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Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

CrazyTolradi posted:

iberals would be stupid to do the exact same thing they gave Labor the most poo poo about

Like promising a raft of things on the eve of the election and then doing the exact opposite in power?

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Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?
Nick Xenonphon's launching a national party: the Nick Xenophon Team.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Nibbles! posted:

A cabinet reshuffle may get certain people worried enough that they let others know they'd support them in a leadership spill, and the closer it gets to an election the more of a problem Abbott's numbers will be. I think from what we know about him too there's little chance he'll ever step aside short of losing the election and his seat, if they want to remove him it will be a fight.

Oh yeah, he will not stand aside, he will fight them tooth and nail for the leadership position and he'll make any offer or deal he can to keep it. For Tones, being PM was never about the country or even the Liberal party, it was all about him getting the glory and title at any cost.

Gough Suppressant posted:

Like promising a raft of things on the eve of the election and then doing the exact opposite in power?

TBH, that's par for the course in Australian politics now.

Mr Chips posted:

Nick Xenonphon's launching a national party: the Nick Xenophon Team.

Does Nick Xylophone have any new policies other than "No Pokies"?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Nibbles! posted:

A cabinet reshuffle may get certain people worried enough that they let others know they'd support them in a leadership spill, and the closer it gets to an election the more of a problem Abbott's numbers will be. I think from what we know about him too there's little chance he'll ever step aside short of losing the election and his seat, if they want to remove him it will be a fight.

Remember that these are the guys who didn't have the ticker to remove Howard when he was an electoral liability ahead of an actual election. And the guys who want their jobs are even dumber.

Cartoon posted:

The 'funny' thing about this is that if they hadn't jumped off the 'do nothing*' play book (The standard Tory play book) and just kept the ship 'steady as she goes' they would probably have sailed into a second term promising to deliver all of these unpopular things.

It says something about Howard's iron grip that these guys were that frustrated they couldn't do what they wanted that an ALP government was the last straw, and the dam burst and other cliches. So for me this is as much his fault, and his continuing "advice" isn't helping.

I've said I wouldn't be surprised that if they do dump Abbott they'll put in Scott Morrison and here's my reasons (let's just assume they laugh Abbott off any ballot because seriously mate you hosed up):

* He'd win a ballot against all comers. Bishop doesn't stand a chance, they'd pick him to avoid her.
* He's the only "success" they have.
* He's got I WANNA BE PM written all over him. That's a core requirement for getting the job. Noone takes Joe seriously enough. They're too scared to put a woman in the job. And Turnbull? See below.
* No, he won't take Treasurer as an alternative. No one with any brain cells wants that job right now. (I'm secretly hoping they give it to Cormann anyway because that's a train crash that needs to happen).

Counterpoint: they put in some nobody Turnbull like they did with Downer so he can wear the lost election. I'd credit Morrison if he went with this. But Turnbull could turn it down just to gently caress them all up, he's got a better political memory than you think.


Also, deal with it

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

MC Eating Disorder posted:

Daylight savings is completely pointless in QLD but its really hard not to support it when you look at the kind of people that are actively campaigning against

Yeah, the closer to the equator you go, the less you need daylight savings. I just wish the people against it weren't also such loving horrible people.

There must be some kind of unwritten rule that any person actively campaigning against daylight savings must also be a sanctimonious luddite bigot.

Or they're just old. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Cartoon posted:

The 'funny' thing about this is that if they hadn't jumped off the 'do nothing*' play book (The standard Tory play book) and just kept the ship 'steady as she goes' they would probably have sailed into a second term promising to deliver all of these unpopular things. Self accelerationalists, or indeed Muppet Government.

* Repealing the Carbon Tax, Mining Tax and 'stopping' the boats not withstanding.

I remember reading the IPA's list of 75 recommendations for the Abbott government just before the election and being flabbergasted. In reality the commission of audit was a watered down conservative cherry-picking of the IPA's libertarian shopping list and now the budget has been turned into a watered-down version of the commission of audit, which is really quite terrifying considering how loving awful and reactionary it still is.

Though one thing I'd really like for Tony Abbott to follow through with on that list more than anything else is to be like Gough, literally.

Foreman Domai
Apr 2, 2010

"In one dimension I find existence, in two I find life, but in three, I find freedom."

An idiot on Facebook posted:

The reason people don't know what the government has been acheiving is because the main stream media are caught up in a 'soap opera" style of politics (as Prime Minister Abbott rightly stated) instead of the things that matter - like policy!!! Look deeper than the Today show people - you'll be pleasantly surprised that the country is in very capable hands!

Must be amazing being a Liberal voter and living in a different universe.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




The Welfare Lobby posted:

I had a chat to Tony Piccolo, minister for police, while I was volunteering for the Greens. He reckoned that a loss in Fisher could trigger a leadership spill in the SA Liberals, so I guess we'll see if he's right.

The SA Libs have no leadership, so I don't know what that will achieve

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Every time we pass Cairns hospital in a shuttle bus the drivers sing praise about how great the Queensland Government is. Did Newman promise anything to the Cairns hospital or do these bus drivers have to do it by contract?

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

The Welfare Lobby posted:

Must be amazing being a Liberal voter and living in a different universe.
I would be a happier person if I was that ignorant but I'm stuck here being all open minded

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

Anidav posted:

Every time we pass Cairns hospital in a shuttle bus the drivers sing praise about how great the Queensland Government is. Did Newman promise anything to the Cairns hospital or do these bus drivers have to do it by contract?

Queensland Hospitals have always been great. We have always had great reefs in Queensland.

Do not question the tourguide.

Urcher
Jun 16, 2006


Anidav posted:

Every time we pass Cairns hospital in a shuttle bus the drivers sing praise about how great the Queensland Government is. Did Newman promise anything to the Cairns hospital or do these bus drivers have to do it by contract?

Looks like he promised $15M over 4 years to upgrade the hospital when he was campaigning. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-20/newman-pledges-15m-for-cairns-hospital/3901430

Presumably he's been delivering on that promise otherwise the locals wouldn't be full of praise for him.

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

CrazyTolradi posted:

Does Nick Xylophone have any new policies other than "No Pokies"?
He's more or less tapped into the anti established parties sentiment, by in a more South Australian way. The whole 'no pokies' thing didn't really achieve much, except for maybe limiting the growth of pokies in SA. One of his Senate 'policies' is to limit online gambling.

He's also (arguably) done more to advocate SA's interests in the Senate than shits like Farrell, Michin and so on, and is at least open to evidence based policy on on things like climate change

homebrew
Mar 13, 2007

Needs more (safer) beer.

"Everyone warp to me, warp to me warp to me."


(brief pause)



"poo poo. If you warped to me you're dead."

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Cpt Soban
Jul 23, 2011

homebrew posted:

"Everyone warp to me, warp to me warp to me."


(brief pause)



"poo poo. If you warped to me you're dead."

I'm in his fleet now- We actually won a fight with only 7-8 losses, we dunked 40 of them.

Urcher
Jun 16, 2006



Now it's only a matter of time until all our emergency services have corporate sponsors.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

CrazyTolradi posted:

Does Nick Xylophone have any new policies other than "No Pokies"?

He supports massive extrajudicial powers for the Immigration Minister to destroy people's lives, that's new.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!
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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Urcher posted:

Looks like he promised $15M over 4 years to upgrade the hospital when he was campaigning. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-20/newman-pledges-15m-for-cairns-hospital/3901430

Presumably he's been delivering on that promise otherwise the locals wouldn't be full of praise for him.

Newman begging for federal money posted:

"We'll then of course be lobbying the Federal Government because they have a huge role here in terms of this move to tier one."

Given Tony's cuts to health...

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://www.highered.gov.au/#homepage-video

I would blow Dane Cook fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Dec 7, 2014

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Brisbane times posted:

Bruce Flegg dumped again as LNP candidate for Moggill

Bruce Flegg has been dumped as the LNP candidate for Moggill for next year's state election, thanks to a voting bloc of LNP state executive members.

Dr Flegg was recontesting preselection against Dr Christian Rowan, who was the preferred candidate of the party executive.

"I was concerned when I saw the number of state executive people that had turned up," he said.

"I would have been very confident were it a vote of local members, but that's what the rules are, they're entitled to that many votes so you can't argue with these decisions."



It's understood 23 state executive members attended the meeting at the Brookfield State School, none of whom live in the electorate.

"I've never seen it before," Dr Flegg said. "But that's the result, and I'll just get on with it."

The LNP put Dr Rowan up as the only candidate at the first ballot in October, but he was rejected by rank-and-file members.

The party executive decided to let both men contest the position.

Dr Flegg said he bore Dr Rowan no grudge.

"I wish him well – there's no point in carrying sour grapes," he said.

"People do and act in the way they see best and see fit, and we accept that."

Dr Flegg said he pleaded his case for preselection strongly, even producing a letter of support signed by all but four Queensland MPs.

"Sadly none of them have a vote," Dr Flegg told Brisbane Times.

Dr Flegg said he would continue to serve the people of Moggill as their local member until the election was called.

Dr Rowan said he was humbled by the nomination.

"I grew up in the electorate and with my wife Jane, we are raising our own family here," he said.

"I know the issues which are important to my community as will be working hard to deliver the roads, jobs and frontline services we need."

LNP President Bruce McIver said Dr Rowan would be a strong representative.
"He is passionate about his community and as former AMAQ President is an experienced advocate for those he represents," he said

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




SKY COQ posted:

He supports massive extrajudicial powers for the Immigration Minister to destroy people's lives, that's new.

But before that he blocked the higher education bill. I refuse to use the word reform in the same sentence.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
Hahaha Hockey at the presser for the Murray report saying we need to cut down the money taken by intermediaries in Super.

Didn't give a poo poo about that when you were trying to gently caress over industry super funds in favour of commercial ones with the FOFA rollback did you fatso?

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Xenophon's been a pretty good senator over the last couple of years and a definite improvement over his young liberal days stuffing student ballot boxes with dupe votes, but he lost all of my respect passing the Morrison legislation and he can go loving rot in hell forever

Muir as well the stupid ignorant bastard

No apologies for torture enablers

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
Xenophon also tried to get an anti worker lolbertarian shitheel up on his ticket last year, possibly due to the fact that Xenophon is a lolbertarian anti-worker shitheel who just happened to have a dad who pissed babby nicks lunch money down the pokies informing nicks only progressive worldview.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday
Xenophon doesn't believe in penalty rates. He can gently caress right off, frankly.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai


Nice going, reddit.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

I heard of someone doing a similar campaign for 50 Shades of Grey, with the arguements that it's a sexually explicit book and can easily be purchased by children.

Not having read it, I have no idea how bad it is, I just keep hearing people say it's horrible. But it does raise a point, if we're restricting video and game content to minors, should the same principles and classifications apply to books?

meteor9
Nov 23, 2007

"That's why I put up with it."

I guess I should've expected their website to tell me I'm wrong every time I hit the correct button? (no this is not going to make things better for rural colleges, no this is absolutely not going to be better for new parents, what the gently caress?)

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
Y'know if you're a hosed up enough person that you need to get your kicks out of murdering imaginary women after paying to have simulated sex with them you should probably not be allowed in public, let alone in a K-Mart or Target

e: it's not like gta does anything else noteworthy that noted Good Game, Saints Row, doesn't

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

CrazyTolradi posted:

I heard of someone doing a similar campaign for 50 Shades of Grey, with the arguements that it's a sexually explicit book and can easily be purchased by children.

Not having read it, I have no idea how bad it is, I just keep hearing people say it's horrible. But it does raise a point, if we're restricting video and game content to minors, should the same principles and classifications apply to books?

There are multiple porn book stores in the Melbourne CBD so I assumed we do restrict what types of book gets sold on shelves?

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Gough Suppressant posted:

There are multiple porn book stores in the Melbourne CBD so I assumed we do restrict what types of book gets sold on shelves?

I think you'll find that these places diversify and sell a wide range of adult products, not just adult porn "books".

There's a difference between porn books and erotica, like 50 Shades of Grey. I guess my question is, should books such as 50 Shades of Grey be under some kind of classification? Do books even have a classification system? I know porn mags have to be covered up in newsagents and are rated adults only, but I have no idea if this is just magazines/published perodicals, or books as well. Keep in mind 50 Shades of Grey has pretty explicit scenes in it.

lua
Jun 16, 2013

CrazyTolradi posted:

I heard of someone doing a similar campaign for 50 Shades of Grey, with the arguements that it's a sexually explicit book and can easily be purchased by children.

Not having read it, I have no idea how bad it is, I just keep hearing people say it's horrible. But it does raise a point, if we're restricting video and game content to minors, should the same principles and classifications apply to books?

Technically we have a literature rating system, but afaik it's only ever applied to porn mags and for some reason American Psycho, which is rated R.

Smegmatron
Apr 23, 2003

I hate to advocate emptyquoting or shitposting to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Our literature rating system is as follows;

Has pictures of naked people in it - Only if it's in an adult shop or wrapped in plastic at a servo.
Old people/puritans complained about it - R
Everything else - Whatever who cares it's just words

Compare this to our games rating system which is as follows;

Old people/puritans complained about it - R/Banned
Everything else - Whatever who cares games make kids go quiet

Never underestimate the ability of a parent to crack the shits because their kid is reading a book wherein two teenagers kiss, though. Never mind that the Shakespeare they see as a signifier of high achievement has more racism and murder in an act than the video game industry could ever fathom creating.

Smegmatron fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Dec 7, 2014

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out the whole thing was the brainchild of some ad agency. The games been out for over a year and it was a lot of publicity just as the new gen edition arrived.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Nibbles! posted:

I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find out the whole thing was the brainchild of some ad agency. The games been out for over a year and it was a lot of publicity just as the new gen edition arrived.

This would square pretty well with the fact it's happening around Target. They're a big chain, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a Target store that isn't within spitting distance of an EB Games or something.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
Video game false flag

i got banned
Sep 24, 2010

lol abbottwon
If Australia got rid of penalty rates I literally would not be able to live and would probably die

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Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

CrazyTolradi posted:

Not having read it, I have no idea how bad it is, I just keep hearing people say it's horrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZTSxQIxsiA

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