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Lord Hydronium posted:Not sarcasm. The only times I've been through Oregon it was in the west, so my mental picture of everything north of, say, Santa Rosa is lots of trees. Yeah, the Cascades really trap all of that water in the west. You get interesting topography in the east though (and occasionally water too!).  (Painted Hills in the John Day Fossil Beds)  (The "columns" of the unincorporated community of Rome, Oregon)   (the aforementioned Summer Lake, which varies in depth) Do note that there's a reason why people don't live here - water is incredibly scarce. I think I'd like to live somewhere like Bend though, or at least I would if the average lows in July weren't in the 40s. computer parts fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Just to clarify, what's the reason Oregon wasn't targeted? Is it because it's low population except for Portland, which is close enough to the border to get destroyed by targets on Washington state? I guess that's kind of funny, since the only targets in Maine and Oregon are the area around their respective Portlands.
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Nameless_Steve posted:Just to clarify, what's the reason Oregon wasn't targeted? Yes, except also add in Eugene and Corvallis (both of which have major research institutions) and Salem, which is the capital. Oh and I think the one at the bottom is Medford?
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Woo I live next to a nuclear submarine basin and the air force base that is in charge of tracking all nuclear explosions globally, I'm going to be so vaporized instantly.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Woo I live next to a nuclear submarine basin and the air force base that is in charge of tracking all nuclear explosions globally, I'm going to be so vaporized instantly. Far from the worst fate in a nuclear war.
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DrSunshine posted:What would it take to make human habitation of Antarctica self-sustaining? Is there any significant geothermal activity there? I've heard that some bases have greenhouses, would it be possible to feed a population using an extensive enough greenhouse system? Not a scientist but the lack of sufficient nutrients and good soil would seem to be a problem too. You can import soil, sure, but I'm guessing probably not enough to reliably sustain a thriving community.
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I always find these maps amusing because of the size of the climate zones. Inverness, San Sebastian, and Melbourne have the same climate here; Boston and Budapest are in the same category as Edmonton and James Bay. Tokyo, Tampa, and Tulsa are in the same zone (although I've never been to Oklahoma so for all I know it feels like Japan). Yes, I'm aware that I'm criticizing a map with twenty-nine categories as being insufficiently granular. Ofaloaf posted:
The Fallout fan in me is also happy that Vegas wouldn't be totally screwed.
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SkySteak posted:Far from the worst fate in a nuclear war. I live almost exactly between the White House and US Congress. Gone in a millisecond.
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Maps of meat are still maps right? Right.   God's own butcher chart.  An idiots butcher chart.  Heresy most vile.
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Everywhere I've lived would be vaporized instantly. 1. LaGrange, GA: 40 miles north of Columbus, GA, where Ft Benning is. It's the largest infantry base in the US. 2. Valdosta, GA: 15 miles from Moody Air Force Base, which has a lot to do with the air wings of the US Atlantic/Caribbean fleets 3. St. Petersburg, Russia: Major city, major port, close to Russian naval base at Kronstadt (I think it's still active, I know it played a huge role in the siege of Leningrad in WW2) 4. Moscow, Russia: Capitol of the Russian Federation, plus many Russian Army and Air Force bases nearby. 5. Atlanta, GA: Not only a major city, but also has Dobbins Air Force Base 6. Seattle, WA: Not only a major city, but also just across Puget Sound from Bangor Naval Base and Kitsap Naval Base, which is the home port for one of the US Pacific fleets I believe. I've given up escaping from a nuclear holocaust. I can't seem to not live within an hour's drive of important military targets.
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Schizotek posted:Maps of meat are still maps right? Right. Fun fact: the SA front page's HTML is divided up into cuts of beef, like, the footer class is "rump" and the main article is "brisket" and each individual part is an "organ" 
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HonorableTB posted:Everywhere I've lived would be vaporized instantly. Moscow might be fine because that's where the Soviets put their one ABM site that ABM treaty allowed. We put ours in one of the Dakotas because that's where our missiles are.
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ABM systems don't work, and especially don't work against a strike using multiple ICBMs.
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doverhog posted:ABM systems don't work, and especially don't work against a strike using multiple ICBMs. Which means they function great as missile bait. So putting ours in the Dakotas is a great move. 
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I grew up in North Dakota in the 80s. I remember attack drills where we'd hide under our magical desks that were reinforced against nuclear attack. Once a year, we'd visit the fallout shelter in the basement, which was stocked with massive amounts of canned goods and other survivalist bric-a-brac. The state is ripe with ICBM silos, easily visible by perimeter fences surrounding what seems to be nothing, once you're off the main highways. There's also Minot and Grand Forks AFBs with B-52s and B-1s, as well as an air base at the Fargo airport. The Air Force and SAC practically owned the state.
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Albino Squirrel posted:I always find these maps amusing because of the size of the climate zones. Inverness, San Sebastian, and Melbourne have the same climate here; Boston and Budapest are in the same category as Edmonton and James Bay. Tokyo, Tampa, and Tulsa are in the same zone (although I've never been to Oklahoma so for all I know it feels like Japan). Sounds ridiculous, but one of these is near Inverness and one is near Melbourne:   They're so similar I've forgotten which is which already.
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Yeah, these climate classifications are of course somewhat broad, but they are general good models and the climate in these places is actually quite similar. In school we compared climographs of cities on different hemispheres, thousands of kilometers apart, and they looked nearly identical.
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duckmaster posted:Sounds ridiculous, but one of these is near Inverness and one is near Melbourne: 
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How do extreme temperatures fit into this, because I can't imagine anywhere in Scotland having ever hit 45C.
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Torrannor posted:Yeah, these climate classifications are of course somewhat broad, but they are general good models and the climate in these places is actually quite similar. In school we compared climographs of cities on different hemispheres, thousands of kilometers apart, and they looked nearly identical. Maybe this is just me, but for those kinds of maps maps I also just like being able to compare climates in places I don't know with climates in places I do know. Seeing that parts of Australia have a climate similar to Iberia is much more meaningful to me than seeing a random cluster of letters I have to look up in some key.
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TinTower posted:One of my favourite things about that map is that the Argentine claims on the Antarctic are mutually exclusive with the ones on the Falklands. 
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They're a semi-failed state that went bankrupt twice in the last two decades, how can they have so much imperialist drive?
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computer parts posted:Be warned that there's a reason why Oregon is not targeted: God that's a terrible map of Oregon. Columbia plateau labeled at the furthest southern extent (???) and Steens Mountain (singular fault block) listed as mountains.
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Argentina is also claiming all those islands? What the hell's on them?
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Albino Squirrel posted:Fair enough, but how are those in the same climate as this? Climates near the ocean generally have warm summers, and cool (but not cold) winters. They are characterized by a narrower annual range of temperatures than are encountered in other places at a comparable latitude, and generally do not have the extremely dry summers of Mediterranean climates.[2] Oceanic climates are most dominant in Europe, where they spread much farther inland than in other continents.[3] Oceanic climates can have much storm activity as they are located in the belt of the stormy westerlies. The annual range of temperatures is smaller than typical climates at these latitudes due to the constant stable marine air masses that pass through oceanic climates, which lack both very warm and very cool fronts. Admittedly I just ripped that from wikipedia 
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If you squint you can notice Szekelyland and it's subarctic climate. They can thank the Hungarian kings for settling them in that frozen hellhole tho
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Huh. Most of Serbia is marked as humid continental on that map, but when I check humid continental climate on Wikipedia, I get this:  However, looking up humid subtropical, I get this:  I wonder if the classification criteria changed recently, or if we're experiencing global warming first hand.
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Phlegmish posted:They're a semi-failed state that went bankrupt twice in the last two decades, how can they have so much imperialist drive? But enough about Russia.
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Schizotek posted:Maps of meat are still maps right? Right. http://i.imgur.com/rgSTtal.jpg Admin edit: mildly  , the PETA picture of a girl marked like a butcher's chart.
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Kurtofan posted:Argentina is also claiming all those islands? What the hell's on them? Possible resources under the ocean. It's common practice to claim lovely uninhabited rocks, because it extends your exclusive economic reach. You can't claim seafloor directly, you have to claim little crap shoals sticking out above the water. This is one of the two big reasons nations threaten each other with war over otherwise insignificant specks of land (the other is national pride).
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Here's that same climate map, just much larger. Ras Het posted:[timg]http://i.imgur.com/rgSTtal.jpg[/]
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Northern Maine looks like it would be fine since the map is assuming no strikes in Canada although that seems unlikely since NORAD plus most of Canada's population is situated in the area directly west of it.
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Phlegmish posted:They're a semi-failed state that went bankrupt twice in the last two decades, how can they have so much imperialist drive? What I'm surprised that more people don't mention whenever Argentina makes its perennial whinges about British imperialism is that with its continued occupation of the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia, whose aborigine Mapuche peoples have suffered under Buenos Aires' boot-heel for over 150 years and continue to be exploited and discriminated against today, Argentina is currently a much bigger colonial power than the UK is.
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Carbon dioxide posted:The world would be much better off if North-America had kept the Dutch language, and all North-Americans spoke Dutch till this day. Agreed. But only if they fixed the language like the South African settlers did. :klimin:
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baai veel te waar
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Being from the country itself, I can try to answer/comment on the topic (and hopefully not sound like too much of a shithead).Phlegmish posted:They're a semi-failed state that went bankrupt twice in the last two decades, how can they have so much imperialist drive? Kurtofan posted:Argentina is also claiming all those islands? What the hell's on them? kapparomeo posted:What I'm surprised that more people don't mention whenever Argentina makes its perennial whinges about British imperialism is that with its continued occupation of the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia, whose aborigine Mapuche peoples have suffered under Buenos Aires' boot-heel for over 150 years and continue to be exploited and discriminated against today, Argentina is currently a much bigger colonial power than the UK is.  .In the end the whole South Atlantic Islands and Antarctica things are only good enough for having a curiously long province name, some diplomatic run-ins every now and then, and a national holiday (Sovereignty Day). The war over the Islas Malvinas that everyone remember was done by a military government in its last throes trying to garner popular support. I don't remember if it was here or in the pictures thread, but the picture of the General Belgrano ship sinking? Yeah, that one was probably filled with young conscripts who were forced upon the war. (or maybe they were regular navy sailors and I'm full of poo poo, can't find a concrete answer )e: Have some brave soldiers going to rid the desertic wastes that belong to no one in particular, no siree, sure indeed 
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HonorableTB posted:Everywhere I've lived would be vaporized instantly. I've spent all my (admittedly rather short) life in either Washington D.C or Islamabad.
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I lived most of my life less than ten miles from the USA's only source of Tritium, now I live on Long Island.
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Phlegmish posted:They're a semi-failed state that went bankrupt twice in the last two decades, how can they have so much imperialist drive? How about all those Nazis they let in?
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