't allow you to disable these notifications. If it's that offensive to you, you would know that. Not sure if it's an Origin thing, but Dragon Age: Inquisition doesn't let you turn them off. It comes with a sound too. gently caress EA>
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Nov 27, 2014 07:58
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Weirdly enough, Inquisition's achievements won't even appear on screen despite playing that loud buzzer noise. Scared the poo poo out of me the first time as I thought it meant I'd chosen a lethal dialogue option or something.
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Nov 27, 2014 08:48
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Professor Wayne posted:I honestly don't understand why achievements are standard practice now instead of being made fun until they went away like the nGage. The whole "un-fun achivement" thing isn't meant for players, it's meant for devs. Widespread achievements in games is an incredibly easy and elegant way for developers to track what content in their games is getting done by what percentage of the buyer population and allows them to adjust future releases accordingly.
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Nov 27, 2014 11:22
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Captain Hotbutt posted:I'm not a prude or anything, but in Grand Theft Auto 5 there's way, way too much swearing. I get that it's Grand Theft Auto and violence, bad language, and dirty humor are all par for the course. When it's every other word it feels cheap and try-too-hard, and it's really grating. You should watch Deadwood right now
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Nov 27, 2014 13:02
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Heavy Lobster posted:The whole "un-fun achivement" thing isn't meant for players, it's meant for devs. Widespread achievements in games is an incredibly easy and elegant way for developers to track what content in their games is getting done by what percentage of the buyer population and allows them to adjust future releases accordingly. But doesnt that basically show that 99% of gamers are idiots and wont even get past the tutorial section, which in turn causes devs to front-load all their content instead of making an interesting game all the way through to the end? It just seems to me that the best games aren't necessarily made with the lowest common denominator in mind. Devs need to put more trust in the gamers, trust that we will find your drat content!
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Nov 27, 2014 13:09
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:But doesnt that basically show that 99% of gamers are idiots and wont even get past the tutorial section, which in turn causes devs to front-load all their content instead of making an interesting game all the way through to the end? It just seems to me that the best games aren't necessarily made with the lowest common denominator in mind. Devs need to put more trust in the gamers, trust that we will find your drat content! No, because that is how games have been developed for literally the entire existence of the medium.
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Nov 27, 2014 13:24
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Steam does achievements well of games, it shows you how many others got it. And you can order them on your own profile of how rare they are. Atm, my rarest achievement is Saints Row 3 'You're My Hero!'. Only 0.83% of all players have this.
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Nov 27, 2014 13:29
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...of SCIENCE! posted:No, because that is how games have been developed for literally the entire existence of the medium. Counter-point: dark souls. And possibly system shock 2, stalker shoc, thief 1 & 2, jedi outcast and of course; deus ex. That about sums up all the good games in existence. Edit: forgot Iji by Daniel Remar, and everything by Matt Thorson before he sold his soul to adult swim. Curdy Lemonstan has a new favorite as of 13:33 on Nov 27, 2014 |
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I wasn't exaggerating, one of the oldest stories in the history of videogame development is Nolan Bushnell releasing Computer Space, getting frustrated watching people in bars play it without even reading the instructions and then giving up when they couldn't understand it, and then responding by releasing Pong because it was more accessible to casual players. If anything it's only recently that games broke away from being so front-loaded as a holdover of the coin-op days where you wanted an impressive first stage to draw people in and get them to keep feeding the machine quarters or the NES era when the inability to save or have reliable in-game documentation meant they had to design the beginning of the game to function as a diagetic tutorial and hold up to dozens of re-plays every time you started the game over.
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happyhippy posted:Steam does achievements well of games, it shows you how many others got it. The PS4 and Vita do this as standard, it's pretty interesting though as you go through the achievements for a game and seeing the completion percentage steadily go down for each one. Diablo 3 is a good one, according to my list 83% of players beat the Skeleton King, the first major boss, while only a tiny amount, less than 15% beat Malthael, the final boss in Reaper of Souls.
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I like achievements, and I have no idea why. But it's all about the profile-wide stuff, stuff that is tracked not in the game, but via the user account I'm playing the game with. I like collecting stuff, I guess little digital trophies are one of the things I like  muscles like this? posted:Oddly enough David Cage was able to get special dispensation from Sony for Heavy Rain so that trophy notifications would only show up during loading screens and not actually during gameplay. Did he need special dispensation? Can't you just have the trophy-checking logic built in after the chapter is finished? Don't know why it'd be special or anything.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Counter-point: dark souls. And possibly system shock 2, stalker shoc, thief 1 & 2, jedi outcast and of course; deus ex. That about sums up all the good games in existence. Counter-counter-point: Unclench your butthole and learn to have fun with other games.
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sforzacio posted:Not sure if it's an Origin thing, but Dragon Age: Inquisition doesn't let you turn them off. It comes with a sound too. gently caress EA> poptart_fairy posted:Weirdly enough, Inquisition's achievements won't even appear on screen despite playing that loud buzzer noise. Scared the poo poo out of me the first time as I thought it meant I'd chosen a lethal dialogue option or something. Oh wow lol that is lovely.
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Heavy Lobster posted:The whole "un-fun achivement" thing isn't meant for players, it's meant for devs. Widespread achievements in games is an incredibly easy and elegant way for developers to track what content in their games is getting done by what percentage of the buyer population and allows them to adjust future releases accordingly. The 'x gamers got y achievement out of z copies' is a realistic metric since Bungie/343 stopped putting Vidmaster achievements in their games. Those were both un-fun and hard as hell.
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It's such a petty thing to bug me, but in Alien Isolation Amanda Ripley has little noodle arms when using tools in first person. Dammit woman you're an engineer who works for a living, you should be buffer than that. 
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poptart_fairy posted:It's such a petty thing to bug me, but in Alien Isolation Amanda Ripley has little noodle arms when using tools in first person. Dammit woman you're an engineer who works for a living, you should be buffer than that.
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Nov 27, 2014 17:43
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On the subject of truly little things, I wish Far Cry 3 would let me tap E to pick up loot items, instead of making me hold it for a second. Like, I guess it's so I don't pick up any money I didn't want to? 
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One of my friends got me The Binding of Isaac: The Rebirth for my birthday and it's much better than I thought it would be. The new characters are cool, it's less buggy, the new bosses are interesting and there's a filter option that smooths everything out to resemble the original's graphics more. But the music's kinda a letdown. Some is really good (like the new Cellar theme Periculum or Mega Satan's theme Hericide). But I dunno, the shop music, Caves/Catacombs and Depths/Necropolis isn't very memorable.
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There's a mod on reddit that lets you use the old tracks.
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happyhippy posted:Atm, my rarest achievement is Saints Row 3 'You're My Hero!'. Only 0.83% of all players have this. "You're my hero" buddy  
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Heavy Lobster posted:The whole "un-fun achivement" thing isn't meant for players, it's meant for devs. Widespread achievements in games is an incredibly easy and elegant way for developers to track what content in their games is getting done by what percentage of the buyer population and allows them to adjust future releases accordingly. It is amazing how many people apparently never play their games. Like, in the first Bioshock only 91% of players got the trophy for completing the Welcome to rapture level, which is the first 15ish minutes of the game, and thanks to Vita Chambers you basically can't fail. There's no Multiplayer in the game either so it's not a Call of Duty situation where everyone just does that. Nearly 1 in 10 players essentially didn't play the game. 
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Spalec posted:It is amazing how many people apparently never play their games. Like, in the first Bioshock only 91% of players got the trophy for completing the Welcome to rapture level, which is the first 15ish minutes of the game, and thanks to Vita Chambers you basically can't fail. There's no Multiplayer in the game either so it's not a Call of Duty situation where everyone just does that. Nearly 1 in 10 players essentially didn't play the game. Sometimes they glitch out and I don't think you can get Steam cheevos in Offline Mode (at least for certain games). Also there's people like me who got it as a pre-order bonus for some other game and don't actually want to play it. Already played it without Steam back when it was new.
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In Far Cry 4 it feels like they shortened the activation distance for things. Like, there are "bells" you have to spin as collectibles or whatever and I have yet to just walk up to one and spin it. I end up circling the drat things rubbing up against it crouching and standing trying to find the sweet spot where I actually get the activation prompt. You have to be closer to chests. Sometimes those masks you have to find underwater I have to dive 3 times to find the right spot to actually activate them. Sometimes you can be too close, and you can't interact with things, but the ideal distance is closer than it wasin FC3 so it still fucks me up every time. It's the most irritating random change in a game and I don't know what they did, it doesn't even seem intentional and yet I can't help but think some part of it was since they're using the exact same drat engine in this game. They made using the "use" key a chore. How the gently caress do you even manage that.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:But doesnt that basically show that 99% of gamers are idiots and wont even get past the tutorial section, which in turn causes devs to front-load all their content instead of making an interesting game all the way through to the end? It just seems to me that the best games aren't necessarily made with the lowest common denominator in mind. Devs need to put more trust in the gamers, trust that we will find your drat content! Spalec posted:It is amazing how many people apparently never play their games. Like, in the first Bioshock only 91% of players got the trophy for completing the Welcome to rapture level, which is the first 15ish minutes of the game, and thanks to Vita Chambers you basically can't fail. There's no Multiplayer in the game either so it's not a Call of Duty situation where everyone just does that. Nearly 1 in 10 players essentially didn't play the game.
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We'll, I've found the most annoying credits sequence ever created. It's in Infamous: Second Son. Not only are the credits unskippable (But they are pausable!) if you quit the game during them, when you next start it up, it starts them from the top. Once you've hit the credits, if you want to do literally anything else in the game, including starting a new game, you have to watch them or delete your save.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:But doesnt that basically show that 99% of gamers are idiots and wont even get past the tutorial section, which in turn causes devs to front-load all their content instead of making an interesting game all the way through to the end? It just seems to me that the best games aren't necessarily made with the lowest common denominator in mind. Devs need to put more trust in the gamers, trust that we will find your drat content! Yes and this is why wndgames have been bad forever.
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Elfface posted:We'll, I've found the most annoying credits sequence ever created. It's in Infamous: Second Son. So turn them on and walk away?
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Counter-point: dark souls. And possibly system shock 2, stalker shoc, thief 1 & 2, jedi outcast and of course; deus ex. That about sums up all the good games in existence. Dark Souls has some really lovely areas towards the end like Lost Izalith, System Shock 2 just isn't as good in the latter half generally, STALKER has the bizarre teleport maze run and gun bullshit, and Deux Ex has empty areas like Paris that they had to cut down due to time constraints. Also, thing dragging Vanquish down: I am only 23 and it's so intense it makes me feel like an old man. I can only play it in half-hour bursts or I start to feel overstimulated like an 11-year-old diabetic on a sugar high.
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