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I mean Scotland not the USA. I have a university class just now that is about how Computing Science is taught in high schools, and its real bad to see how they are at the tail end of reforming the content, but still they do all programming in VB
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Forgall posted:I'm actually in similar situation in that I'm looking for remote work, and wouldn't mind low-ish wage as long as it's livable. I'd be curious to hear about how it works out for you. don't take a cut to work remote. take a cut maybe because you get other things, or maybe a longer probationary rate, but don't take a permanent cut in salary for working remotely.
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Valeyard posted:I mean Scotland not the USA. I have a university class just now that is about how Computing Science is taught in high schools, and its real bad to see how they are at the tail end of reforming the content, but still they do all programming in VB when i were a kid it was bbc basic
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tef posted:when i were a kid it was bbc basic There are still a lot of places here that forgo VB for True BASIC
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Shaggar posted:theres a lot of stuff in vs that sucks. no maven, back+forward buttons on ur mouse, no maven, intellisense is garbage compared to eclipse autocomplete, nuget is poo poo, and also theres no maven. why use maven when you have Team Foundation Server? it even supports git! and apparently you can use maven with visual studio, the instructions have the most appropriate image too!
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tef posted:don't take a cut to work remote. take a cut maybe because you get other things, or maybe a longer probationary rate, but don't take a permanent cut in salary for working remotely.  I'm curious about how cheap are companies from US/other western countries when hiring remote workers from third world shitholes. I mean, they wouldn't be doing that if that wasn't saving them money, but just how exploitative are they?
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can a better programmer explain to me the difference between using type erasure to implement generics and... whatever the converse is what little I understand is that the type erasure step is like the compiler using the generic definition like a template with the generic types punched out or some poo poo
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tef posted:when i were a kid it was bbc basic bbc the radio and tv people?
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triple sulk posted:Speaking of C# I'm most likely going to take an offer for a role where I'd be using it. The money's bad for the industry because of where the company is based (it's not in the US; it's still a very livable wage) but for personal reasons I'm stuck with remote work right now which limits my options. At the very least I wouldn't have use Ruby and I've legitimately wanted to get into C# for a while. c# is fantastic you should not kill yourself yet.
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hobbesmaster posted:why use maven when you have Team Foundation Server? it even supports git! tfs is not a maven replacement
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prefect posted:bbc the radio and tv people? and bbc the microcomputer, yep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro
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triple sulk posted:The money's bad for the industry because of where the company is based (it's not in the US; it's still a very livable wage) but for personal reasons I'm stuck with remote work right now which limits my options. Sounds good enough
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AWWNAW posted:can a better programmer explain to me the difference between using type erasure to implement generics and... whatever the converse is Other approach is called reified generics and it's one .net uses. .net runtime knows what the actual type of object in your List<T> is, and you can get that information if you need it. Forgall fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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triple sulk posted:Speaking of C# I'm most likely going to take an offer for a role where I'd be using it. The money's bad for the industry because of where the company is based (it's not in the US; it's still a very livable wage) so you are being reverse-outsourced you're gonna live in a major city in a high-cost country, and work for a software firm that pays peanuts and doesn't particularly care about your experience, overseas this does not sound like a very good deal
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someone buy bsd a ferengi av tia
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don't use VS without resharper
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:so you are being reverse-outsourced In 6-7 months I will probably be living in a low(er) cost city. It's  .
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hobbesmaster posted:https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/4b286b9c-4dd5-416b-b143-e31d36dc622b neat I'll try that another thing that sucks about vs is the solution explorer doesn't show which files have compile errors and the text editor doesn't have the little red marks in the margin to show where errors are. the errors list window isn't nearly as useful
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also it doesn't detect a lot of errors until you build unlike eclipse which is like always building and checking ur code.
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HTML5 posted:don't use VS without resharper
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but vs is free and resharper costs money
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Series DD Funding posted:a public company hired me to make accounting software. any tips for doing it all in an excel spreadsheet? the excel api is trash and the documentation is even worse. idk what sort of thing your guys want, but there's a good chance it'll be a plugin which does stuff to an open workbook. don't make the mistakes we did and have sheets which have both input options and outputs on them, or encourage users to mess around with layout and formatting on those sheets. Once they start using them like that you'll have to take account of all their hosed up layout needs and they'll make you format it all automatically too. distortion park fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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hello friends please weigh in on the advisability of moving from back-end java development to front-end html5 and flex stuff wrt career poo poo right now I'm team lead in an area where there will be less focus (i.e. a smaller team) next year whereas the UI stuff is getting more attention/people so leading that would be better in terms of progress within the company. Buuuut thinking ahead to future jobs, everything I've read indicates that front end work doesn't pay as well so it seems pointless to rack up experience with it p.s. I've never done UI stuff before !!
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:hello friends please weigh in on the advisability of moving from back-end java development to front-end html5 and flex stuff wrt career poo poo no dont
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i have been doing ui stuff for the better part of a decade and i enjoy it. but i'm also a lovely programmer so back end dev is harder for me. and i am also not making six figures yet
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:hello friends please weigh in on the advisability of moving from back-end java development to front-end html5 and flex stuff wrt career poo poo flex?! you mean "resume poison?"
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Bloody posted:but vs is free and resharper costs money I can get clean fill dirt for free too but I prefer to pay for actual food
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:hello friends please weigh in on the advisability of moving from back-end java development to front-end html5 and flex stuff wrt career poo poo
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rotor posted:I can get clean fill dirt for free too but I prefer to pay for actual food yeah lemme pay 150 dollars for a tool to arguably improve idiot spare time project work experience lol, not (intellisense is fine)
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tef posted:i kinda picked up a go program at work and it was "eh this isn't totally awful to use" sounds like you just haven't found the awful parts yet
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:hello friends please weigh in on the advisability of moving from back-end java development to front-end html5 and flex stuff wrt career poo poo flex smells like adobe. I don't know if it is adobe or not but it triggers adobe in my brain so it probably does for others which means its bad. btw I love knockout.js its so loving good. I just had to make a change to a thing and I was thinking it was gonna be hard but then I realized knockout made a easy way to do it and blam done in like 5 minutes.
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triple sulk posted:In 6-7 months I will probably be living in a low(er) cost city. It's lol did your girlfriend leave you
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rotor posted:flex?! you mean "resume poison?" yeah an EOL language which I would have to learn even while the company is phasing it out in favour of html5 literally the only reason I'm considering it is because it may lead to a better raise in the new year and maybe just to get some xp in UI stuff but it sounds bad long term so V  V
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tef posted:someone buy bsd a ferengi av tia i'm not sure i like where you're going with this the ferengi were an extraordinarily long series of thinly-veiled antisemitic jokes
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ui stuff is hard as gently caress. it's hard to learn. it's hard to work with. it requires you to dabble in other fields, e.g. graphic design. and yet we do it, because it's important. it's the thing users interact with the most (duh) so why is front-end so low on the totem pole for pay and respect?
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dear terrible programmer thread: if you're registering for a thing, then press 'log out' and get a dialog box saying 'are you sure? you're not registered yet!'. there are two options: cancel and continue. can you guess what each of them does?
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Bloody posted:Someone should write a coffee script style thing for python that gives it c style syntax just write your python in god's own language, lisp
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:hello friends please weigh in on the advisability of moving from back-end java development to front-end html5 and flex stuff wrt career poo poo front end loving blowwwwwwwws
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ui stuff is hard as gently caress. it's hard to learn. it's hard to work with. it requires you to dabble in other fields, e.g. graphic design.
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AlsoD posted:dear terrible programmer thread: if you're registering for a thing, then press 'log out' and get a dialog box saying 'are you sure? you're not registered yet!'. there are two options: cancel and continue. can you guess what each of them does? continue goes to registration, cancel goes to registration.
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