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LaughMyselfTo posted:IDK, I see claims like this made all the time, but I've never actually encountered anyone who openly, seriously used the Plinkett reviews as a substitute for having an intelligent opinion. I've seen people say, unironically, that they are waiting for Plinkett to review a film so they can have an opinion on it.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I've seen people say, unironically, that they are waiting for Plinkett to review a film so they can have an opinion on it. what swine
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ShoogaSlim posted:You guys don't have SMG on ignore? lol No, because his posts are amazing and entertaining as hell, and sometimes make me think. SMG is one of the best posters in CD.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Seeing the falcon ship flying around just feet above the ground looks really offputting, because it's not at all aerodynamic. Obviously, Star Wars has 'artifical gravity' and whatever, but now those already-hosed outer space physics are double-hosed by putting them in a planet's atmosphere. Hey, all these ships have shields, right? And they can make the shield be any shape they want, right? So who's to say there isn't a big invisible aerodynamic shape around every ship, lowering their drag coefficient and providing lift, and that's why they make bank turns like airplanes? Well, in an atmosphere anyway. In space they still make bank turns because it looks cool.
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LaughMyselfTo posted:IDK, I see claims like this made all the time, but I've never actually encountered anyone who openly, seriously used the Plinkett reviews as a substitute for having an intelligent opinion. Look (much) earlier in this thread.
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CountFosco posted:You're referencing a scene where a character hires bounty hunters to bring his enemies to heel as evidence of their goodness? Of course! The rebels are trying to restore the republic. You obviously can't have that. Star Wars has never been this polarized world in opposites, 'light' and 'dark' strictly correlating to Rebel versus Empire. It's Darth Vader against everyone else, and Luke's slow realization of that fact. TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I've seen people say, unironically, that they are waiting for Plinkett to review a film so they can have an opinion on it. The Plinkett films are basically Room 237. They're extremely well-edited, and provide food for thought, but it's an unreliable narrator. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Mazreal posted:what swine That's got nothing to do with elitism and everything to do with it being an incredibly retarded way to think, peace.
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LaughMyselfTo posted:Also, I met a rare person who agrees with me that ROTS<TPM today. Neither of us actually like any of the prequels, but we agree that TPM was the best of them because they still had, y'know, sets. TPM was the last movie Lucas put any effort into, I'll give it that. I still rank it below RotS in entertainment value. If anyone else here isn't super caught up in the whole auteur theory of filmmaking, I suggest reading The Secret History of Star Wars to gain some insight on how slapdash the entire series has been.
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Wow, this thread sure got lovely while I was away for Thanksgiving. Guess I'll have to make it better. Here's three more pages from Star Wars #1... 1978 MARVEL "Star Wars," issue #1, page 12:  I had completely forgotten about the existence of patches until I read this. They went out of fashion in the late 70s and never came back. Probably a good thing. These are "self-adhesive," but the ones I remembered had to be ironed or sewed on. Maybe iron-on is what "self-adhesive" means. I don't know, my mom put them on for me. Available payment methods: Bank Americard, Mastercharge. 1978 MARVEL "Star Wars," issue #1, page 14:  The continuation of the deleted Biggs scene from page 7. "What good is all your uncle's work, if he ends up merely a tenant soon -- slaving away for the greater glory of the Empire?" Well, he probably won't end up a charred skeleton. 1978 MARVEL "Star Wars," issue #1, page 15:  ...a soulless Imperial conference room. Are there conference rooms with souls? I defy anyone to read this dialogue without hearing the film actors' voices in their heads.
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Dan Didio posted:That's got nothing to do with elitism and everything to do with it being an incredibly retarded way to think, peace. but it has nothing to do with the quality of the plinkett reviews themselves
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This thread is enormous. On what page should I start, if I want to begin with the SMG analysis and commentary? I just read the last few pages and I'm pretty curious about his take on the whole thing... 
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The MSJ posted:Can someone post or link to the Dengar video again? Late to the Dengar party, but.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00UGZcv2tNA
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Riptor posted:but it has nothing to do with the quality of the plinkett reviews themselves Okay?
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I enjoy both SW and Plinkett reviews.
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The Plinkett reviews are great because they manage to do a long form critical analysis without becoming incredibly stale and boring to watch after 6 minutes. I dare you to sit through any other voiceover essay-style critique that clocks in at over an hour without killing yourself.
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Skull Knight posted:This thread is enormous. On what page should I start, if I want to begin with the SMG analysis and commentary? I just read the last few pages and I'm pretty curious about his take on the whole thing... Learn how to use a forum.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Of course! Vader also indemnifies Boba Fett against risk, which is a strange move for someone who kills subordinates when they fail him. If Solo dies from being frozen in Carbonite, and remember Solo is a nobody to Vader, he's just some rear end in a top hat who hangs around with the real prizes, Luke and Leia- the Empire (on Vader's say-so) will pay Fett for his trouble. Well, why would he do that if he is pure evil? That's a businessman move. It can't be because Fett is some kind of irreplaceable resource that he needs to keep happy, Vader has the entire Imperial Fleet at his command, surely that is worth a thousand Fetts.
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Skull Knight posted:This thread is enormous. On what page should I start, if I want to begin with the SMG analysis and commentary? I just read the last few pages and I'm pretty curious about his take on the whole thing... Ror posted:But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved SuperMechagodzilla.
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euphronius posted:I enjoy both SW and Plinkett reviews. Then you can't call yourself a fan of Plinkett reviews. The thing is you see, True Fans of Plinkett reviews don't actually like Plinkett reviews. This is all true.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:No, because his posts are amazing and entertaining as hell, and sometimes make me think. Lmao Anyway I rewatched the plinkett review of Revenge of the Sith and the opening about the trailers was hilarious considering the reactions to this trailer. Anything can happen!
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Are we still talking about Jizz because I got the latest Jizz releases on compact jizzc
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Excuse me but "Jedi Rocks" is not on the original motion picture soundtrack like that CD claims. "Lapti Nek" is. 
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Jerkface posted:Are we still talking about Jizz because I got the latest Jizz releases on compact jizzc You seem to be quite the Jizz connoisseur.
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Mogomra posted:You seem to be quite the Jizz connoisseur. You really need to collect jizz on vinyl. It's much warmer.
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Powered Descent posted:Hey, all these ships have shields, right? And they can make the shield be any shape they want, right? So who's to say there isn't a big invisible aerodynamic shape around every ship, lowering their drag coefficient and providing lift, and that's why they make bank turns like airplanes? We're talking about a series of movies that feature up-down aircraft using aerodynamic motion while dogfighting in the vacuum of space, while making loud noises in said vacuum. There is absolutely no reason to freak out over the same aircraft operating inside an atmosphere.
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Lincoln posted:I defy anyone to read this dialogue without hearing the film actors' voices in their heads. Why would you want to try? It has the single greatest line of dialogue in any of the films: "How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?" I love that guy.
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Kulkasha posted:We're talking about a series of movies that feature up-down aircraft using aerodynamic motion while dogfighting in the vacuum of space, while making loud noises in said vacuum. There is absolutely no reason to freak out over the same aircraft operating inside an atmosphere.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:People who believed ObiWan's lies about 'a more civilized age.' I like to imagine when he said there is no such thing as luck only the force that it meant Jar Jar was secretly a powerful force user.
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Vader also indemnifies Boba Fett against risk, which is a strange move for someone who kills subordinates when they fail him. Boba Fett is a bounty hunter for money, yet has to be warned against disintegrating his quarry. So how does one collect on a bounty when there's nothing left? It doesn't make Fett look badass, it makes him look like an idiot. I think Vader wasn't warning him, he was just trying to explain it to him like an exasperated adult does with a child. And how do we know that the stormtroopers in the trailer are bad guys? Maybe that armor is used by Republic troops now?
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Davros1 posted:And how do we know that the stormtroopers in the trailer are bad guys? Maybe that armor is used by Republic troops now? You're probably a bad guy if you're called a Sturmtruppen. Anyway, if Lucas took a bunch from Hidden Fortress to make the original Star Wars, what's the subtext of Hidden Fortress? That no one likes Kurosawa movies?
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I hope it's this and Luke is a "dark Jedi" that fights a rebellion against them.
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Gatts posted:The reason I found it comedic is because we have empty landscape full of sand and a comically overdone try hard voice over telling us something has arisen, a comedic beat, and then someone popping up breathing frantically and terrified in a bright desert environment with no context. There's very little connection between the two tones. Imagine if the voiceover was done during the scene when Sith is entering the dark forest. Yeah, this sums it up pretty good. I think it was that beat between the voiceover and him popping up suddenly that makes the default reaction for me a laugh instead of a flinch. Also, I had the exact same thought with Spaceballs. "Comb the desert!" Maxwell Lord posted:If the EU had worked along thematic lines instead of "this alien was a bounty hunter so his entire species is bounty hunters" it would have been a lot better. I just feel bad for the wife and kids of Manny Bothans. Lincoln posted:...a soulless Imperial conference room. Are there conference rooms with souls? It doesn't matter how soulless the conference room is, it still ain't got nothin' on a Mofference room.
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Ross posted:I hate Star Wars, reviews of Star Wars, and threads about Star Wars, but I enjoy posting in threads about Star Wars.  Then truly, you are the biggest Star Wars fan of them all.
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Davros1 posted:Boba Fett is a bounty hunter for money, yet has to be warned against disintegrating his quarry. So how does one collect on a bounty when there's nothing left? It doesn't make Fett look badass, it makes him look like an idiot. I think Vader wasn't warning him, he was just trying to explain it to him like an exasperated adult does with a child.
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Davros1 posted:Boba Fett is a bounty hunter for money, yet has to be warned against disintegrating his quarry. So how does one collect on a bounty when there's nothing left? It doesn't make Fett look badass, it makes him look like an idiot. I think Vader wasn't warning him, he was just trying to explain it to him like an exasperated adult does with a child. What do you mean "now"? The armor was always worn by Republic troops- there were two whole movies about this. I didn't post about "no disintegrations". I posted about the conversation in Cloud City where Vader and Fett discuss what happens if Solo dies in the carbonite. Look: quote:Boba Fett: What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot to me. Vader is making a business deal with a freelance employee. When Admirals in the Imperial Navy make a command decision he isn't inclined to make, but within their normal portfolio, he executes them without court martial and field promotes their replacements. By the way, what does it say about discipline in the Imperial Armed Forces that Vader can just show up, take command by fiat, and destroy any men or materiel he wants to pursue a single ship? Ruthless, sure. Evil? Let's look at another scene from the Empire Strikes Back: quote:Han Solo: He didn't even ask me any questions Vader captures a very high-ranking leader of the Rebellion, has him imprisoned and tortured, but doesn't gather any intelligence. Why? What a blown opportunity, assuming Vader wanted to support the Empire by any means necessary. Whole Star Destroyers were wiped out chasing the Millennium Falcon, but when he finally has Solo all he wants to do with him is test out his new toys on him. Watch the movie. When Luke is hanging off the platform in Cloud City, Vader attempts to cut a deal with him to overthrow the Emperor and rule the Galaxy as "Father and Son". How loyal is this guy to the Emperor, again? He seems very loyal to his son. Oh, wait, remember the beginning of the movie? The Rebel crew on Hoth was just about to close the blast doors before they froze to death when only Han Solo remembered that the super heroic Luke Skywalker who totally saved the Rebellion single handedly (haw haw) by destroying the Death Star and was a protege of the last remaining Jedi was not around. Everyone else who is not a Skywalker (Leia) or a Skywalker's property (Threepio and Artoo) couldn't care less.
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In A New Hope, the Imperial party line is that mysticism has no place in the brave new world. Only Tarkin, who is (from what the film leads us to believe) an old friend of Vader, gives any respect whatsoever to the Force. Even that is under the assumption that Vader is the last Jedi.
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I prefer to watch ANH backwards. Its about a military pilot that sucks a torpedo out of an explosion and puts a death star back together and then retires to be a farmer.
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Effectronica posted:In A New Hope, the Imperial party line is that mysticism has no place in the brave new world. Only Tarkin, who is (from what the film leads us to believe) an old friend of Vader, gives any respect whatsoever to the Force. Even that is under the assumption that Vader is the last Jedi. Isn't Tarkin the one who mocks his New Age religion?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Isn't Tarkin the one who mocks his New Age religion? The one Vader chokes? No that's another guy.
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