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yeah no doubt, but I feel like he's just overstayed his welcome and could do with a change of scenery. also still he makes really awful decisions regularlyshiksa posted:Why would the Eagles trade Foles? seems like it'd be mutually beneficial. I feel like Kap could thrive in a Kelly offense, and Harbaugh could go Alex Smith on a guy like Foles
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indigi posted:yeah no doubt, but I feel like he's just overstayed his welcome and could do with a change of scenery. also still he makes really awful decisions regularly "We don't need luck; Jay will throw us the ball." http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8376786/same-old-jay-cutler
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indigi posted:yeah no doubt, but I feel like he's just overstayed his welcome and could do with a change of scenery. also still he makes really awful decisions regularly I know it is not really a serious suggestion, but it is hard to imagine a world in which SF gets rid of Kaepernick but keeps Harbaugh.
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That's sort of the thing. Chip's offense has proven malleable enough that it can work with completely mediocre Quarterbacks, so why take on Kaepernick's massive contract when you can get someone just as effective for a fraction of the cap hit. It just doesn't make any sense once you factor in how much Kaepernick is being paid. The 49ers are more or less stuck with him unless he improves. Basically what I'm saying is keep the Sanchize in Philly.
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Ostentatious posted:That's sort of the thing. Chip's offense has proven malleable enough that it can work with completely mediocre Quarterbacks, so why take on Kaepernick's massive contract when you can get someone just as effective for a fraction of the cap hit. His deal is only guaranteed for injury after the first year. After that, he can be cut at the beginning of the league year (March) for basically no dead money. We're not stuck with him, if we for some reason decide that playing the "sure, staking our franchise on Geno Smith" game is preferable to having a usually pretty good QB who sometimes is inexplicably bad.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:His deal is only guaranteed for injury after the first year. After that, he can be cut at the beginning of the league year (March) for basically no dead money. We're not stuck with him, if we for some reason decide that playing the "sure, staking our franchise on Geno Smith" game is preferable to having a usually pretty good QB who sometimes is inexplicably bad. The deal may look massive in comparison to what Foles makes.He was a fourth round pick and still has another 2 years in his rookie contract.
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It's worth noting, even though we're talking about silly hypotheticals at the moment, that there were rumblings about Kelly and the FO being down on Foles and up on Sanchez before the season even started. They just weren't about to pull the trigger on benching Foles after last season's success.
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seiferguy posted:Sherman does indeed own for his corner back skills and professional trolling, yes. Probably my favorite Seattle pro player outside of Felix Hernandez. Plus he looks like Busta Rhymes, which is cool. More people should look like Busta Rhymes.
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Toaster Beef posted:It's worth noting, even though we're talking about silly hypotheticals at the moment, that there were rumblings about Kelly and the FO being down on Foles and up on Sanchez before the season even started. They just weren't about to pull the trigger on benching Foles after last season's success. Sanchez is maddening because of his flashes of brilliance and the fact that he's so likable, and then randomly decides to do the dumbest thing ever like 3 times a game.
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It's been laughingly brought up before, but I'll continue the humor: Foles for RGIII straight up
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Congratulations, this thread marks the 5,000th discussion of the details of Kaepernick's contract. Everyone take a shot of Hemlock to celebrate.
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Alex Smith for Cutler straight up. The Chiefs' defense could withstand the turnovers, and Reid could get the most out of Cutler (probably not much more than he's ever shown). Plus if they can play with a lead for once, that defense will only look better. Smith could dink n dunk all day, letting the big Chicago receivers go for YAC. With far less turnovers and by controlling time of possession, Chicago could grind out the kind of 16-9 victories its fanbase so dearly loves. Hell, Cutler & Marshall for Alex Smith and a 2nd round pick....let's do this.
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It's cute people still think there is someone on this earth who "can get the most out of Cutler" 
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Sanchez is maddening because of his flashes of brilliance and the fact that he's so likable, and then randomly decides to do the dumbest thing ever like 3 times a game. Yeah, once every half or so he'll do some tremendously stupid poo poo that makes you remember this dude was, at one point, no longer good enough to start on the New York Jets — but the offense he's in can handle mistakes like that as long as they aren't too frequent, so for now it's kosher.
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ChickenMedium posted:Plus he looks like Busta Rhymes, which is cool. More people should look like Busta Rhymes. I uh... Are those the only two black people you've ever seen?
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Dirt Worshipper posted:I uh... Are those the only two black people you've ever seen? In his defense, Sherm does kinda resemble a young Busta Bus. Lately though, Busta looks like he could play for the OLine for any nfl franchise.
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Shath Hole posted:In his defense, Sherm does kinda resemble a young Busta Bus. Lately though, Busta looks like he could play for the OLine for any nfl franchise. Eh not really. edit: To the first part, Busta has gotten really fat.
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Chip Kelly with a mobile QB would be loving Fascinating.
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euphronius posted:Chip Kelly with a mobile QB would be loving Fascinating. Sanchez ran all over us 
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I thought this was a cool picture from the SF/SEA game: This is the play call that resulted in the game's only touchdown. Things to note: RB who scores the touchdown is all alone. Tony Moeaki is covered by no less than four 49ers (FYI: He is sloooooooooooooow.) Apparently on the far offensive right Marshawn Lynch is open too. Credit where credit is due, our piss poo poo idiot OC drew up a pretty nice play here. I wont be a fan until he publicly destroys all iterations of his playbook's bubble screens and jet sweeps. John Morgan @ Field Gulls posted:Seattle broke in a two-back pistol, with Robert Turbin to Wilson's left and Marshawn Lynch behind Wilson. Almost immediately, Lynch motioned wide right. This confused the livin' hell out of San Francisco.
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 and  i think broadly speaking they look similar, thanks
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Schwack posted:I thought this was a cool picture from the SF/SEA game: Your garbage OC is better than our garbage OC 
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Schwack posted:I thought this was a cool picture from the SF/SEA game: Hey look our O-line is protecting RW, you don't see that every day.
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I did say it was gonna be garbage OC against garbage OC. Yours was just better than ours.  I'm just hoping this will make Roman not come back next year because I'm really getting sick of this poo poo.
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georgia what are you doing to me
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euphronius posted:Chip Kelly with a mobile QB would be loving Fascinating. Give him Johnny Manziel and just say gently caress it for a year
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Democratic Pirate posted:Give him Johnny Manziel and just say gently caress it for a year Colt McCoy could be available.
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football fuckerman posted:
Yeah I see that, I'm too used to fat Buster Rhymes.
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Shath Hole posted:It's cute people still think there is someone on this earth who "can get the most out of Cutler" Cutler is by no means a good quarterback but he might be ok if he wasn't on the same team with the worst defense in the history of organized football.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Cutler is by no means a good quarterback but he might be ok if he wasn't on the same team with the worst defense in the history of organized football. Cutler has been the same player his entire career, even when he was on a team with a good defense. He will be that what if player forever, apparently. It was what if he had weapons, then what if he had a line, then what if he was in the same system for more than a year and now its what if his defense was better. I didnt realize the defense was making him throw bad interceptions, fumble away bad balls and make generally piss poor decisions while using bad mechanics. He is who he is and it's who he has been all along.
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I don't think he'll ever be THAT much better than he is right now but tbf he still doesn't have a NFL quality O-line
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indigi posted:I don't think he'll ever be THAT much better than he is right now but tbf he still doesn't have a NFL quality O-line It's not the Cowboys, but their line is actually pretty serviceable right now. Bushrod has been solid, Long has been great, Garza is old but reliable and I think Ola has been holding is own. Mills was/is the only one that was glaringly bad.
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Shath Hole posted:Cutler has been the same player his entire career, even when he was on a team with a good defense. He will be that what if player forever, apparently. It was what if he had weapons, then what if he had a line, then what if he was in the same system for more than a year and now its what if his defense was better. I didnt realize the defense was making him throw bad interceptions, fumble away bad balls and make generally piss poor decisions while using bad mechanics. So much this. The year before the Bear's had one of the highest scoring offenses but it didn't matter. He was surrounded with awesome talent but was still prone to making awful decisions. He has way too much confidence in his arm and will try to chuck one up for his receivers to make a play. Other QBs have managed to not look so lovely when behind bad lines, even if they still struggled a bit. Watching him play when a game is starting to slide is like watching someone struggle in quicksand. He tries to go for the home run to quickly catch up and digs himself into a deeper hole. He's not that good. His OL isn't the best but these past 2 seasons it wasn't near as bad as other OL units he's had in his career, and he's still look like the same panicky QB.
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Shath Hole posted:Cutler has been the same player his entire career, even when he was on a team with a good defense. He will be that what if player forever, apparently. It was what if he had weapons, then what if he had a line, then what if he was in the same system for more than a year and now its what if his defense was better. I didnt realize the defense was making him throw bad interceptions, fumble away bad balls and make generally piss poor decisions while using bad mechanics. Correct, people make excuses for him more than any player I have ever seen
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Shath Hole posted:It's not the Cowboys, but their line is actually pretty serviceable right now. Bushrod has been solid, Long has been great, Garza is old but reliable and I think Ola has been holding is own. Mills was/is the only one that was glaringly bad. Cowboys line isn't that good Neither is Cutler
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Cutler will play until he's like 44 and not give a gently caress the entire time playing.
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Jay Cutler is not a good quarterback, but the Chicago Bears would be a terrible team if they had basically any quarterback on earth except magical superman Aaron Rodgers who is literally the only player you need to make an unstoppable football team.
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African AIDS cum posted:Correct, people make excuses for him more than any player I have ever seen What about kaepernick?
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DOOP posted:Cowboys line isn't that good Wake up. It's the best or one of the best of the decade
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DOOP posted:Cowboys line isn't that good Then 31 other teams have OLs that are worse than "not that good"
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