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Joe Law: Jun 30, 2008

i took a "modern programming" course last semester. it advertised android programming! actually it was 90% swing applications with a quick chess android app tacked on the end.

# ? Dec 3, 2014 01:32

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CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

Joe Law posted:

i took a "modern programming" course last semester. it advertised android programming! actually it was 90% swing applications with a quick chess android app tacked on the end.

my modern programming course in college had prolog and ML in it

# ? Dec 3, 2014 01:32

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Joe Law posted:

i took a "modern programming" course last semester. it advertised android programming! actually it was 90% swing applications with a quick chess android app tacked on the end.

sounds about right yeah

# ? Dec 3, 2014 01:32

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

uncurable mlady posted:

circa 2014 maybe

# ? Dec 3, 2014 01:35

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

ui stuff is hard as gently caress. it's hard to learn. it's hard to work with. it requires you to dabble in other fields, e.g. graphic design.

and yet we do it, because it's important. it's the thing users interact with the most (duh)

so why is front-end so low on the totem pole for pay and respect?

because it has a higher ratio of women doing it, obviously

# ? Dec 3, 2014 01:38

pram: Jun 10, 2001

ui is low on the totem pole because its super low entry

# ? Dec 3, 2014 01:50

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

pram posted:

ui is low on the totem pole because its super low entry

and people don't think about good UIs, they only think about bad ones

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:04

Papes: Apr 13, 2010; There's always something at the bottom of the bag.

im a terrible programmer but i think my phone interview with google went pretty well

, maybe they'll let me keep this farce up for an onsite.

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:05

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Eve online

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:05

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

Stringent posted:

because it has a higher ratio of women doing it, obviously

this is almost certainly it

programming's increase in value directly correlates with how more men got into it in the 70s on

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:07

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

pram posted:

ui is low on the totem pole because its super low entry

or more likely, low consequence. nobody ever took out a database table with a bad stylesheet (yet).

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:12

pram: Jun 10, 2001

yeah its because women. not the glut of people with desktop publishing degrees. not the ux boot camps for idiots. not because its an incredibly oversaturated market.

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:13

pram: Jun 10, 2001

Stringent posted:

or more likely, low consequence. nobody ever took out a database table with a bad stylesheet (yet).

its all bootstrap anyway

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:14

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

pretty much any idiot can make a webapp

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:15

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

and let me tell you, i'm not just any idiot

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pram: Jun 10, 2001

a field where knowing LESS variables and mixins are considered a rly advanced skill

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:17

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

my modern programming course in college had prolog and ML in it

use C# u can even give your lovely one of tools a GUI real quick. if u aint on windows then idk maybe you would like java better

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:20

power botton: Nov 2, 2011

i prefer sass over less

# ? Dec 3, 2014 02:20

Janitor Prime: Jan 22, 2004; PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean; Fun Shoe

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

yo yospos, i need a new language. I've been a C programmer for a long time now and i find that i need to write one-off tools and poo poo to process data that's sort of a pain to do a lot of in C. ive used ruby to do some poo poo and while its ok, it loving sucks when it comes to concurrency and robinius or whatever sucks because while it supports threading, its IO is dog slow for whatever reason.

i need something that is relatively fast, has proper concurrency (no global locks), has some sort of notion of iterators or co-routines or whatever, pattern matching and built in regular expressions or whatever for string matching

its gotta be cross platform. static typing is preferred. so far all I've come across is nimrod (and i really like it) but i feel like too much is changing too much still to be my go-to language.

start throwing ideas ta me.

scala ?

# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:24

pram: Jun 10, 2001

hes being a big baby because hes literally describing go

# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:26

pram: Jun 10, 2001

speaking of go i found this sweet rpc framework today it looks cool

https://github.com/koding/kite

# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:30

Elder Postsman: Aug 30, 2000; i used hot bot to search for "teens"

wait i though go was that language i used back on my apple //e to draw like lines and circles on the screen????

# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:33

pram: Jun 10, 2001

nah thats logo ;D

# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:35

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Is LOGO Turing-complete or what?

# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:58

pseudorandom name: May 6, 2007

Apparently it is a Lisp. Who knew?

# ? Dec 3, 2014 08:13

dbcooper: Mar 21, 2008; Yams Fan

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

yo yospos, i need a new language. I've been a C programmer for a long time now and i find that i need to write one-off tools and poo poo to process data that's sort of a pain to do a lot of in C. ive used ruby to do some poo poo and while its ok, it loving sucks when it comes to concurrency and robinius or whatever sucks because while it supports threading, its IO is dog slow for whatever reason.

i need something that is relatively fast, has proper concurrency (no global locks), has some sort of notion of iterators or co-routines or whatever, pattern matching and built in regular expressions or whatever for string matching

its gotta be cross platform. static typing is preferred. so far all I've come across is nimrod (and i really like it) but i feel like too much is changing too much still to be my go-to language.

start throwing ideas ta me.

Not sure how much data, what type or how many sources (I'm assuming files).

One-off tasks, process data, efficient I/O, string matching, cross platform and stable sounds like Perl 5.

Just make sure you

code:

use strict;
use warnings;

# ? Dec 3, 2014 10:01

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

dbcooper posted:

Just make sure you
code:
don't use perl;
ever;
for anything;
i'm serious;

# ? Dec 3, 2014 10:10

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

come on, perl(1). i said not EVER, for ANYTHING. i expect *.pl to be deleted from my system. DO WHAT I MEAN.

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BONGHITZ: Jan 1, 1970

only a churl would use perl

# ? Dec 3, 2014 10:12

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

CPColin posted:

Is LOGO Turing-complete or what?

yes

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/v1-toc2.html

# ? Dec 3, 2014 10:33

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

pram posted:

speaking of go i found this sweet rpc framework today it looks cool

https://github.com/koding/kite

edit misread

tef fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Dec 3, 2014

# ? Dec 3, 2014 10:35

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

me on discovering that the "go" language is actually intended for real-world use, not just as a prototype: :mad:

srsly, sorry pram, it's real bad

# ? Dec 3, 2014 10:37

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

pram posted:

a field where knowing LESS variables and mixins are considered a rly advanced skill

*fewer variables

# ? Dec 3, 2014 11:38

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

Which one's go? I keep thinking it's like better obj-c but that's swift right? Does go compete with c++ or c# or what? Seriously I can't keep track of all these fad langs

# ? Dec 3, 2014 11:47

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

qntm posted:

*fewer variables

# ? Dec 3, 2014 11:48

computer toucher: Jan 8, 2012

AlsoD posted:

exactly wrong, continue lets you continue registering (rather than continue logging out) and cancel logs you out because you're cancelling the registration. is it just me or is that really confusing?

it was signing up for some optional service after already having an account

You are in the middle of action A. You initiate action B, and get asked whether you wish to continue or cancel - that should choose whether you cancel or continue B, not A. So Cancel should take you back to A and continue finish B, which is logging out. But then again you shouldn't have the option to "log out" when you're not logged in.

# ? Dec 3, 2014 12:09

power botton: Nov 2, 2011

qntm posted:

*fewer variables

lol

# ? Dec 3, 2014 12:18

Lord Of Texas: Dec 26, 2006

rotor posted:

the lovely thing about front end work is that everyone gets to have an opinion. if you're working on Hadoop, no one from HR is gonna come up and ask why you can't use 30 buckets instead of 24 in your k-means analysis. but every goddamn shitbag in the loving company has Opinions about where you put the goddamn "more" button

We call these people "Jr. UX" and yeah it is loving annoying. Another symptom when you give non-technical managers a ton of money and they hire in a ton of people with nothing to do other than justify their existence.

# ? Dec 3, 2014 13:18

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

ugh i hate interviewing candidates for a specific language

i'm not even sure what i'd ask a python candidate aside from comprehensions, generators, and decorators

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power botton: Nov 2, 2011

Blinkz0rz posted:

ugh i hate interviewing candidates for a specific language

i'm not even sure what i'd ask a python candidate aside from comprehensions, generators, and decorators

ask them why they didnt specialize in a good language

# ? Dec 3, 2014 14:18

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