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achillesforever6 posted:You know I went into hearing that the director thought superhero movies were cultural genocide which made me roll my eyes a bit, but it is a really really good film and Keaton deserves an Oscar for it. I read the article, and all I can say is meh. is he REALLY saying anything different from all these other "superhero movies are for dumb babbies and loser manchildren" wanna-be erudites online? but i like birdman its a good film didn't james gunn say something similar in the past? EDIT: Alejandro González Iñárritu posted:I sometimes enjoy them because they are basic and simple and go well with popcorn. The problem is that sometimes they purport to be profound, based on some Greek mythological kind of thing. And they are honestly very right wing. I always see them as killing people because they do not believe in what you believe, or they are not being who you want them to be. I hate that, and don’t respond to those characters. They have been poison, this cultural genocide, because the audience is so overexposed to plot and explosions and poo poo that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human. its professor clumsy's avengers review all over again BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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Human experience in movies is overrated. I could just...go outside if I want that. BLOW SOME poo poo UP. (Birdman was a good movie, despite my frustration with that part of the message. I like that I could go see Birdman, and then afterward go see Guardians of the Galaxy and both movies will make me feel emotions, which is great.)
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Dec 6, 2014 09:07
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I miss emotions sometimes. I think like one out of every 10 movies released has an emotion in it nowadays.
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Dec 6, 2014 11:10
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Lurdiak posted:I miss emotions sometimes. I think like one out of every 10 movies released has an emotion in it nowadays. EXPLOSION is an emotion.
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Dec 6, 2014 12:49
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Gaussian posted:So what's a good place to start for Dr. Strange? I got Marvel Unlimited for my birthday and want to make the most of it. If you can get Triumph and Torment with him and Dr. Doom, check it out. Like Marvel's Dante's Inferno.
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Dec 6, 2014 12:58
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CelticPredator posted:Human experience in movies is overrated. SHUT UP. YOU ARE AN ADULT AND SHOULD ONLY LIKE ADULT THINGS, LIKE SEX AND DATING AND.... uhh... SPORTS.. YEAH, SPORTS
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Dec 6, 2014 15:18
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My sex is like a Packers game. this means whatever you want.
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Dec 6, 2014 22:12
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CelticPredator posted:My sex is like a Packers game. My sex is like an issue of Action Comics #1. Wrapped in plastic and untouched by human hands.
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Dec 6, 2014 22:22
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My sex is like human emotions in a batman movie.
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Dec 6, 2014 22:32
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Madkal posted:My sex is like human emotions in a batman movie. Stunted and repressed?
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Dec 6, 2014 22:36
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CelticPredator posted:Human experience in movies is overrated.
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Dec 6, 2014 23:42
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Race Realists posted:SHUT UP. YOU ARE AN ADULT AND SHOULD ONLY LIKE ADULT THINGS, LIKE SEX AND DATING AND.... Generally the idea is that being an adult means that you can enjoy something but also analyze it. It's not really exaggerated or out of line to say that superheroes, especially the modern movies have a fairly right-wing bent, intentionally or unintentionally. I mean they're still fun but you can think they're fun and still recognize that.
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Dec 7, 2014 00:06
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Well almost any action movie is going to implicitly endorse arming yourself liberally and being liberal in the application of force, and the idea of an inherently dangerous world where you need people you have no control over you protecting you in ways without oversight. They're gonna be pretty right wing. They try to make up for it by generally making villains corporations or evil executives, but that doesn't really change the key messages of that film. And I'm totally ok with it. Batman and Iron Man are fascists, but they're the kind of fascists I could have a beer with.
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Dec 7, 2014 02:21
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I did like the end of CA2: Winter Soldier, but I had no idea what to make of the political implications. Cap and friends expose the entire spy network of America and possibly its allies too, but it's okay because we've got three (3) superheroes on our side. Is that support our troops conservative? Or don't torture folks liberal?
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Dec 7, 2014 02:51
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ImpAtom posted:Generally the idea is that being an adult means that you can enjoy something but also analyze it. It's not really exaggerated or out of line to say that superheroes, especially the modern movies have a fairly right-wing bent, intentionally or unintentionally. Sure. I'm not a huge fan of doing that yet, but who knows in time. But Birdman pretty much flat out says those movies are poo poo. I think it did anyway. That's how I read the giant bird scene. But I could've misread it.
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Dec 7, 2014 03:02
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Superhero movies were a shorthand for superficiality, and the giant bird scene in particular was an adolescent power fantasy from a guy who feared he was fading into irrelevance. In the end I don't think the movie cared enough to use superhero movies as more than a punchline, it just had better and deeper points to make. The real message was: drums are awesome, get a drummer for your kitchen
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Dec 7, 2014 03:49
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HitTheTargets posted:I did like the end of CA2: Winter Soldier, but I had no idea what to make of the political implications. Cap and friends expose the entire spy network of America and possibly its allies too, but it's okay because we've got three (3) superheroes on our side. The Gub'ment, infiltrated by Fascists, starts a program to disarm the population by taking away the freedom (lives) of the elites. Cap beats the poo poo out of them. It couldn't be more right-wing unless the Helicarriers were named "Socialism" "Soviet" and "Obama".
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Dec 7, 2014 04:45
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The elite are explicitly the ones being left behind while everyone else gets laser death, though?
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Dec 7, 2014 05:05
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Captain Bravo posted:The Gub'ment, infiltrated by Fascists, starts a program to disarm the population by taking away the freedom (lives) of the elites. Cap beats the poo poo out of them. It couldn't be more right-wing unless the Helicarriers were named "Socialism" "Soviet" and "Obama". It's the opposite though. The elites are the ones who are using the Thinly Veiled Drone Weapon Metaphor to kill the poor and disenfranchised, plus a few of the elite who oppose them. THAT SAID, the revelation that a guy who thinks it is inappropriate for a billionaire to be allowed to have his own heavily armed international super-weapon without any form of oversight being revealed to be a Literal Nazi Seeking To Destroy Good has some pretty super right wing undertones.
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Dec 7, 2014 05:20
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I'm confused by the reading of Winter Soldier as right-wing, the bad guys are literally the military-industrial complex, drone warfare and the CIA. Would it have been more obvious if it were released during the Bush years?
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Dec 7, 2014 05:48
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You could also read the bad guys as government bureaucrats. You're right people would read it completely different in the Bush years. It comes off as anti-administration whoever happens to be the administration at the time.
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Dec 7, 2014 05:53
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CelticPredator posted:My sex is like a Packers game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7ZE7hguLY
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Dec 7, 2014 06:11
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greatn posted:You could also read the bad guys as government bureaucrats. You're right people would read it completely different in the Bush years. It comes off as anti-administration whoever happens to be the administration at the time. As appropriate to it being part of the Iron Man series, it's libertarian.
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greatn posted:You could also read the bad guys as government bureaucrats. You're right people would read it completely different in the Bush years. It comes off as anti-administration whoever happens to be the administration at the time. Winter soldier is super against giving government control over everything in the name of safety, I'm having a hard time seeing it as right wing. I thought it was actually pretty heavy handed.
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Dec 7, 2014 06:25
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We're at a point where right wing can mean honor your government and also distrust your government.
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Dec 7, 2014 06:58
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Ant Man has wrapped filming apparently. That seems like it went really fast.
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Dec 7, 2014 07:00
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greatn posted:Ant Man has wrapped filming apparently. That seems like it went really fast.
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Dec 7, 2014 07:02
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Josh Lyman posted:90% of it is CGI. Doesn't that usually make filming more complex? When it comes to staging, lighting, special equipment and junk so everything is prepped for green screen properly? Like, looking at behind the scenes of some CGI heavy movies they looked like nightmares to film.
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Dec 7, 2014 07:05
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Pretty sure they have got it down at this point.
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Josh Lyman posted:90% of it is CGI. Really? Is most of the movie in microscopic size then?
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Sir Kodiak posted:As appropriate to it being part of the Iron Man series, it's libertarian. Only the Iron Man sequels are libertarian.
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greatn posted:Ant Man has wrapped filming apparently. That seems like it went really fast. Fast? I feel like I've been hearing about this trainwreck for years now.
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greatn posted:Ant Man has wrapped filming apparently. That seems like it went really fast. Can't wait to see
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Hakkesshu posted:Fast? I feel like I've been hearing about this trainwreck for years now. They didn't even have a director til late July or early August though. So after getting a director they went through all pre-production, script editing, which probably had to be intensive since they just fired the original director/scriptwriter, and did production after that in just a few months.
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Marvel has also been making sure the production kept moving that entire time so the film could hit it's release deadline. And I do think pre-production was already largely finished with Edgar Wright before they got a new director, since one of the big issues with looking for a new director was getting someone in time for filming to start in August. Plus they said they would be editing the script while filming and got a director that would've been cool with that.
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How is Assault on Arkham? The trailer looked good, but DC animated features have been mostly pretty crappy lately.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:How is Assault on Arkham? The trailer looked good, but DC animated features have been mostly pretty crappy lately. Eh. It's fine. It's got the real Amanda Waller in it, so that's cool. I'd recommend it if you really like Deadshot. If you've ever made your boyfriend dress up like Deadshot, you'll like Assault on Arkham
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Dec 7, 2014 22:10
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Deadshot's facial hair changes mid-scene in Assault on Arkham. Repeatedly. It's not great but it's got a bit more character than most of the other recent DC animated features.
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I loved it, but Deadshot is one of my favorite characters, and he was The Man in it. It's a fun, fast-paced heist movie, and surprisingly violent and adult. If it came out in theaters, it would have a strong PG-13 rating.
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Doesn't Harley Quinn violently mangle people and gently caress someone in that movie? I really have trouble reconciling DC's insistence on making the character "adult" with her origins. But that's probably just me. 
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