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Dangersim posted:Marc Mero was half black? According to Stormfront, or at least their high representation on mma.tv, yes
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fatherdog posted:Anyone rooting for Punk to lose is going to have a while to wait, because he's going to be matched up with 0-0 scrubs by a promotion that has every incentive to see him win. Unlike most 0-0 guys Punk has the time and money to train full time with a full range of top-flight coaches, which means that even given the handicaps of age, pro-wrestling-induced wear-and-tear, and (presumably) lack of PEDs, he's going to have an enormous advantage over the first (at bare minimum) two or three opponents he faces, and that's going to take us through the first year or two of his fight career. In a few years UFC shows will be called by CM Punk and Chael Sonnen.
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I don't know who they're going to match up with Punk for his first fight. They have to put someone else inexperienced in front of him, but I can't see that type of match being part of a PPV. It's one thing if they would of stuck him in a season of TUF but I just can't figure out how this will work.
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Triple Helix posted:They have to put someone else inexperienced in front of him, but I can't see that type of match being part of a PPV. Why not?
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Triple Helix posted:I don't know who they're going to match up with Punk for his first fight. They have to put someone else inexperienced in front of him, but I can't see that type of match being part of a PPV. I can't see why they can't just bring in any nobody off the street they want who can pass the commission. People will pay to see Punk fight, it really doesn't matter who the opponent is as long as they lose.
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MassRafTer posted:In a few years UFC shows will be called by CM Punk and Chael Sonnen. I have no issues with that. Chael was decent on the B-show he did with JR, and Punk did guest commentary in WWE better than drat near anyone in the past 20 years. Triple Helix posted:I don't know who they're going to match up with Punk for his first fight. They have to put someone else inexperienced in front of him, but I can't see that type of match being part of a PPV. Why wouldn't it be part of a PPV? It'd easily be the first fight on the card, and you'd have to have a decent main/semi-main to go with, but I don't see the problem. Punk is going to draw tons of money, you can guarantee that. I mean, I guess you could put him on a Fox card, and have it do record numbers for UFC there, but that just seems like a waste. He only fights for the first time once, and that's where Dana and Lorenzo see money, and frankly why he's signed to UFC and not fighting in some podunk MMA promotion in Arkansas.
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gently caress it, bring in Askren for Punk to fight. Or realistically, let Bisping dome him and we get a Joe Rogan replacement. I love Punk but he really should be thrown to the wolves because thats the best money decision. Unless he gets magically good in several months of training, UFC can only bank on 1 or 2 fights before he's no longer a draw.
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Cart Mountain posted:daniel cormier fought a barista on a pay per view card. A barista who was an accomplished division 1 wrestler and had a few fights.
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coconono posted:I love Punk but he really should be thrown to the wolves because thats the best money decision. Unless he gets magically good in several months of training, UFC can only bank on 1 or 2 fights before he's no longer a draw. 3 fights seems about right to find out if he's got the talent/skills to actually compete. Throw him 1-2 cans, and then someone with a name who is semi-good/experienced to see if he can actually compete. That gets a bunch of buys from WWE fans to see him beat people up, and then gets a bunch of buys from MMA fans who want to see him get killed. After that, if he's no good, put him on the undercard or Fox cards until he retires, or move him into commentary/analyst for Fox.
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fatherdog posted:Why not? I guess it just seems really strange to put a total no name up against him and have it be a part of PPV. At least with Lesnar he had the collegiate wrestling background and had a fight in Japan. It feels like there's a lot of filler fights recently and I'm not excited to have to sit through Punk vs no name local can as part of a paid card.
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Triple Helix posted:I guess it just seems really strange to put a total no name up against him and have it be a part of PPV. At least with Lesnar he had the collegiate wrestling background and had a fight in Japan. I regularly see people I've never heard of on ppv cards.
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Theres absolutely no reason from a business perspective for the ufc not to put him on a paid card other than them having decided they don't like money.
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Literally last night Todd Duffee fought a guy I don't think is real on ppv.
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cm punk beat ryback in hell in a cell so i don't see why he can't beat some vanilla midgets in the octagon
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coconono posted:I love Punk but he really should be thrown to the wolves because thats the best money decision. You aren't very smart.
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Triple Helix posted:I guess it just seems really strange to put a total no name up against him and have it be a part of PPV. There are no-names fighting on the undercard of literally every ppv. In all likelihood Punk's first couple matches are going to be on the televised prelims. quote:It feels like there's a lot of filler fights recently and I'm not excited to have to sit through Punk vs no name local can as part of a paid card. You are probably in a minority in that respect.
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david carmichael posted:i'm excited to see what other freakshows we get in the wake of ufc's lovely business Manhoef vs Shields for 2015
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fedor vs the colossus make it happen joe silva
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Wait did I read Anderson Silva has more fights ahead of him???  After what happened to his leg??? Is he even in fighting shape? I don't even..... 
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fatherdog posted:There are no-names fighting on the undercard of literally every ppv. In all likelihood Punk's first couple matches are going to be on the televised prelims. His first fight is going to be a big enough novelty that they're going to want it on PPV. After that, who knows.
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Jiro posted:Wait did I read Anderson Silva has more fights ahead of him??? Bones actually heal quickly and well.
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cm punk will be fighting cans. unfortunately, his opponents will be fighting a can not am i rite fellas
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Dangersim posted:Bones actually heal quickly and well. Depends on the break. That thing was pretty much Joe Theismann levels of ugly, and those can manage to never heal quite right.
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fatherdog posted:There are no-names fighting on the undercard of literally every ppv. In all likelihood Punk's first couple matches are going to be on the televised prelims. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it's part of the televised prelims. I guess I'm surprised there's enough draw for a guy who's never fought before.
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Triple Helix posted:I wouldn't have a problem with it if it's part of the televised prelims. I guess I'm surprised there's enough draw for a guy who's never fought before. cm punk is a popular guy, you may have heard of him before
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Meat Recital posted:His first fight is going to be a big enough novelty that they're going to want it on PPV. After that, who knows. His first fight is almost certainly going to be on the televised prelims on a show in Chicago.
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Jiro posted:Wait did I read Anderson Silva has more fights ahead of him??? he has a titanium rod in his bone like Lex Luger and last night they played a promo that revealed he has gained the power to murder teenagers in their dreams, so yes. he back.
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Punk should fight the blond kid in this thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSAO8op0ow
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fatherdog posted:His first fight is almost certainly going to be on the televised prelims on a show in Chicago. If his first fight isn't on PPV or Fox I will be beyond shocked. You don't pay a guy what they'd have to pay him and put it on the prelims.
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fatherdog posted:His first fight is almost certainly going to be on the televised prelims on a show in Chicago.
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fatherdog posted:His first fight is almost certainly going to be on the televised prelims on a show in Chicago. There's literally no reason NOT to put him on a PPV for his first fight. He only has one first fight and that could be the biggest draw of his MMA career if he doesn't do well. Putting him on FS1 for free on an undercard doesn't make any sense at all when he has more twitter followers than anyone employed by UFC excluding Dana White and Anderson Silva.
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coconono posted:I love Punk but he really should be thrown to the wolves because thats the best money decision. Unless he gets magically good in several months of training, UFC can only bank on 1 or 2 fights before he's no longer a draw. Or you could you know build him up a bit by letting him beat on whatever the hell a Andy Enz or a Bubba Bush are and then get him a "big" fight after he has gotten some hair on his chest.
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Viper_3000 posted:There's literally no reason NOT to put him on a PPV for his first fight. He only has one first fight and that could be the biggest draw of his MMA career if he doesn't do well. Spoiler: He's going to do well against whatever tomato can they line up for him quote:Putting him on FS1 for free on an undercard doesn't make any sense at all the UFC always, always, always puts a big/popular name on the televised undercard, because it induces people to tune in and then buy the ppv.
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