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Oh yeah and honorifics are loving terrible and the new voices all suck except for Mercer's, but it's still not Baker.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:44 |
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The only P4 character i like is Adachi.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:44 |
FauxGateau posted:What about bad SMT opinions? People love their persona, but I gotta get deeper. I think Isamu is an okay guy who really just needs a hug and occasionally a good smack. I never side with him, though.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:44 |
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wow those are bad opinions
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:45 |
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Endorph posted:wow those are bad opinions Yah, thanks.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:45 |
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Also I like Adachi and think he's an interesting character but on the other hand the way the games and even the fandom try to portray a ridiculously sexist, attempted rapist, multiple-time murderer as 'complex' and 'flawed' instead of just 'a shitheel' is Really Weird
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:47 |
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Matador was way too difficult and basically served to ruin Nocturne for all neurotypical players .
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:47 |
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I like p3 more than p4 in almost every way. Well, seeya.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:47 |
Neurion posted:I think Isamu is an okay guy who really just needs a hug and occasionally a good smack. I never side with him, though. Isamu has one of the best philosophies in any SMT game (second only to Yamato's), but i still prefer siding with Hikawa because Hikawa is way cooler, even if his Reason is kinda boring.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:47 |
Endorph posted:Also I like Adachi and think he's an interesting character but on the other hand the way the games and even the fandom try to portray a ridiculously sexist, attempted rapist, multiple-time murderer as 'complex' and 'flawed' instead of just 'a shitheel' is Really Weird Please do not attribute depth to the Cabbage Meme Man.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:47 |
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Endorph posted:Also I like Adachi and think he's an interesting character but on the other hand the way the games and even the fandom try to portray a ridiculously sexist, attempted rapist, multiple-time murderer as 'complex' and 'flawed' instead of just 'a shitheel' is Really Weird Did I say he wasn't a shitheel? You can have a lot of depth and still be acknowledged as a complete piece of poo poo.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:48 |
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Beef Waifu posted:Did I say he wasn't a shitheel? You can have a lot of depth and still be acknowledged as a complete piece of poo poo.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:49 |
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Beef Waifu posted:Speaking of Adachi, he's shockingly one of the P4 characters with the most depth and it's entirely because of these spin-offs and Golden that happened and it's cool it happened. This makes actually me interested in Golden and the spinoffs, because I only played Vanilla Persona 4 and his character from that is just a guy who shows up at the end and claims to be the villain and it's really uninteresting. Persona 4 has a bit of a janked up final act imo. Teddie is also very bad and never cool or interesting or good
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:53 |
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I thought smt iv was extremely underwhelming.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:55 |
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Ultimax's Adachi story is really cool because you get into his head and he's not fighting for redemption or anything, he's fighting for himself because he's a selfish rear end in a top hat and wants to still be known for his murders. It was the bomb.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:56 |
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I never liked Teddie much but I played the Japanese version first and Kappei Yamaguchi's voice is literally a war crime.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:57 |
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My bad Persona opinion is that I want to see Persona 5.ImpAtom posted:I never liked Teddie much but I played the Japanese version first and Kappei Yamaguchi's voice is literally a war crime. Teddie works better in English. His voice acting is godawful and his dialogue is localized well, and it has the added bonus of implying that everyone in the real world just sort of shrugs off his weirdness because he's foreign.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:57 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I thought smt iv was extremely underwhelming. Yeah, uh, I'm agreeing with this. Coming off Nocturne and P4G it just felt kinda bad.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:59 |
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Yeah, people who faun over Kanji like crazy are people I don't want to be around, and the same goes for people who treat Naoto like an item. Also, Teddie isn't that great, but he's still alright, even if he can be a pain in the rear end.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 23:59 |
Also I don't mind it when bosses immediately cast Dekunda/Dekaja in response to buffs and debuffs.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:01 |
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The new artwork in SMT 4 is mostly good even Medusa is alright, the snake skeleton hair is cool
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:05 |
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Neurion posted:Also I don't mind it when bosses immediately cast Dekunda/Dekaja in response to buffs and debuffs. Well, if anything, it's one less turn they spend hitting you.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:05 |
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I don't remember a single line of dialogue from smt 3, 4, or dds sawmoorai Ruggington fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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Ruggington posted:I don't remember a single line of dialogue from smt 3, 4, or dds We're taking Sera and going to Nirvana, so get your snobby bitch-rear end out of the way!
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:08 |
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I bet the P-team is regretting the new epilogue designs for the persona 4 crew since they change back to how they look originally for P4DAN. They all look kinda weird, anyway.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:11 |
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brainwrinkle posted:The new artwork in SMT 4 is mostly good this is the worst opinion in this entire thread
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:11 |
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I thought DAN was still before the Epilogue?
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:12 |
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Beef Waifu posted:Here are my bad persona opinions. I've only seen the anime (the vanilla anime) and played Ultimax Persona 4-wise and I love it. I was spoiled on Adachi going in but I liked the way he was handled structurally in the anime.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:13 |
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Pushing Namatame into the TV is the logical conclusion to the whole arc. The game was about stopping the killer. It's just that the characters assumed taking him to the police would be enough to stop him, and it clearly wasn't. If Namatame HAD been the killer, he could have walked out of the police station, gone to a new town, and started pushing people into tvs again. Killing him to prevent that wasn't crazy at all. poo poo, even though Adachi confesses to the murders, a competent defense lawyer might still be able to get him off. As in, "My client claims he murdered these women by throwing them through a TV into another dimension filled with monsters. His psych tests confirm that he's a disturbed personality, and let me test this TV here--nope, no other dimension here. The defense pleads insanity." I thought the theme of the game was going to be "what is justice", how far you go to pursue it, what is justified force, stuff like that. Turns out it was "Trust your friends and everything will be A-OKAY!" Vengarr fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 2, 2014 |
# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:14 |
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Beef Waifu posted:Oh yeah and honorifics are loving terrible THANK YOU
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:14 |
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I'm going to come right out and say it. I kind of like the having physical skills use HP thing. Half because most of everyone who's good with physical skills tends to have a lot of health and terrible SP.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:15 |
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hubris.height posted:THANK YOU I agree, but i'm broken and now can't have it any other way. The english dub of the anime was particular grinding.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:16 |
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Argent Cinereus posted:I'm going to come right out and say it. I kind of like the having physical skills use HP thing. Half because most of everyone who's good with physical skills tends to have a lot of health and terrible SP. who doesn't like this who do I have to fight
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:16 |
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The honorifics are a little weird, especially since I tend to use my very Western name when playing these and having kun and sempai and such added it to it is a little awkward. But it fits with a ton of other things to enforce the whole YOU ARE IN JAPAN thing. Better than "Eat your hamburgers, Apollo" shenanigans at any rate.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:19 |
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without honorifics, no one will call me senpai. I don't want to live in a world like that
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:22 |
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projecthalaxy posted:The honorifics are a little weird, especially since I tend to use my very Western name when playing these and having kun and sempai and such added it to it is a little awkward. But it fits with a ton of other things to enforce the whole YOU ARE IN JAPAN thing. Better than "Eat your hamburgers, Apollo" shenanigans at any rate. gently caress I want the persona 5 translation to take place in LA
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:25 |
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projecthalaxy posted:The honorifics are a little weird, especially since I tend to use my very Western name when playing these and having kun and sempai and such added it to it is a little awkward. But it fits with a ton of other things to enforce the whole YOU ARE IN JAPAN thing. Better than "Eat your hamburgers, Apollo" shenanigans at any rate. Tons of media takes place in Japan and gets away without adding honorifics. It really serves no purpose other than to appeal to the mega hyper weebs (who are going to be pirating the game to play with japanese audio anyways)
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:27 |
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Cake Attack posted:without honorifics, no one will call me senpai. I don't want to live in a world like that I prefer Senpai to Leader at least. It's too stiff, they might as well call you "Dear Leader" at that point. Boss would be best, then you could pretend you are playing Metal Gear Solid: The High School Years. Ibram Gaunt posted:Tons of media takes place in Japan and gets away without adding honorifics. It really serves no purpose other than to appeal to the mega hyper weebs (who are going to be pirating the game to play with japanese audio anyways) It's probably easier from a localization standpoint. You don't need to dial in on every change of honorific, debate it what it means for the two characters' relationship, and then come up with a culture-appropriate analog for the shift via dialog.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:27 |
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I still maintain that "hoss" or "chief" would answer.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:29 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 19:49 |
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Alright here's the other half. Persona 3 is a bad game with a dumb gameplay system. Half of the game has automated AI which is so dumb like four different memes centered around it and then some guy will say "It was fine for me" despite the fact Akihiko probably used maziodyne at some point in his run to reflect back on his team and knock down Yukari. The Ai settings only help so much and the Ai will take priority in healing lower health characters over the leader despite leader death being instant game over, speaking of the leader. The main character's design is dumb and boring and so are his lovely persona. I liked Junpei, Yukari and Fuuka a lot because despite all of them being flawed they had personality unlike Mitsuru, Akihiko, and Ken who are all void of character. It took spinoffs to even give Akihiko a character and now he's entertaining. Meanwhile the actual cool and interesting upperclassman was a plot device until the non-canon version of the PSP game and dies in a month for no reason other than to kickstart the character development of two other dull characters. Strega have no point in the story other than to show the Kirijo group is bad and evil and to just be obstacles to the group. Chidori is the only one worth a drat and I'm happy it's canon that she is alive so she and Junpei can actually be happy and someone's life in P3 doesn't end in loving misery. The final boss sucks because not only is it piss easy, but it is stupidly long. Whoever thinks 14 phases of the same poo poo is a good idea is dumb. Half of the S. links suck and Aigis is dumb. I don't understand the love of the dog either. I'm a dog person and even I think the dog is boring as sin, it doesn't even talk like Scooby-Doo. I never understood why people feel Yukari hates Junpei because she's always around him and still pals around with him, they're basically the jokester and straight man of the game and they are the only paid that aren't dysfunctional and act like friends. Pretty much all of P3's quality is in the PSP version of the female main character's route which will never be canon because it wasn't the original version. The girl can link with Shinjiro and date him, chill out with Theo, and talk to Vincent but nope. Speaking of Vincent, Catherine is better than P3 and P4 and P2 has a better cast than every persona game combined, it's a shame about the game part and who gives a gently caress about Persona 1. There I'm done, hope you enjoyed my bad opinions.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 00:31 |