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Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Got in some games today with two friends who are newer to the game and had their first ITS games as their entry into trying it before N3 and the new ITS comes out in the new year. I decided to play some Bakunin at 300pts, they brought Hassasin Bahram and ALEPH respectively. My list was:

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF BAKUNIN
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GROUP 1 7 1 1

REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 38)
SIN-EATER HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 34)
ZERO (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (21)
ZERO (Deployable Repeater) E/Mauler, Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
TSYKLON Spitfire, Marker / Electric Pulse. (1 | 37)
CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Zero-V Smoke Grenades / Viral CCW. (23)
2x PUPNIK DA CCW.
DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (14)
ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (3)
SALYUT (EVO Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 13)

GROUP 2 5 3 3

VERTIGO ZOND Guided Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 34)
VORTEX (WIP15, BTS-6, Engineer, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse, Stun Pistol. (9 | 12XP)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 11)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)

6 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4

I think both of them were a bit surpirsed at me having two combat groups. :v:. Fun times and they both loved playing ITS compared to YAMS or alternative and how it shakes up the game.

They both did some initial reading on ITS before making lists but I've been out of touch with the forums for a while, does anyone know if there's any type of rundown on ITS for newer players to explain list building? I explained the basics to them but they'd both like some more reading on the game too.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Nov 29, 2014

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JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
The only really new-player focused list building advice I have seen was I think on Crits Kill People, and it boiled down to "1 hidden Lt, 2 big attackers, two backup attackers (camo or snipers), 3 specialists, and 2 cheerleaders/backfield protectors"

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


That's actually not bad in itself. I usually recommended around that but not that specific.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
If my shasvastii is killed by fire, does the spawn embryo need to keep rolling for the fire effect as well?

E: btw, Ko Dali kicks rear end. She landed behind his Nomads and killed a reverend healer and grenzr sniper. Then blew the brains out of a spektr as he came out of TO camo to kill her.

Not a viking fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Dec 4, 2014

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Not a viking posted:

If my shasvastii is killed by fire, does the spawn embryo need to keep rolling for the fire effect as well?
Technically if you're "killed", then the spawn embryo has already burned too. But yes.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Really? I thought shasvastii had three states: unconscious, dead and embryo?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
It's: unconscious -> embryo -> dead.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Thats... not what the wiki says?

Aix Athanatos
Nov 3, 2011

Not a viking posted:

Thats... not what the wiki says?

Yeah, wiki says Unconscious --> Dead/Spawn --> Sooper Dooper Dead.

http://infinitythegame.wikispot.org/Shasvastii?action=show&redirect=Spawn-Embryo

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
The biggest tournament in Australia is coming up, and I'm planning to attend.

Sadly, the format is one of the weirdest formats I've seen for a tournament in a long time.

The first round is 150pts, then round 2 is 200, 3 is 250, 4 is 300, and 5 is 400. With a maximum of two combat groups.

Part of me wants to listwrite so that my list 'grows' between matches, but as ALEPH, that locks me out of so many delicious options.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Wiki:

If the Shasvastii receives 1 Wound, it falls Unconscious. If it receives 2 Wounds, it passes to Dead state (Replace the miniature by a Spawn-Embryo Marker). If the Spawn-Embryo receives one more Wound, it must be removed from the game table.

That's the order I was talking about. Since Spawn-Embryos count as alive for the purposes of VP/area control/other victory conditions, the "Embryo=Dead" is largely irrelevant, unless you're playing some special scenario I can't think of (e.g. Booty can only grab from unconscious, no problem here; YAMS documents can be grabbed from unconscious or dead, I don't see the difference in Spawn-Embryo level counting as either, etc.)

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
I've seen this used against Shasvastii, too. I've seen a canny player spend orders to put Unconscious dudes into Seeds, to prevent the Shasvastii player hitting the retreat threshold, artificially extending the length of an ITS game.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
I interpreted it as the model being replaced by a counter which is its own "model", hence not being affected by its "parent" burning.

But hey, I'm the noob here :v:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


This is why nobody likes Shasvastii players, they add more questions to a game that has loads of them. :v:

Here's a table related question for you goons, our store/playgroup has now been able to deck out around 8 tables worth of Infinity and store support has let us belt that further up to 12, but we ideally need some more scatter terrain for the last few. Any particular scatter terrain you guys favour? Typical things like shipping crates and board decoration is what I'm after.

For reference our tables at the moment tend to use set piece terrain and customize from there. We have two MAS tables, two Sarissa, two Spartan and two Plascraft.

e: vvv love u too bby

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 5, 2014

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

WAR FOOT posted:

I've seen this used against Shasvastii, too. I've seen a canny player spend orders to put Unconscious dudes into Seeds, to prevent the Shasvastii player hitting the retreat threshold, artificially extending the length of an ITS game.
What difference does it make? Unconscious Shasvastii don't count for retreat.


Flipswitch posted:

This is why nobody likes Shasvastii players

gently caress you too, buddy. t:cthulhu:

Flipswitch posted:

Any particular scatter terrain you guys favour? Typical things like shipping crates and board decoration is what I'm after.
Have you got access to cheap laser-cutting? If so I can bug a local club for crate patterns. Or just pester Misiek and Pietras404 on the official forums yourself, they cut lots of non-profit terrain for clubs and the like so I think they'll share and their stuff is well done.

^^^: Aww, you'll be the first to get brainsucked when the revolution starts :3:

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Dec 5, 2014

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Little pots full of flock and plants make great scatter - the pots offer good cover, add a great hint of green to urban terrain, and can be thematically justified on almost any board type. And really, all they are (for our version) is a tiny little foamcore box with an inset top (which holds the flock and greenery).

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Got any pictures of those guys? trying to picture it in my head. One of the guys here makes little plant bots for one of our urban high-tech tables and it looks pretty sweet. I'm trying to get a sense of the sort of stuff to use with the PlasCraft PVC stuff for like an urban colony, you know?

Pierzak posted:

What difference does it make? Unconscious Shasvastii don't count for retreat.


gently caress you too, buddy. t:cthulhu:

Have you got access to cheap laser-cutting? If so I can bug a local club for crate patterns. Or just pester Misiek and Pietras404 on the official forums yourself, they cut lots of non-profit terrain for clubs and the like so I think they'll share and their stuff is well done.

^^^: Aww, you'll be the first to get brainsucked when the revolution starts :3:
I think we do, someone I know mentioned it a while back but I didn't chase up that lead.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
I don't have any pictures myself and a quick sweep through the arcologies section only showed the more complex stuff that our terrain wizard created for the group. He's Deflater Mouse on the official forum, and he has a bunch of different threads with pictures now.

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Deflater mouse is friggin awesome; I have him on my flickr feed too.

gilljoy
May 3, 2009
Anyone have any good links for Pan-O painting tutorials?

Signal
Dec 10, 2005

gilljoy posted:

Anyone have any good links for Pan-O painting tutorials?

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.756162454444664.1073742021.436491416411771&type=1

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
Today, Saito Togan claimed more kills in Close Combat than I've probably ever attained in Infinity. He does not play around.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Don't hate it, but don't love it enough to pick it up. Will use my SAS models to proxy.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Obviously I make allowances for Infinity's wonderful presentation of their releases - it won't look as striking on the tabletop painted by an ordinary mortal - but that is one fine model. And for an interesting new profile as well!

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Also, Data Sphere previews several pages from N3. Looking good so far.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Wasn't the release date for N3 December 8th?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Indolent Bastard posted:

Wasn't the release date for N3 December 8th?

"Unforseen manufacturing difficulties"

The sun will shine, the night is dark, and CB will miss their release dates.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Z the IVth posted:

"Unforseen manufacturing difficulties"
Sounds like our lovely TV news.

"Like last year and many previous years, some people set themselves on fire during New Year's Eve fireworks. The tragedy! WHO COULD'VE FORESEEN IT!?"

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Indolent Bastard posted:

Wasn't the release date for N3 December 8th?

That was the potential shipping date, not release date. And it's been delayed until the 12th, apparently.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Are daturazi witch soldiers impetuos? According to maya net they are, but I can't find what rules give them that.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Not a viking posted:

Are daturazi witch soldiers impetuos? According to maya net they are, but I can't find what rules give them that.

It's just part of their troop profile. Whether or not a troop is Impetuous is a stat of it's own.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Pierzak posted:

Sounds like our lovely TV news.

"Like last year and many previous years, some people set themselves on fire during New Year's Eve fireworks. The tragedy! WHO COULD'VE FORESEEN IT!?"

Kids where I come from used to disassemble fireworks to make cannons. 3rd degree burns is nothing compared to celebratory IEDs.

I pre-ordered the book but now I'm having second thoughts - what are the chances they will release the rules online?

Baron Snow
Feb 8, 2007


100%, just a matter of when.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Z the IVth posted:

Kids where I come from used to disassemble fireworks to make cannons. 3rd degree burns is nothing compared to celebratory IEDs.

I pre-ordered the book but now I'm having second thoughts - what are the chances they will release the rules online?
Heh, I got one to blow up in my hand as a kid myself :v:

The rules will be released for sure, but not at once - you're looking at a ~3 month delay.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Hmmm. Seems now we have Impetuous and extremely Impetuous. The first cannot benefit from cover, but can just ignore his impetuous order with no cost if you choose. The second needs to pay a regular order from the pool, as happens with the current rule.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Genghis Cohen posted:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsqPkhhckIKrYwgP-8OzApm01xxsKuxpG

Not particularly high-level play in terms of the guy's proficiency, but they look really nice and I dig the way he's edited them, much clearer and easier watching than something like MWG.

Neat thanks! Perfect thing to watch while I'm sick.

Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte

FFFffffffffuck! :flashfap:

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Dat spetznas.

I had my second and third "real" Infinity game today. One fan made scenario and one YAMS one. I can tell I have A LOT to learn, but the one thing I noticed in my two games today was that my Daturazi kept running out and getting gunned down, losing me orders early on. Any tips on how to work around / plan for using Impetuous troops?

E: also, my Aswang glued and ate some poor schmuck :drac:

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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Put them 4" back so they don't get 4" out of cover when they have to impetuous-advance. Always drop smokes underfoot when you don't have anything specific to do, "dodging" on PH 17 is amazing and Daturazis are mobile smoke screens as much as units on their own.

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