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Aphrodite posted:But then you still get everything you paid for. Except Dead Kings was probably going to cost $10-20 and is now free. That significantly diminishes the value of the season pass. Hence the free games. I think there's an argument to be made that if someone wants a refund they should get it. If I went and preordered a game from Gamestop, but the publisher of that game decided it would be free, I'd expect a refund too.
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Ardent Communist posted:As a observer without any skin in the game since I'm still saving for a PS4, this is a real class act by Ubisoft. Not only apologizing, but trying to make it better with something tangible and actually at a potential cost to Ubisoft. It doesn't, of course, excuse releasing it so buggy, but it's pretty much the best response a company can do in my eyes. I'll be making sure to pick this up now, good behaviour should be rewarded (of course I probably would anyway since I'm reading a thread about a game I can't play at this time, but still). Well, the big thing to note here is that the bulk of people are just getting the DLC for free. Which is nice but is also clearly Ubisoft struggling to keep people playing the game so they can continue to sell microtransaction stuff. Aphrodite posted:But then you still get everything you paid for. I think the issue here is that these customers are asking for refunds, not for what they paid for due to severe unhappiness with the game. For US gamers that isn't an issue (they just can't get it) but it's a much more debatable subject in other countries. macnbc posted:Except Dead Kings was probably going to cost $10-20 and is now free. That significantly diminishes the value of the season pass. Hence the free games. I think there's an argument to be made that if someone wants a refund they should get it. They said something else of similar value will be given to them instead IIRC.
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Wish they had included AC: Rogue in the list of games you can get if you bought the season pass. Only game I don't have is Just Dance and...gently caress that.
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Nov 26, 2014 20:52
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ImpAtom posted:They said something else of similar value will be given to them instead IIRC. They are not offering anything of imilar value. The actual list was posted earlier and includes Watch_Dogs, FC4, and The Crew. So for the price of a $10-20 DLC pack, you're getting $60 games free. Also get FC4, it owns. I guess I have to get The Crew.
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Nov 26, 2014 21:35
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Yay, "free" Farcry 4. I wanted it anyways and was waiting for a sale. Neat.
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Nov 26, 2014 21:37
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TheCoon posted:If you were retarded enough to buy the Gold Edition Oh, hello, that's me! Looks like it was absolutely worth it for Far Cry 4. I'll take $120 worth of games for $90! I've enjoyed the gently caress out of Unity even past all the technical issues, so this is just icing on the cake.
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Nov 26, 2014 22:53
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Snuffman posted:Yay, "free" Farcry 4. I wanted it anyways and was waiting for a sale. Neat. Daily Forecast posted:Oh, hello, that's me! But again, I have to reiterate that I only installed it after the second patch and my gaming rig can apparently handle the game really well, which seems to be a cosmic coincidence of some kind.
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Nov 26, 2014 23:03
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Lollerich posted:The multiplayer seems to be intermittently broken (there seem to be issues with synchronizing the clients) but when it works is also good fun. I have the same experience with it. When the multiplayer is working correctly it's actually extremely fun to sneak around with a random otherArno and synchronize assassinations. I've also played hilariously stupid co-op games where it's been me running around getting hit by invisible guards (ghosts!) and the other three teleporting around the map and through the floor. And then the game crashes. Lollerich posted:But again, I have to reiterate that I only installed it after the second patch and my gaming rig can apparently handle the game really well, which seems to be a cosmic coincidence of some kind. Been playing since day 1 and at first I got maybe 15-20 fps at best and now my game runs at around 30-40 (except around the cafe, for some reason, where it dips to like 5, who the gently caress even knows), and I didn't even do anything. I'd guess they've been working on ironing out server-side issues as well.
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Daily Forecast posted:I have the same experience with it. When the multiplayer is working correctly it's actually extremely fun to sneak around with a random otherArno and synchronize assassinations. I've also played hilariously stupid co-op games where it's been me running around getting hit by invisible guards (ghosts!) and the other three teleporting around the map and through the floor. Also, been trying to get into [SAAC] but it seems there are too many requests to join the club. Can something be done about this? Is anybody from here interested in starting a new club? Most pubbies I've played with so far were either super compentent or retarded, I'd rather prefer some consistency.
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Lollerich posted:I have consistently high frame rates at ultra settings (plus forced 16xAF and MFAA in the nvidia settings), so it looks really pretty actually. The game has never crashed not even when the multiplayer really really shat itself. If they could finally fix their server issues that would be great. I'm holding on advancing the story until I can get some more skill points and money, so coop mode would be the best way to do that at the moment if it wasn't completely hosed. This is probably my fault, let me go check if there's a shitton of request sitting there. E: Cleared the applications for SAAC, should be able to send one in now, though there are only six more slots. Astonishingly my game somehow runs even worse now. Orv fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Nov 26, 2014 |
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Nov 26, 2014 23:36
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Orv posted:This is probably my fault, let me go check if there's a shitton of request sitting there. I have applied! Yay!
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Nov 26, 2014 23:58
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Unity just became the best creed game for me because I got a free copy of Far Cry 4 with it.
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Nov 27, 2014 01:22
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Lollerich posted:Is there some way to claim it yet though? No, they said they're working on a system for that. I think there will be more details next week.
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Lollerich posted:Is there some way to claim it yet though? Not yet but it's coming. The reddit post on this whole thing was kinda vague. To Ubisoft's credit there was a rep answering questions but what wasn't made clear is whether season pass holders still get that Shao Jun side scroller (which I hope is like Mark of the Ninja but almost certainly won't be as good) and all the preorder nonsense.
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Snuffman posted:The reddit post on this whole thing was kinda vague. To Ubisoft's credit there was a rep answering questions but what wasn't made clear is whether season pass holders still get that Shao Jun side scroller (which I hope is like Mark of the Ninja but almost certainly won't be as good) and all the preorder nonsense. From the FAQ link posted on the last page: Ubisoft posted:What about the other content from the Season Pass?
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Just a sad reminder that if you are playing on XB1 and want to join my sad, nearly empty brotherhood just search for Goonassin. I think if I get one more member the progress bar for "four members" will be complete and we may all get a hat or some other meaningless doodad.
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Nov 27, 2014 05:14
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So 1.3 hit on steam. I don't think it improved my framerate so much as made it seem more stable? And I don't have crazy camera issues where it whips around randomly anymore, so that's good too.
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Nov 27, 2014 16:50
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Sorry for going back a game or two but do you "need" to finish AC 3 for Black Flag and Unity to make sense? I found 3 clunky and wasn't a fan of Connor compared to Ezio, the only 2 games I played in the franchise I didn't complete the story in were the original (drat flag run quests) and 3.
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Anime_Otaku posted:Sorry for going back a game or two but do you "need" to finish AC 3 for Black Flag and Unity to make sense? I found 3 clunky and wasn't a fan of Connor compared to Ezio, the only 2 games I played in the franchise I didn't complete the story in were the original (drat flag run quests) and 3. Watch the ending to 3 on YouTube to see the Desmond sorry end at breakneck speed. Modern plot in 4 is pretty nonexistent.
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Nov 27, 2014 19:22
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I don't know that thing with the Sage in AC 4 is kinda important.
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Anime_Otaku posted:Sorry for going back a game or two but do you "need" to finish AC 3 for Black Flag and Unity to make sense? I found 3 clunky and wasn't a fan of Connor compared to Ezio, the only 2 games I played in the franchise I didn't complete the story in were the original (drat flag run quests) and 3. All 3 of those are relatively standalone. 4's historical story takes place many years before 3, so there's not a lot of crossover. Unity has nothing to do with either of them. If you want to play Rogue though it ties heavily into 3 with also characters from 4.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Eh, that "Four year development time" is kinda bullshit. They had people working on the game for four years, but I'd bet anything that the bulk of the work and programming and actual implementation was maybe a solid eighteen months. "and across 10 development studios" Some guy in the montreal studio made 3 sound effects and shanghai had a trio doing textures of which ten made it into the final game. Lets face it, if they can't even think of a new mechanic to replace pirating the game was made in less than a year. And that's including all the work done in the 4 year timeframe we're given. NeoSeeker fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Nov 27, 2014 |
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Anime_Otaku posted:Sorry for going back a game or two but do you "need" to finish AC 3 for Black Flag and Unity to make sense? I found 3 clunky and wasn't a fan of Connor compared to Ezio, the only 2 games I played in the franchise I didn't complete the story in were the original (drat flag run quests) and 3. 1/2/Bro/3 are all you need to play to understand the modern plot. 2/Bro/Rev are all you need to play to see the Ezio plot. 3/Black Flag/Rogue are all you need to understand the Kenway family plot ( or just Black Flag honestly, 3/Rogue have ties to Black Flag, but neither are must play/that great. ). Liberation adds flavor to 3/Black Flag/Rogue. Unity is a new beginning for the series, although it may/probably will eventually tie into the events of Black Flag.
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Ardent Communist posted:As a observer without any skin in the game since I'm still saving for a PS4, this is a real class act by Ubisoft. Not only apologizing, but trying to make it better with something tangible and actually at a potential cost to Ubisoft. It doesn't, of course, excuse releasing it so buggy, but it's pretty much the best response a company can do in my eyes. I'll be making sure to pick this up now, good behaviour should be rewarded (of course I probably would anyway since I'm reading a thread about a game I can't play at this time, but still). They are just protecting the game's resell value. Ubisoft has vast invest in the game not diving to $20 in a short time. Class act my rear end.
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whatever7 posted:They are just protecting the game's resell value. Ubisoft has vast invest in the game not diving to $20 in a short time. Class act my rear end. I think they're still trying to recover from that dive their stock took after Unity got panned on pretty much every news site and got raked over the coals for its bugs and performance issues.
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whatever7 posted:They are just protecting the game's resell value. Ubisoft has vast invest in the game not diving to $20 in a short time. Class act my rear end. Unity was clearly designed with a long-tail in mind. They intended people to play it for a while, purchase microtransactions, buy the DLC and in general it was clearly designed with the idea of being monetized into the future. Instead they got a complete disaster which is being returned or traded in which has no good impact on anything. They're probably trying to rush patches out as far as they humanly can in order to get people to keep the game and actually buy the microtransaction-based stuff and the "you'll get the DLC in the future" thing is part of that. The fact they're giving away a $60 game is totally a goodwill gesture but it's also probably because they really had expected to make significantly more money off the Helix Credits than they did off games, and the Season Pass buyers are some of the most likely to invest more money into the game that way. Games like ME3 or whatever have turned significantly more profits off their in-game purchases than they did off the actual sales of the game and Ubisoft was pretty obviously hoping to follow up on that. We'll see if it works out for them but it doesn't feel like an honest me culpa and a lot more of a "oh god, don't sell our game before you can give us money!"
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There is absolutely no reason to buy Helix Credits. The renovated cafe makes around 10K per 15 minutes once you've done the five really easy missions for it, which also net you around 40K total.
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Nov 28, 2014 00:55
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Lollerich posted:There is absolutely no reason to buy Helix Credits. The renovated cafe makes around 10K per 15 minutes once you've done the five really easy missions for it, which also net you around 40K total. Yeah, and you can't even buy the stuff locked behind missions/clan competition/etc.
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Found this on imgur, and it completely hosed me up.quote:The official Assassin's Creed Unity action figure! 
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Lollerich posted:There is absolutely no reason to buy Helix Credits. The renovated cafe makes around 10K per 15 minutes once you've done the five really easy missions for it, which also net you around 40K total. After about 30 hours I had literally everything in the game and I haven't spent a single cent beyond that first preorder, so that's how much microtransactions matter!
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There was a great piece on Kotaku about how they had a guy buy the 99 dollar microtransactions package - and even with him buying everything that could be humanly useful he still had sixty bucks or so left. Also, I laugh every time Ubisoft trailer announces "Worked on for four years with TEN studios." How in the holy lord of gently caress is ten studios a good thing? That's not a selling point, that's just poor management. I'd be very curious to know what the division of labor was, in comparison to something like GTAV - which had pretty much every Rockstar affiliated studio chipping in but feels 100% more coherent.
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Narcissus1916 posted:There was a great piece on Kotaku about how they had a guy buy the 99 dollar microtransactions package - and even with him buying everything that could be humanly useful he still had sixty bucks or so left. It feels weird I know they did a great deal of engine/art assets but after so much work I feel like there should be more to the game like it feels like a sequel to Assassin's Creed 1 it even has the same annoying movement bugs and annoying "tail some dude while he blathers for 10 minutes don't get seen or you will have to do it again" missions like they haven't learned or evolved anything in the game design process.
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Nov 28, 2014 16:46
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 For the next two hours, Rogue is listed as a Lightning Deal for 25 bucks on Amazon.
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Nov 28, 2014 20:19
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I'm playing Rogue now and it's loving embarrassing how much more competent it is than Unity.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm playing Rogue now and it's loving embarrassing how much more competent it is than Unity. The 4th game on an engine shouldn't really have any technical issues.
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Al Harrington posted:they really need to patch it to cut the amount of people milling around to half, the game flat out cannot handle it, the pop in is horrendous and people are constantly spawning inside walls and standing on stuff
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