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In my boredom, I've decided to attempt to map out what is required to make a relatively simple recipe to give others an idea of how complex the crafting system is. Let's say you wanted to create a Health Recovery Stim. This requires the Pharmaceutical skill "Basic Stimulant Production". Here is all the skills/items needed to produce 3 of them. 1 Pharmaceutical Compound (Specifically Cortisol) 1 Stim Chemical (Not sure which one out of 6 options, so we will go with "Ionized Chromium Solution") 3 Injector 1 Sterilizing Agent (Again, not sure, but we'll go with Hydrogen Peroxide) I'll now go step by step to create each of those associated ingredients within the "Basic Stimulant Production" that we are attempting to make. Cortisol Required Skill: Pharmaceutical, to make this you use the "Pharmaceutical Compound Extraction" recipe. This requires 1 Tissue Sample 1 Acid 1 Buffer Solution 1 Distilled Water Tissue samples are easy enough to get, simply butcher some dead animals. (Survival Skill) The difficulty is finding the specific tissue sample needed to produce Cortisol. Acid is a bit more difficult, so I'll go into that below. There are 11 different acids, so knowing which one produces Cortisol isn't really listed anywhere. So we'll just go with Carbonic Acid Carbonic Acid Requires skill: Fishing and receipe "Chemical Extraction: Sea Plants" For this, you just need: 1 Sea Plant (Received through fishing) 1 Heat Source (Wood or Coal) The Buffer Solution can be a one of 5 different option, but we'll go with the easiest for the sake of my sanity, and say it's "Borate" Borate Requires Skill: Mining and recipe "Mineral breakdown" This requires 1 Mineral, in this case a Borax Cluster which is received through Mining 1 Heat Source, (Wood or Coal) Finally the Corisol recipe requires Distilled Water Distilled Water Required Skill: Chemistry and receipe "Distilled Water" This needs: 5 Contaminated Water (You basically scoop up water from a lake), 1 Heat Source (Wood or Coal) Hurrah, first item in our Health Recovery Stim is complete, lets get the other 3! Ionized Chromium Solution Requires Skill: Pharmaceuticals and recipe: Mineral Solution Synthesis. This needs: 1 Mineral 1 Buffer Solution 1 Distilled Water Next we need the injector, this one is a bit more complicated: Injector Requires Skill: Pharmaceuticals and Recipe "Injector" This produces 3 injectors (what we need), but requires: 1 Surgical Steel 1 Sterilization Surgical Steel To produce the Refined Surgical Stainless Steel Bar, you will need a high skill in Mining, at least 200 I believe, and the following the various ores that produce it. 2 Minerals 1 Ore 3 Refinement Agents (Can be bought) Since the Injector recipe and the actual Stim recipe both need a Sterilization agent, we will simply go with the Hydrogen Peroxide for both (Note: This may need to be different depending on what you are actually trying to produce). Hydrogen Peroxide Required Skill: Chemistry and recipe Mineral Acidification This produces 5 Hydrogen Peroxide: 1 Mineral 1 Acid 1 Distilled water And there you have it, you just produced the equivalent of 3 Health Potions. Other items like Vehicles, weapons and the like are significantly more complex and require a larger series of skills to produce it all yourself.
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Get sniper rifle, medium tactical armour to look like a wonky space marine and shoot setlanguages all over the place.
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Solvency posted:SEE TOP OF PAGE POST ABOVE If you want to do any crafting use this wiki thing too. http://aena.at/craftmap/item1715.html
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BERGfu posted:If you want to do any crafting use this wiki thing too. Well that at least rids me of the guessing game of what ingredients make what component. Thanks!
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BERGfu posted:If you want to do any crafting use this wiki thing too. I'll add this to the OP
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Dec 2, 2014 18:00
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so when is the wipe?
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Dec 2, 2014 22:31
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Seems like next week, at least according to what one of the devs mentioned in the patch preview.
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Dec 2, 2014 23:08
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One of the Developers posted:Probably more like the 11th, but we honestly don't know. We're playing the waiting game like everyone else and going by the estimates which we are being given. We are ready to go on our end and pushing to have it done as quickly as possible. If there is a silver lining though, it's that we will have another week's worth of bug fixes.
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Dec 2, 2014 23:52
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The crafting system doesn't bother me but how is the UI? I like complex crafting systems but if the UI makes me feel like I have to rely on the internet to use it properly I get mildly annoyed.
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Anyone interested in playing this tonight? I think we should figure out a plan on how we are going to goon rush this once the wipe hits.
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Dec 3, 2014 22:25
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Solvency posted:Anyone interested in playing this tonight? I think we should figure out a plan on how we are going to goon rush this once the wipe hits. At what time you want to meet?
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Dec 3, 2014 22:36
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I don't know what exactly we'd rush unless we all line up outside of a town and shoot everyone who tries to walk out of a city
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Dec 3, 2014 22:38
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BERGfu posted:I don't know what exactly we'd rush unless we all line up outside of a town and shoot everyone who tries to walk out of a city My thoughts are that we will want to rush a plot for Goon City, so that we have a place to meetup where we can all work together easily and share resources effectively. I suspect there are quite a few goons waiting for the wipe to start playing, and making sure people who just started playing are engaged is the way to keep them playing. As for time tonight, I should be available around 8 central.
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Dec 3, 2014 22:50
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Quite a few goons is about 12.
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Dec 3, 2014 23:09
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Solvency posted:My thoughts are that we will want to rush a plot for Goon City, so that we have a place to meetup where we can all work together easily and share resources effectively. I suspect there are quite a few goons waiting for the wipe to start playing, and making sure people who just started playing are engaged is the way to keep them playing. sounds like a good plan, almost less ambitious than Castle in AA... Count me in. Under what name are you playing on?
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Tempus Thales posted:sounds like a good plan, almost less ambitious than Castle in AA... Count me in. Under what name are you playing on? Rehab Submarine, and I'll be in Mumble with the rest of the "Bad Games Crew" or whatever they are calling themselves this week.
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Dec 4, 2014 02:15
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I'll keep an eye on the thread and try to contribute to goon city.
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Solvency posted:My thoughts are that we will want to rush a plot for Goon City, so that we have a place to meetup where we can all work together easily and share resources effectively. I suspect there are quite a few goons waiting for the wipe to start playing, and making sure people who just started playing are engaged is the way to keep them playing. Yeah I'm waiting for the wipe.
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Dec 4, 2014 02:30
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How long until the waipu?
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Dec 4, 2014 08:53
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SweetBro posted:How long until the waipu? The devs aren't really sure. They are waiting for additional hardware from their vendors because the next round will have completely new servers that should cut out the lag. Best estimate right now is the 11th.
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Dec 4, 2014 15:33
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At least they're getting new hardware and not relying on a toaster held together with string like Trion.
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Dec 4, 2014 16:08
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the toaster was a bad design choice in retrospect when the AC went out the toaster overheated and burned the toast causing a 2 day outage
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Dec 4, 2014 16:09
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Eonwe posted:the toaster was a bad design choice in retrospect toasters run linux now
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Dec 4, 2014 21:45
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Did they not follow the sign that said don't turn on the microwave and the toaster at the same time of it will blow the ac?
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Dec 4, 2014 22:43
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Solvency posted:Rehab Submarine, and I'll be in Mumble with the rest of the "Bad Games Crew" or whatever they are calling themselves this week. We are "xX420BlazeGokuXz Dark Demons Cry Gundam xX420BlazeGokuXx" this week.
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Solvency posted:In my boredom, I've decided to attempt to map out what is required to make a relatively simple recipe to give others an idea of how complex the crafting system is. I am an autist and this gives me a  erection.
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Dec 7, 2014 22:09
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apseudonym posted:I am an autist and this gives me a I am an ex-swg player and this entire game gives me a erection. Then I remember that MMOs for the past 10 years have been trash.
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The only thing about this game that gives me pause is the lack of a skill cap. I feel like that's what made Darkfall terrible, when it could have been great. Regardless, I'm really tempted to give it a shot. What kind of specializations do we need so far for the Goon PVE guild? I have a love of gathering that borders on the obscene.
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Dec 8, 2014 16:05
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Talmonis posted:The only thing about this game that gives me pause is the lack of a skill cap. I feel like that's what made Darkfall terrible, when it could have been great. You need to have minoring to at least 15 so we know if you're a miner or not
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Dec 8, 2014 20:31
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Actually your best bet is to PM Drinkfist with what you want to play and he'll explain what you need to do.
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Dec 8, 2014 20:52
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Amazon is now selling the Wii U Gamecube adapter from third parties for 125.00. I want every one of you low lifes to hit the streets and find me one at your local gamestops and poo poo stores or I am gonna stop posting for your entertainment.
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Dec 9, 2014 14:32
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Drinkfist posted:Amazon is now selling the Wii U Gamecube adapter from third parties for 125.00. I want every one of you low lifes to hit the streets and find me one at your local gamestops and poo poo stores or I am gonna stop posting for your entertainment. Hey I featured your amazing artwork in the stickied Games thread. We should play games soon.
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Dec 9, 2014 16:58
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Drink are you ready for this? I need to know, I need to know now.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:03
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BERGfu posted:Drink are you ready for this? I need to know, I need to know now.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:57
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I'll build the intricate tunnel system underneath our castle.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:58
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Stanley Pain posted:I'll build the intricate tunnel system underneath our castle. congratulations on becoming the new subway constructor! YOU'RE HIRED
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Dec 9, 2014 20:26
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BERGfu posted:congratulations on becoming the new subway constructor! YOU'RE HIRED I secretly work for the TTC 
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Dec 9, 2014 20:30
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no one else besides me will get that
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BERGfu posted:no one else besides me will get that I'm pretty sure SA is built on a series of inside jokes. Speaking of inside jokes, how's this game? My desire to play with Fun People is high but nothing is satisfying me, either because it's completely dead or a complete sack of poo poo.
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I'm considering joining the other 12 goons to play this terrible game. Is the next wipe going to be the final wipe?
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