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Tollymain posted:no i'm pretty sure waking up in exalted's world is just extra reason to roll over and die just...imagine. 
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AmiYumi posted:Imagine what Reddit and 4chan would look like if the world were suddenly Exalted 4chan are Lunars, Reddit are Infernals. 
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Dec 9, 2014 22:47
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Kai Tave posted:Yeah, this was my point from earlier. If you're playing an idealized, exaggerated version of yourself in a world that runs on action movie logic it's not like you're really playing "you" so much anymore. How is it any less "you"? To borrow from Eclipse Phase, if I sleeve you into Indiana Jones' body, it's still you. If you go on an adventure in that body to save the Staff of Destiny from Nazis in colonial India, you're still on that adventure, doing those things. AmiYumi posted:Imagine what Reddit and 4chan would look like if the world were suddenly Exalted DON'T DO THAT
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Dec 9, 2014 22:49
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Zurui posted:How is it any less "you"? I don't think tabletop role playing games are ready for this sort of ontological nightmare.
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Dec 9, 2014 23:03
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Zurui posted:How is it any less "you"? To borrow from Eclipse Phase, if I sleeve you into Indiana Jones' body, it's still you. If you go on an adventure in that body to save the Staff of Destiny from Nazis in colonial India, you're still on that adventure, doing those things. I guess if you ignored the physical differences, personality differences, and obvious superpowers required for the concept to fly then sure, it would be exactly like me.
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I think that's the big disconnect. If I woke up tomorrow with superpowers, I'd still be me. I'd just be a me that can also fly. If I woke up tomorrow and found myself suddenly as an action hero, I'd still be me, just a me that's way better at certain things. When I work out, I don't become another person! The disconnect is the idea that I'd suddenly have this totally different personality. Which is the opposite of what I'm saying! Why on earth would I suddenly have this totally different personality?
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Dec 9, 2014 23:06
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ProfessorCirno posted:If I woke up tomorrow with superpowers, I'd still be me. Would you really, though?
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Dec 9, 2014 23:10
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ProfessorCirno posted:The disconnect is the idea that I'd suddenly have this totally different personality. Which is the opposite of what I'm saying! Why on earth would I suddenly have this totally different personality?
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Dec 9, 2014 23:11
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You might in fact be a hideous insect.
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ProfessorCirno posted:I think that's the big disconnect. If I woke up tomorrow with superpowers, I'd still be me. I'd just be a me that can also fly. If I woke up and had superpowers I'd still be me, which means I wouldn't rush off to fight Nazis and aliens, I'd probably try to leverage my sweet superpowers to make a zillion dollars and retire young. But because doing that would basically be the "I sit at home and do nothing" option and damnit Bob we game once a week if that, can you at least try to play along, the whole concept hinges on me pretending that my response to gaining superpowers.wouldn't be how it would actually play out but instead "I decide to act like an RPG protagonist I guess."
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AmiYumi posted:Imagine what Reddit and 4chan would look like if the world were suddenly Exalted So...it'd be baseline Exalted?
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So, I'm an Eagle Scout. I have been a lot of camping trips, I've hunted with guns, traps, and a bow and arrow, I can make camps fire, etc. I'm not a bad shot with a rifle, but I don't practice often. Also, I only know basic first aid and I haven't done it in a while. I'm a little overweight, but I do regularly attend a gym and can do decent cardio and weight lifting. I've been in a lot of fist fights in my life because of a mix of lovely school and lovely neighborhood: wouldn't call myself good at fighting. What are my chances in a zombie apocalypse?
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Dec 9, 2014 23:38
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Making up characters is fun and I have a giant backlog of ideas I'm dying to use.
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Covok posted:What are my chances in a zombie apocalypse? Pretty good, because zombies aren't real
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See everyone always goes zombie apocalypse but I would like to suggest a new one: what if you were transported to an alternate dimension and had to use your existing skills to fit into its similar-but-crazy world. Bureaucracy might be loving awesome if you wound up in some weird hell and got drafted to do soul taxes or some poo poo, whereas I'm a tour guide most of the time and my major skill would be taking groups of demons around and showing them things while talking. "Over here on your left you'll see Bereth's Falls, where the blood of the ten thousand sinners that are being tortured in his dungeons washes into the river Acheron. Not many people know this, but there was actually a small pre-existing blood stream at this site before Bereth built his torture castle. In fact it's why Bereth was drawn here in the first place! All hail Bereth, by the way, don't want to incur his wrath and wind up in those dungeons ourselves! C'mon let's give him a rousing cheer. Yeah! Now on your right you'll see the distinctive rock formations of the Needles, each one skewering some poor unfortunate. See if anyone you know's up there!" Edit: Basically what if you were in the webcomic http://killsixbilliondemons.com/ which everyone should read cause it's awesome.
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Kai Tave posted:If I woke up and had superpowers I'd still be me, which means I wouldn't rush off to fight Nazis and aliens, I'd probably try to leverage my sweet superpowers to make a zillion dollars and retire young. That would be my response, sure. That would probably be most people's response. I'm sure a few would become masked vigilantes (because there's always that guy), but yeah I'd definitely want to get rich and live a life of luxury instead of fight crime, nazis, aliens, or do anything else that would make people want to kill me. Kai Tave posted:But because doing that would basically be the "I sit at home and do nothing" option No it wouldn't. A session of "how did you get rich quick with your superhuman <thing>" (which would be fun!), then cut to "undead nazis (aliens, illuminati, vampires, evil government agency) have noticed you and want to cut you up for their supersoldier research program" or whatever other of the many dude-with-superpowers-doesn't-get-to-relax storylines you want to go with. Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 9, 2014 |
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AmiYumi posted:At a certain point, I feel like the disconnect would make sense; a lot of RPGs sort of function on (lucid) dream logic. "There's no way this could be real, let's have some fun with it." "It was all a dream" could make for a fun meta-device for a roleplaying game. You and your friends share a dream and then wake up in the real world.
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If I woke up with crazy superpowers and found out there were evil secret nazi wizard illuminatis with some plots then maybe I'm unique in my response of TIME TO SUPER-PUNCH SOME NAZIS. If I and some buds were reading a magic book and got teleported to a fantasy world the last thing I'd do is just sit back and do nothing. That's a clear sign that it's time for some adventures.
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Zurui posted:"It was all a dream" could make for a fun meta-device for a roleplaying game. You and your friends share a dream and then wake up in the real world. You and your friends are trapped in a full-immersion VR superheroes video game. You make it out, but it's given you the powers you had in the game in the real world. I'd be amazed if there isn't already a comic book about this. ProfessorCirno posted:If I and some buds were reading a magic book and got teleported to a fantasy world the last thing I'd do is just sit back and do nothing. That's a clear sign that it's time for some adventures. Have you read The Magicians?
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AlphaDog posted:Have you read The Magicians? I've not! I read the wiki on it and it sounds depressing. Totally not what would happen, nope. It'd be rad adventures.
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It's really worth a read. I'd stop at the first one though.
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As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a Lawful Good Paladin.
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Esser-Z posted:You might in fact be a hideous insect. Look, I already said I don't want to play myself.
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Everybody always thinks they're gonna be the wizard, but it turns out 99.99% of the denizens of Heartbreakerland are poo poo farmers. Just sayin'.
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Esser-Z posted:You might in fact be a hideous insect. Or a butterfly dreaming that it's a human. Or a brain in a jar. Or the mouthy athletic manifestation of some weird gestalt Zanar--  ProfessorCirno posted:I think that's the big disconnect. If I woke up tomorrow with superpowers, I'd still be me. I'd just be a me that can also fly. Let me put it this way. It's no secret--a lot of my characters are prettyboys. I try my best to take them in different directions, but odds are they're at least a little attractive. Everybody makes light of it and I laugh along with it too. No great harm. Now imagine you have a campaign that goes "a gooey kablooie gives you-yourself superpowers, what do you wake up with?" and I said "inhuman ethereal beauty and glamour." That's a recipe for a Worst TTRPG Experience at best and would probably reveal actual depressive/control mental issues at worst. Either way it would get me roundly laughed at as one of those delusional sorts who thinks he's in an anime and make an absolute firestorm of accusations as to what particular mental disorder I've got.
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Part of successful role playing is understanding the flaws (of personality and skill) of one's character and representing them candidly and earnestly; it really shouldn't be that hard, then, to understand why some might not want to role play themselves, or might feel that they aren't up to the task. Real self-appraisal takes a lot of time.
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grassy gnoll posted:Everybody always thinks they're gonna be the wizard, but it turns out 99.99% of the denizens of Heartbreakerland are poo poo farmers. Just sayin'. Commoners who live in fear of the common house cat.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Commoners who live in fear of the common house cat. In fairness, the wizard also lives in mortal terror of the house cat until he has a few counts of felony murder to his name.
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Dec 10, 2014 00:48
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We all live in the shadow of Patches the Destroyer.
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grassy gnoll posted:Everybody always thinks they're gonna be the wizard, but it turns out 99.99% of the denizens of Heartbreakerland are poo poo farmers. Just sayin'. Yeah, but we're talking rather explicitly about a game where it's "wake up and now you're a protagonist." Davin Valkri posted:Let me put it this way. It's no secret--a lot of my characters are prettyboys. I try my best to take them in different directions, but odds are they're at least a little attractive. Everybody makes light of it and I laugh along with it too. No great harm. That'd be a dickhead thing to do! There's no difference between "I turn into this loving rad wizard with fireballs and lightning bolts and a skull because DEATH IS CERTAIN" and "I become this sweet beguiling fey enchanter who bends the wills of my enemies with my near supernatural glamour." If people are ok with the former and not the latter, I pronounce them dickheads.
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grassy gnoll posted:In fairness, the wizard also lives in mortal terror of the house cat until he has a few counts of felony murder to his name. The wizard was pretty certain the goblin had a weapon. What was he supposed to do, tell the filthy creature to stand down? He's risking his life here!
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:We all live in the shadow of Patches the Destroyer. Zurui posted:The wizard was pretty certain the goblin had a weapon. What was he supposed to do, tell the filthy creature to stand down? He's risking his life here!  , let me keep elfgame-chat a pleasant diversion.
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AmiYumi posted:Please don't. I already have to ration how much time I spend in D&D lately to avoid No, I understand. I don't play dungeon crawl games as it is because of the implications. Sorry if I offended 
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AmiYumi posted:Where/what is your avatar from? It's a very...unique take on the character. It's a prolific Japanese voice actor named Sugita from when he was on Persona Stalker Club. He dressed up like Yukiko when they were playing Persona 4 Arena Ultimax.  
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Zurui posted:No, I understand. I don't play dungeon crawl games as it is because of the implications. Sorry if I offended RocknRollaAyatollah posted:It's a prolific Japanese voice actor named Sugita from when he was on Persona Stalker Club. He dressed up like Yukiko when they were playing Persona 4 Arena Ultimax. ...internet says "yes". New show to watch, yay!
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Sugita's basically the coolest guy. He had a whole TV show that was just about him, buddy voice actor Yuuichi Nakamura and maybe some other unfortunate schmuck in the biz sitting around playing video games and telling goony jokes. I would metaphorically kill people for more translated episodes of Tokyo Encounter. ...There is actually a translated episode I have not seen.  I might have to go kill somebody now, just to balance it out.Edit: It's amazing that neither one of us identified him with his numerous pretty great anime roles. No, we had to talk about the show where he sits around playing video games. Siivola fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 02:08
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He was only on the one episode by the way. The bald guy and the woman are the usual hosts.
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I have been working on a tutorial for making maps based off my
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AlphaDog posted:You and your friends are trapped in a full-immersion VR superheroes video game. You make it out, but it's given you the powers you had in the game in the real world. I'd be amazed if there isn't already a comic book about this. If you still have the powers, I'd say there's a 100% chance you're still trapped in the game. Could still be an interesting situation.
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Mad Jaqk posted:If you still have the powers, I'd say there's a 100% chance you're still trapped in the game. Could still be an interesting situation. "Or are you?" would be driving the plot, yeah. As far as RPG scenarios go, "you're trapped in a video game and can't escape" and "you've escaped from a video game and retained your powers" both seem pretty interesting.
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