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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:But then again, there's only so much you can do when 2.5 hours into the first Hobbit film, this conversation is an actual thing that happens: Murder whoever said this 
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echoplex posted:Watching TLW as an adult made me laugh - because the secondary antagonist says "I'm off, laters" right before the climax and then he actually leaves. That's some bold script writing. I don't really feel like he's an antagonist. Maybe at first a little until the two sides are forced together, but he's barely even on the side of the InGen dude who wants to capture all the dinos to bring back to America. All he really cares about is being able to hunt a T-Rex. I think his arc ends perfectly fine. He wanted to hunt the T-Rex, he eventually gets his chance but the victory is kind of ruined for him since his friend died, and he's also just not used to like. EVERYONE around him dying, since he says "I've spent enough time in the company of death". I imagine his normal hunting trips don't usually end with like half of the people he was with just now dead. achillesforever6 posted:He's the worst and the reason that everyone gets hosed in the first place. I like him too, I especially like all the banter between him, Malcom and Eddie. Him sabotaging the InGen's cages and releasing all the dinosaurs didn't gently caress anything up but the camp, and I guess the tree that Roland was waiting in while he hunted. What hosed everything up was Roland baiting mama and papa T-Rex. All hell broke loose once that happened. This sounds like I'm contradicting the first part of my post but Roland wouldn't have even been there if it wasn't for the InGen Dino Capture Party, Peter is the antagonist and he never really learns his lesson, even when a T-Rex is rampaging through a city. The only characters I can say I'm not a huge fan of, are the daughter who felt just kind of forced into the movie so you could have a kid be in danger (even though you knew she'd never die) and Sarah who was just kind of boring (I blame Julianne Moore for that. I'm not a fan of her). They're still alright. Really the only thing I can say I hate in Lost World, even worse than the Gymnastics Attack on the raptor, is this: 
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TLW's greatest contribution to my life was Chaos Island, a PC Warcraft II clone with dinos instead of orcs. They got the entire original cast to do voice over work for their parts, which in 1997 blew my mind. That and Trespasser, albeit for completely different reasons.
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I like that the most tense bit in TLW comes from a slowly breaking window rather than anything dinosaur related.
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Macaluso posted:The only characters I can say I'm not a huge fan of, are the daughter who felt just kind of forced into the movie so you could have a kid be in danger (even though you knew she'd never die) and Sarah who was just kind of boring (I blame Julianne Moore for that. I'm not a fan of her). They're still alright. I feel like Julianne Moore could have been right for that role, but had to work with a weak screenplay. In the novel, the character was a completely practical, strong female, and I think for the screenplay she was feminized and softened quite a bit, which just didn't work out. It needed to be more Ellen Ripley, less Ms Doolittle.
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Hedrigall posted:Murder whoever said this You develop a rather thick skin once you've had to endure a screening of The Phantom Menace with a little kid who yells "Go Luke!" whenever Jake Lloyd is on screen.
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BiggerBoat posted:That's a pretty good idea. Slightly off-topic but I'd love to have an "Isolation" style game for alot of big franchise's like Terminator,Predator and Friday the 13th.
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Thank you people who responded to my post, I'm glad I'm not alone in feeling like I have specialist knowledge compared to other people to understand the sequence of a franchises' story. gently caress Hollywood. (Not film making mind you, just the business side of Hollywood)Avril Lavigne posted:It's a movie ABOUT a reboot of Jurassic Park. Best response right here! BTW You know China still loves you Avril.
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Macaluso posted:Really the only thing I can say I hate in Lost World, even worse than the Gymnastics Attack on the raptor, is this: What am I supposed to be seeing here that makes you hate it? 
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When Ian leaves, Hammond counts out the members on his team on his fingers like a preschooler who just learned to count and then is like  like he finally learned how to count up all the way to 3. It's just a dumb moment that feels like they lingered the camera on the actor too long and he didn't know what else to do
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Hammond was pretty much a child in a rich old man's body.
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The worst part of TLW was: * Sarah Harding follows a group to dinosaurs and touches a baby. * Camera malfunctions, dinosaurs try to murder sarah harding, who survives * Vince Vaughn lights up a cigarette * Harding yells at him to put it out, "We're here to observe, not interact!" YOU JUST TOUCHED A BABY DINOSAUR
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echoplex posted:Watching TLW as an adult made me laugh - because the secondary antagonist says "I'm off, laters" right before the climax and then he actually leaves. That's some bold script writing.
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IMB posted:* Sarah Harding follows a group to dinosaurs and touches a baby. How many Sarahs do you think are in this island
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IMB posted:The worst part of TLW was Well more like the film starts getting rewound into the canister. But I see your point.
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IMB posted:The worst part of TLW was: The big theme of the movie, taken from the book, is that it's impossible to observe nature without interacting with it. This is comically exaggerated in the film because it's a comedy, but the point is that the environmentalists are dumb for trying to preserve a state of nature that doesn't exist. That's tied in with the theme of "artificial" family units (Malcolm with his adopted daughter, the transgendered T-Rex and his mate, Roland and Ayjay) - as a contrast to Hammond being betrayed by his nephew. The artificiality reaches a peak at the end of the film, when it just turns batshit and Malcolm is driving around in the car from Last Action Hero, quipping one-liners amid references to Godzilla and (probably) Speed 2: Cruise Control.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That's tied in with the theme of "artificial" family units (Malcolm with his adopted daughter Wait, what? Yeah, I know she's black and he's white, but I thought she was just supposed to be mixed? Did I misunderstand some dialogue? Malcolm really, really doesn't seem like the kind to adopt a kid.
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oddium posted:How many Sarahs do you think are in this island Off topic, but I wish I could 5 star posts
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I don't recall it ever being said that she was adopted in the movie. Malcolm says in the first movie that he has a number of children with different mothers, and I'm sure he mentions her mother at some point in The Lost World.
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IMB posted:The worst part of TLW was: Sarah's an idiot, or did you think "bring a bleeding child to our only safe shelter so its 40 foot long parents will come for it" was a GOOD idea?
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She's not adopted.
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I just wanted someone to reply "hey idiot, you just literally touched a dinosaur and then had to survive their tail attack by diving into an old dead tree." That would have been enough.
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Peanut President posted:Sarah's an idiot, or did you think "bring a bleeding child to our only safe shelter so its 40 foot long parents will come for it" was a GOOD idea?
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achillesforever6 posted:I thought that was Vince Vaughn's character's idea? Of course Sarah didn't just tell him no and drop the loving T-Rex baby. I don't remember whose idea it was but you'd think the animal behaviorist who just spent like 5 years living with lions in africa or whatever would know better.
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Stahlgeist posted:I don't recall it ever being said that she was adopted in the movie. Malcolm says in the first movie that he has a number of children with different mothers, and I'm sure he mentions her mother at some point in The Lost World. It's left unspoken, the same way Roland and Ayjay are "best friends". She could be adopted or like a stepdaughter, or whatever.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It's left unspoken, the same way Roland and Ayjay are "best friends". She could be adopted or like a stepdaughter, or whatever. No it's not. She's his full biological daughter.
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Don't expect another SMG post for 48 hours.
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Canonically? In the film, he just refers to 'her mother', and nothing is stated one way or the other.AdmiralViscen posted:Don't expect another SMG post for 48 hours. ?
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She talks about how he likes to make kids not take care of them. She's definitely his illegitimate daughter.
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PresidentBeard posted:She talks about how he likes to make kids not take care of them. She's definitely his illegitimate daughter. It doesn't matter in the slightest whether she's biologically his daughter or not. In fact, I bet SMG can weave that theme into his/her analysis.
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Now, the characters in Jurassic Park III (sorry, I mean Juras/i/ /ark) are all obnoxiously awful, except for Alan Grant. 50 minutes in and they're still calling out loudly to each other despite this having led to the deaths of three characters.
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Octy posted:Now, the characters in Jurassic Park III (sorry, I mean Juras/i/ /ark) are all obnoxiously awful, except for Alan Grant. 50 minutes in and they're still calling out loudly to each other despite this having led to the deaths of three characters. They're supposed to be. JP3 is Grant's story. Grant just wants to be left alone in his dirt.
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Peanut President posted:They're supposed to be. JP3 is Grant's story. Grant just wants to be left alone in his dirt. Not if enough money is involved.
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Well I mean the only reason he wants to go to Jurassic Park is because Hammond promises to fund his dig for 3 years. Grant is a digger he doesn't want to do tours and poo poo he's busy.
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Octy posted:Now, the characters in Jurassic Park III (sorry, I mean Juras/i/ /ark) are all obnoxiously awful, except for Alan Grant. 50 minutes in and they're still calling out loudly to each other despite this having led to the deaths of three characters. Eh, I like 'em. I'd like to think I wouldn't be as dumb as them, and they certainly do immoral things, but I've never gotten the complaints that they're unlikable. Being unlikable is a very different thing from being stupid and unscrupulous.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I think the problem with Roland Tembo is that Spielberg is clearly in love with this pulpy, over the top great white hunter archetype but at the same time politically opposed to everything he stands for. So Roland's kind of got to be the bad guy but is secretly really honourable and basically likeable. Kinda. Well, we didn't need another Shaw.
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ozza posted:It doesn't matter in the slightest whether she's biologically his daughter or not. In fact, I bet SMG can weave that theme into his/her analysis. The actual content of a film is entirely irrelevant to SMG's analysis.
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Wandle Cax posted:The actual content of a film is entirely irrelevant to SMG's analysis. There's nothing in the film about this. People are making things up based exclusively on a joke the character tells in a different film four years previous. Meanwhile, in reality, Spielberg has two adopted kids: Theo and Mikaela. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There's nothing in the film about this. People are making things up based exclusively on a joke the character tells in a different film four years previous. No, the daughter character delivered the line. In JPII. I thought I kinda respected SMG and the forums were dogpiling him for actually caring to analyze movies, but holy poo poo, here I am telling him to rewatch a movie he's making claims about.
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LaughMyselfTo posted:No, the daughter character delivered the line. In JPII. I thought I kinda respected SMG and the forums were dogpiling him for actually caring to analyze movies, but holy poo poo, here I am telling him to rewatch a movie he's making claims about. Wait, I thought people were talking about the line in JP1 where he says he's always "on the lookout for a future ex-Mrs. Malcolm." The line in Lost World is "you like to have kids, you just don’t want to be with them, do you?" That's "have", not "make". Kelly is talking about how Malcolm thinks she's already perfect, amazing, and inspirational - so, in his view, she doesn't need guidance. She's not talking about how much her dad likes to gently caress. The character is twelve years old. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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