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AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009

Hubis posted:

In the grimdark future warfare of 2214, all air combat will be a ceaseless chain of Pugachev's Cobras being performed while firing at BVR targets with no radar signature :getin:
China is ready for this. :china:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ4yyOD2bjE&t=4138s

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Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
The RAF officially unveiled its first A400M today. Only 21 more to be delivered...

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

VikingSkull posted:

So the conversation just drifts to the Cold War and I start telling him about growing up in the 80's with the looming threat of nuclear war and all the fun stuff, and he just deadpans "so why is everyone so mad about crazy Muslims in the desert?

"Well, little Timmy - this country has the attention span of a gnat, so something that happened almost 30 years ago has about as much significance to this generation as something that happened nearly 300 or 3000 years ago."

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Pablo Bluth posted:

The RAF officially unveiled its first A400M today. Only 21 more to be delivered...

A plane in search of a mission to justify its price tag.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Hubis posted:

Man, that Life photo set makes me long for good nose art.

Can people post pics of modern/cold war-era nose art?




I hope museum pieces are okay.




Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

This is adorable! So do they paint the pilot or is it the ground crew chief?

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!
It looks like they're just mascot characters for a particular attack helicopter garrison, not the actual pilots/radiomen. Also the JGSDF has apparently ordered it cancelled. My sources, sadly, are more in the line of anime interest sites than aviation news, so I can't link them here.

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"

StandardVC10 posted:

I hope museum pieces are okay.

March Field! Such a cool air museum. Lots of Cold_War.jpg











Beardless
Aug 12, 2011

I am Centurion Titus Polonius. And the only trouble I've had is that nobody seem to realize that I'm their superior officer.

Does anyone know what planes these are? I can't figure it out, and reverse-google searching them has been less than helpful.

Edit: Looks like a C141, a C-123, a F 102, and a KC 97 (The last three literally had the model written on the plane. :doh:)

Beardless fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Nov 28, 2014

NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
I � Unicode

Beardless posted:

Does anyone know what planes these are? I can't figure it out, and reverse-google searching them has been less than helpful.

:eng101: All are easily identifiable if you zoom in.

"Spirit of the Inland Empire" - C-141 Starlifter - http://c141heaven.info/dotcom/65/pic_65_0257.php

C-123M - As seen in Con Air - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_C-123_Provider

George W. Bush's own F-102 Delta Dagger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger

KC-97 - The B-29, but a Freighter, but a Tanker! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-97_Stratofreighter

Beardless
Aug 12, 2011

I am Centurion Titus Polonius. And the only trouble I've had is that nobody seem to realize that I'm their superior officer.

NightGyr posted:

:eng101: All are easily identifiable if you zoom in.

"Spirit of the Inland Empire" - C-141 Starlifter - http://c141heaven.info/dotcom/65/pic_65_0257.php

C-123M - As seen in Con Air - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_C-123_Provider

George W. Bush's own F-102 Delta Dagger - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger

KC-97 - The B-29, but a Freighter, but a Tanker! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-97_Stratofreighter

Yeah, I took a second look at the pictures and realized that. Thanks though.

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
Have some pilots flying insanely low.










More here: http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

gently caress, humans are awesome

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state
gently caress some of those are literally two meters off the ground.

In other, Cold War II related news, Putin's Russian Federation of Putinland successfully again tested the new ballistic nuclear missile Bulava. Also they play to open new army bases, radar stations and airfields in the Arctic.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Where the heck are they getting the money to pay for all this, the price of oil is cratering.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

priznat posted:

Where the heck are they getting the money to pay for all this, the price of oil is cratering.

Hell even with oil prices high, they didn't have the money to pay for it.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

MrChips posted:

Hell even with oil prices high, they didn't have the money to pay for it.

I don't really know much about economics so the whole thing is a puzzler to me. They're still a pretty large economy I guess.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

priznat posted:

I don't really know much about economics so the whole thing is a puzzler to me. They're still a pretty large economy I guess.

Smaller than Britain and we're too poor for fancy new missiles, just lovely planes for our lovely carriers.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Baracula posted:

Smaller than Britain and we're too poor for fancy new missiles, just lovely planes for our lovely carriers.

I guess they can save a lot on health care and old age pension when the life expectancy is poo poo.

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

priznat posted:

I don't really know much about economics so the whole thing is a puzzler to me. They're still a pretty large economy I guess.

Should be smaller then California's. I don't know, strange.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
We'll see how much of it actually happens. The Russian aircraft industry post-USSR-collapse is full of vaporware and partially implemented ideas, I suspect much of their defense infrastructure may share those issues.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

OhYeah posted:

gently caress some of those are literally two meters off the ground.

From way back in the thread somewhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UntN_cZUQg8 (people on the ground)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1G-RrZbTL4 (cockpit view)

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

PittTheElder posted:

From way back in the thread somewhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UntN_cZUQg8 (people on the ground)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1G-RrZbTL4 (cockpit view)

:stare:

There really isn't ANY room for mistakes at that (lack) of distance from the ground. That pilot had some balls.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

And with three engines feathered!

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Air Force Museum in Dayton.



simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

priznat posted:

I don't really know much about economics so the whole thing is a puzzler to me. They're still a pretty large economy I guess.

Considering that their national budget is less than 1/4 the endowment of Harvard University...

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"

OWLS! posted:

Considering that their national budget is less than 1/4 the endowment of Harvard University...

Just wait until Harvard starts buying F-35s. Then we can have a Harvard-Yale dogfight...

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Bacarruda posted:

Just wait until Harvard starts buying F-35s. Then we can have a Harvard-Yale dogfight...

Until MIT punks them both with stealth weather balloons.

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

OWLS! posted:

Considering that their national budget is less than 1/4 the endowment of Harvard University...

Well, Russia is less of a threat to American democracy.

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011


:stare:
I saw the handprints first but I'm more interested in the nuke emblem.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

bitcoin bastard posted:

:stare:
I saw the handprints first but I'm more interested in the nuke emblem.

I don't think it's a nuke emblem so much as a radiation hazard warning from the radar. But it's a Frogfoot, so vOv.

Only other thing I can think of is it's to demarcate that the aircraft is, or was once, nuclear-capable. The Soviets would rip out the arming circuitry (occasionally) and give their B-stock to allies and arms customers. That's how the MiG-29Cs we got from Moldova still had the arming circuitry in them - not that it does a tremendous amount of good without the bomb and codes to match it.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Nov 30, 2014

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

I would assume that it is indicating that the nose laser gives of a fair bit of visible radiation when it's on. That or just aircrew/pilot graffiti.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Should have named that one "The Artful Dodger"

Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008

Pretend my finger's a knife.

bitcoin bastard posted:

:stare:
I saw the handprints first but I'm more interested in the nuke emblem.

It means radiation in the general sense, not nuclear weapons related radiation. For the Su-25, it's marking that there's a laser rangefinder right there and you probably shouldn't look directly into it. Some American jets have similar warnings:



Prowlers, I suppose, because most of the jet has the capacity to radiate.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

PCjr sidecar posted:

Well, Russia is less of a threat to American democracy.

:rimshot:

So the Nazis in 1940 had build the best long distance reconnaissance aircraft in the world. They had a prototype flying and everything. 10,000 km range 5000 km range, fully pressurized, 41,000 ft ceiling. They didn't put it into production because it had been commissioned to carry the 1940 Olympic torch from Berlin to Tokyo in a single bound, and now that the Olympics was cancelled they didn't see the point.

e: wait, this isn't the AI thread. Forget this fact, it is not cold war related.

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Nov 30, 2014

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Nebakenezzer posted:

:rimshot:

So the Nazis in 1940 had build the best long distance reconnaissance aircraft in the world. They had a prototype flying and everything. 10,000 km range 5000 km range, fully pressurized, 41,000 ft ceiling. They didn't put it into production because it had been commissioned to carry the 1940 Olympic torch from Berlin to Tokyo in a single bound, and now that the Olympics was cancelled they didn't see the point.

e: wait, this isn't the AI thread. Forget this fact, it is not cold war related.

Eh its more on point than a good chunk of discussion here. What plane was that?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

That Works posted:

Eh its more on point than a good chunk of discussion here. What plane was that?

This one. They flew the prototypes until 1944 but never did much of anything with it.

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Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED


Churchill's grand scheme to turn a rearmed Wehrmacht against Stalin never came to pass, but the British pulled off a smaller version in Greece.

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