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Cake Attack posted:which is troy baker, so it's always weird to me that people don't acknowledge that snow rules Yeah Snow's actually the best FFXIII character.
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Actually Sazh is the best character because of madworld.
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Dec 1, 2014 05:30
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I love when games get pretentious enough to think their awful story telling is supposed to be dramatic, so that scene is one of my favorites. You really have to wonder what the people behind it were thinking.
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Dec 1, 2014 05:35
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah Snow's actually the best FFXIII character. Exactly. I never intend to touch FFXIII again but Snow was easily my favorite playable character in the game. Then again, since there are only like, 4 non-playable characters of any significance, what I'm saying is that Snow was my favorite character in the whole game. I never understood the hate for him. Hope, who I also liked, I can easily understand the hate for. But Snow? Lightning was the insufferable part of XIII.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:04
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NikkolasKing posted:I never understood the hate for him You don't understand why people hate a character who goes on about how he has to protect everyone all the time forever and yelling about being a hero? He's the character who most repeats his same tired rear end shtick and it gets to the point where he is loving insufferable. This is not even mentioning him trying to do insanely stupid poo poo like calling Lightning "Sis" whenever her sister is currently crystalized and Lightning already does not like him. He comes off as an unrelateable person in about every way. The only person in the game that has any semblance of pathos and you can connect with is Sazh who actually has a realistic problem.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:08
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I didn't find him insufferable, but then again I finished the game in japanese where there's a few more translation differences that are...I dunno why they left them out.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:28
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I mean, it's fair enough if you like the character, I'm not saying you shouldn't. I find it hard to believe that anyone doesn't see why people would find him obnoxious. (I'm not responding to you, Tae.)
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Dec 1, 2014 06:29
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Has American audiences ever liked shounen-type happy-go-lucky main characters in non-japanese games? Like I'm legit trying to think of the last big game that had a non-broody/snarky Joss Whedon guy.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:38
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I honestly don't remember the last time we had a prominent main character that was an honest, happy-go-lucky goof who was well liked. Maybe Spider-Man, but that's been both a constant for like 50 years and he still incorporates being snarky into it. Maybe Aang from Avatar?
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Dec 1, 2014 06:40
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Are you seriously counting that one broken achievement game as Aang's representation
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Dec 1, 2014 06:42
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I'm just referring to in general, like it's not even just video games it's an American entertainment wide thing.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:43
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he's speaking in the broader sense, not just video games i'm not sure why you'd talk about something that's not anime or video games, but that's his decision to live with
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Dec 1, 2014 06:43
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Uh, Finn from Adventure Time? (There are even Adventure Time games!)
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I wanna say we can't count kids shows because that's like an obvious thing for them, but I can't do that after I said Aang, so I dunno.
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Beef Waifu posted:Maybe Aang from Avatar? Aang? I think you meant to say Toph Beifong. 
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mycot posted:Uh, Finn from Adventure Time? (There are even Adventure Time games!) Dunno if I could count that, because that's a game based on a TV. I guess I'm looking for american developers (or I guess non-japanese in general) purposely making a Snow or Vaan or Luffy, etc that are just always super positive when they make a protagonist.
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Tae posted:Has American audiences ever liked shounen-type happy-go-lucky main characters in non-japanese games? Like I'm legit trying to think of the last big game that had a non-broody/snarky Joss Whedon guy. I dunno, Nathan Drake is a pretty doofy guy (even if he kills people by the hundreds). I don't play a ton of western games, but a lot of them have faceless/design-your-own main characters with no personality as the protagonist. Bioware tends to have some snarky/goofy supporting characters, though.
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Um, Call of Duty, hello? My guy is always super postive when he's getting tons of killstreaks in online multiplayer match #200,329
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Crash Bandicoot is pretty happy-go-lucky.
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mario, that fucker. E: oh, wait, western. nevermind.
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Snow has a stupid name, stupid lines and possibly Nomura's worst character design. He wanted to be a teenage Barret, and Troy Baker did a good job hamming it up, but the deck was really stacked against him. Schwartzcough posted:For example, there's the scene where you get the Sword of Kings, which is supposed to be capable of cutting nethicite. Balthier convinces Ashe to test it out on the Dusk Shard (I think) that was now inert after blowing up the Leviathan and its fleet. Ashe is reluctant to give up her nuke, even though it's basically powerless now, but she does agree to it. Ashe winds back, and Rasler's ghost shows up over the nethicite and shakes his head. Ashe hesitates, then brings the sword crashing down... several inches from the Dusk Shard. Ashe says something like "this is the sword. It can cut nethicite; I know it" to which Baltier quips "if it ever finds its mark..." Alright I vaguely remember that sword thing. I'll concede that I missed some stuff. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Kajeesus posted:Snow has a stupid name, stupid lines and possibly Nomura's worst character design. He wanted to be a teenage Barret, and Troy Baker did a good job hamming it up, but the deck was really stacked against him. Look at this incredibly wrong poster who clearly hasn't played Dirge of Cerberus
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Beef Waifu posted:I honestly don't remember the last time we had a prominent main character that was an honest, happy-go-lucky goof who was well liked. Maybe Spider-Man, but that's been both a constant for like 50 years and he still incorporates being snarky into it. Maybe Aang from Avatar? 
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There are still a few about, Yuri Lowell was pretty chipper and confident all things considered, Zidane if you're okay to go back a few years and the Gullwings were like 90% happy-go-lucky teen exuberance.
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He said well liked.
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A Steampunk Gent posted:There are still a few about, Yuri Lowell was pretty chipper and confident all things considered, Zidane if you're okay to go back a few years and the Gullwings were like 90% happy-go-lucky teen exuberance. I said non-Japanese games.
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Tae posted:Look at this incredibly wrong poster who clearly hasn't played Dirge of Cerberus Ugh, rude. I'd clearly repressed all memories of that game and you just had to go remind a guy.
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Tae posted:I said non-Japanese games. The Champion of Kirkwall, Hawke
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Speaking of Hawke, I just started the DA games and while I know he has a bit of a dark history and all that, Alistair seems like a lot of fun. His cheerfulness and snarkiness in the face of all the crap he's been through/is going through is great. He also seems to be by far most people's favorite character from Origins. I got a long way to go in Origins however.
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NikkolasKing posted:Speaking of Hawke, I just started the DA games and while I know he has a bit of a dark history and all that, Alistair seems like a lot of fun. His cheerfulness and snarkiness in the face of all the crap he's been through/is going through is great. He also seems to be by far most people's favorite character from Origins. Alistair is literally written as a Joss Whedon character. I don't mean "similar to', I mean the writers explicitly and literally tried to mimic Buffy and Firefly when writing him. I can think of optimistic/hopeful characters in Western games but they're all from kids games. Stuff like Skylanders or whatever. It is sort of weird to realize I can't think of many otherwise, aside from the occasional minor side character who is probably comedic. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Cake Attack posted:which is troy baker, so it's always weird to me that people don't acknowledge that snow rules Aatrak new account detected.  Snow is a loving pedo.
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Mister Adequate posted:Aatrak new account detected.
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Endorph posted:serah is 18
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Endorph posted:serah is 18 uhuh
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... yeah?
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Endorph posted:... yeah? And Snow is 21. Seriously this is like the dumbest thing to try and bring up.
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a 21-year-old dating an 18-year-old isnt really pedophilia
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NikkolasKing posted:Speaking of Hawke, I just started the DA games and while I know he has a bit of a dark history and all that, Alistair seems like a lot of fun. His cheerfulness and snarkiness in the face of all the crap he's been through/is going through is great. He also seems to be by far most people's favorite character from Origins. If we're going with Bioware sidekicks, then there's definitely Vega from ME3. I personally dislike Alistair, but Corporal Beefcake was great.
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