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Lunsku posted:I haven't really watched Worlds this weekend, because the invitational one Finnish game store has been running over the weekend has been much more fun to watch (and way better commentated too). This looks crazy, have you any highlights from the earlier matches? C-Euro posted:When they first said that M16 would be a special send-off to core sets, my guess was that they were using that window to release MMA2. Guess not! Now I'm really curious to see what M16 will be. Beta reprint, make it happen Wizards, we went over this already. 
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C-Euro posted:When they first said that M16 would be a special send-off to core sets, my guess was that they were using that window to release MMA2. Guess not! Now I'm really curious to see what M16 will be. I'm not sure they've ever actually said anything like that about m16. I think there is a lot of rumor and hope and speculation. If they do something special it might be to throw in full art lands or something of that nature.
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C-Euro posted:When they first said that M16 would be a special send-off to core sets, my guess was that they were using that window to release MMA2. Guess not! Now I'm really curious to see what M16 will be. Haha, it's a far leap in logic from "a special send-off to core sets" to "let's turn Standard into mini-Modern for the next 12 months".\ edit: on the plus side it would mean they could rest easy knowing they hadn't accidentally printed a card they'd need to auto-ban in Modern, unlike some other recent sets
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Gerry T and Brad Nelson slated to face off in the Top 4 of the SCG Open and Gerry concedes before the match to help Brad contend for the Player's Championship  . They should have agreed to play out all the games and just have Gerry concede right before the turn he would have won if he was indeed going to win. Was excited to watch them battle.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Haha, it's a far leap in logic from "a special send-off to core sets" to "let's turn Standard into mini-Modern for the next 12 months".\ If I can't make wild, unfounded leaps in logic on the internet, where can I make them?
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MiddleEastBeast posted:What was your brew? 4 Akroan Hoplite 4 Mardu Ascendancy 4 Monestary Swiftspear 4 Seeker of the Way 4 Butcher of the Horde 4 Goblin Rabblemaster 3 Stoke the Flames 2 Magma Jet 2 Chained to the Rocks 4 Crackling Doom 4 Bloodstained Mire 4 Mountain 1 Swamp 2 Plains 1 Caves of Coilos 2 Temple of Triumph 3 Battlefield Forge 3 Mana Confluence 4 Nomad Outpost 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth --------------- 3 Gods Willing 2 Magma Jet 1 Chained to the Rocks 4 Lighting Strike 1 Stoke the Flames 1 Empty the Pits 3 Utter End Moving forward, I will be cutting 1 magma jet, 1 chained to the rocks, 1 empty the pits for 3 murderous cut in the sideboard. I really just want to play hero's downfall (and have for awhile) but the double black is almost back-breaking to get by turn 4 consistently without killing myself on my mana base. That same very argument could be had with Chained to the Rocks and having mountains, given I only have 4 copies of it, which is essentially why I'm cutting one. Whether or not it's an instant or sorcery speed has almost no bearing whatsoever, because I intend to play all my spells on my turn anyways to use my 8 prowess creatures.
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C-Euro posted:If I can't make wild, unfounded leaps in logic on the internet, where can I make them? I'll defend to the death your right to make, and mine to ridicule, those leaps.
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hey guys I hear they are abolishing the reserved list for M16 and just going hog wild!
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Sotar posted:hey guys I hear they are abolishing the reserved list for M16 and just going hog wild!
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Dec 7, 2014 19:21
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Notice how it is called Modern Masters 2015 and not Modern Masters 2. Implies we could see more of these sets going forward
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Yes, that was mentioned. Bergeot said they're making no guarantees. I mean, MMA2 would still leave the door totally open for MMA3, but I see what you're saying about the year.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Notice how it is called Modern Masters 2015 and not Modern Masters 2. Implies we could see more of these sets going forward Helene Bergeot was asked on that, her answer was a "Maybe. We're keeping our options open." So basically, yeah, they'll probably happen again, since they sell like hotcakes.
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Is the MM2 prerelease going to cost like 60 bucks? Would be cool to open some packs, but singles are going to be a better value than ever.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Is the MM2 prerelease going to cost like 60 bucks? Would be cool to open some packs, but singles are going to be a better value than ever. Supplementary products don't get prereleases, do they?
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Dec 7, 2014 20:04
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Just read the online announcement for it, it's cool that the digital pack MSRP is still $6.99.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Notice how it is called Modern Masters 2015 and not Modern Masters 2. Implies we could see more of these sets going forward That's what I'm talking about.
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Or maybe they called it MM2015 instead of MM2 because that's how they number everything else.
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Dec 7, 2014 20:26
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Is the MM2 prerelease going to cost like 60 bucks? Would be cool to open some packs, but singles are going to be a better value than ever. No Prerelease but any Sealed events your local store(s) wants to run will probably be around that yeah.
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Dec 7, 2014 20:26
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Serperoth posted:Supplementary products don't get prereleases, do they?
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Babylon Astronaut posted:That's a good point. For conspiracy we had a midnight release event, maybe drafting MM2 for 25 bucks or something will go down. I wouldn't count on that.
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Dec 7, 2014 20:29
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I wonder if the MSRP will be more heavily discounted than for other product. Might be a way of letting retailers price according to demand without getting criticized for gouging. I have a theory that many of the limited supplemental products are aimed partly at supporting retailers by giving them something they can earn a massive profit on.
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newtestleper posted:I have a theory that many of the limited supplemental products are aimed partly at supporting retailers by giving them something they can earn a massive profit on. I think Wizards, or at least MaRo, have explicitly said this in the past.
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Wizards has stated short run stuff like FTV is a retailer reward, yeah.Lieutenant Centaur posted:Notice how it is called Modern Masters 2015 and not Modern Masters 2. Wizards doesn't stop printing wildly successful stuff. Look at Commander. MM is in the schedule now, and will be until Modern dies. Anyone who believes otherwise needs to re-read that MSRP a couple times.
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Dec 7, 2014 21:01
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Magic is expanding so fast, they now have the ability to release way more stuff and have people buy it. There's a certain demographic of Magic players that really wants to buy something like MM2 for $10/pack, and five years ago there weren't enough players to justify releasing something like that. Now there is, so Wizards can release this and make a buttload of money. Their business model is going to be wildly successful as long as this picks up because printing additional packs of a set is much cheaper than the initial setup cost. As an economics student, I'd love to read all their secret files on costs of production, development, marketing, and tournaments.
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Dec 7, 2014 21:11
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Being paid more for a set you don't have to design new cards for seems pretty win/win to me. I guess making it a sensible draft environment would require some effort.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Notice how it is called Modern Masters 2015 and not Modern Masters 2. Implies we could see more of these sets going forward I think that's a really funny bit of reasoning. Magic 2016 has the same naming scheme, and there aren't going to be anymore core sets after that one.
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Applebees posted:I think that's a really funny bit of reasoning. Magic 2016 has the same naming scheme, and there aren't going to be anymore core sets after that one. Well they did do quite a few core sets in a row before they decided to stop making them.
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Applebees posted:I think that's a really funny bit of reasoning. Magic 2016 has the same naming scheme, and there aren't going to be anymore core sets after that one. We don't actually know what the last Core Set is going to be called yet, to be fair.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Just read the online announcement for it, it's cool that the digital pack MSRP is still $6.99. I think this is the first time an online product has cost less than its paper counterpart.
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I hope it's The Final Core and they license the riff from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw to use at the FINAL CORE PRO TOUR Also I really find it weird that people automatically assume they're going to slam fetches into MM2015 instead of Dragons of No R&D Time. I mean there's a list of cards in "Cards we can reprint to float a standard set" and "Cards we can't reprint to float a standard set"; which column is Modern Masters supposed to be sold on the back of? Of course since it makes no sense to use stuff from column A I totally imagine they'll do it.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Notice how it is called Modern Masters 2015 and not Modern Masters 2. Implies we could see more of these sets going forward http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/104588417018/is-there-any-reason-why-its-modern-masters-2015 Maro posted:Is there any reason why it's Modern Masters 2015 Edition and not Modern Masters II? I think the latter sounds more prestigious.
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Funny, considering that literally the entire point of the MM series is to keep people from missing out as hard on things that they weren't in on the ground floor of.
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I assume that's also why they switched from numbering editions to going by the year.
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From a psychological and consumer standpoint that Maro answer makes a lot of sense. MM 2015 is saying "this is the newest latest greatest and bestest thing" while MM2 says "This is a sequel to that thing you weren't around for".
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I will say I'm a little surprised that people aren't that pissed about $10 packs. I'll reserve judgment until I see the card list but I am very skeptical. "This card isn't for you," isn't going to cut it as an excuse when I pull Kokusho in a $10 pack.
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Angry Grimace posted:I will say I'm a little surprised that people aren't that pissed about $10 packs. As long as you get at least 2.5x as much enjoyment out of it as a limited environment than other draft formats, that's all that matters
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Angry Grimace posted:I will say I'm a little surprised that people aren't that pissed about $10 packs. Or when you get a Sarkhan and a Jugan as the only mythics from your entire box, and a foil Tooth and Nail as the only card over $10? Yeah, that sure was a good use of $200!
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I'm not pissed, but it means there is almost no chance of me buying them. 3 bucks, I can stand getting a weak pack. 10 bucks, no loving way. I'll just buy a Karn or whatever because gently caress spending hundreds of dollars trying to crack one. Given that a good 80% of all mythic rares are dogshit, I'm not feeling it. I'm stoked that modern staples will be cheaper though. Maybe it will be worth it for the store to just crack a box and sell the singles.
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On the other hand, I'd unironically love to see a sanctioned draft format where every single card was OP as gently caress. Common Goyfs, Uncommon Lilianas, let the bodies fall where they may 
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TheKingofSprings posted:On the other hand, I'd unironically love to see a sanctioned draft format where every single card was OP as gently caress. This is why I have been playing Cube for years. Closest thing you could probably get, outside of wizards going out of business draft
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