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Luceo posted:the power user type Luceo posted:on Sprint  Root isn't gonna fix your problem.
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Dec 9, 2014 04:48
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Luceo posted:No idea what you're talking about. Mooktastical posted:Sony devices...have almost entirely stock UI's with very inoffensive additions, and SD card slots. A friend of mine has the Note 3. I have a Z1s. His has smaller bezels, a stylus and TouchWiz, while mine has slightly larger bezels and lacks the stylus and lovely UI. They're otherwise identical. To give you an idea of how close the Sony skin is to AOSP, GravityBox is stated to only run for AOSP roms, and runs on my Z1S 100% bug free. You're talking about the Nexus line like it's the only phone with a non-hosed ui, and presenting the outmoded idea of using a Note with CM like it's the only solution. The problem with that idea is that it is but one of a group of solutions to that problem, and one that is far from optimal.
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Dec 9, 2014 05:07
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Whizbang posted:
No argument there.  Mooktastical posted:Primarily this: Didn't know that about the Sony devices, but I'd probably lean toward Moto anyway based on how well-built my old DroidX is. I never presented a custom rom as the only solution, just that my experience has been so good that I wouldn't consider a stock rom ever again. That may change when I look to get a new phone based on the reports in this thread, but that'll be some time from now since I see no reason to upgrade.
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Dec 9, 2014 05:50
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Luceo posted:I never presented a custom rom as the only solution, just that my experience has been so good that I wouldn't consider a stock rom ever again. That may change when I look to get a new phone based on the reports in this thread, but that'll be some time from now since I see no reason to upgrade. I know exactly where you're coming from, and were this the era of Ice Cream Sandwich you'd be preaching to the choir. I used to obsessively root and hack every android I owned because it was the only guaranteed software support. Nowadays I have a locked N7 I manually upgraded to 5.0 and regret, an Nvidia Shield running stock, and a GS3 I'm going to replace with another stock device - likely the Z3 Compact but we'll see what comes out in the next three months. Stock Android is the ideal, but manufacturers that aren't Samsung have learned users like things being close to stock. I hear even Samsung is learning, too.
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Dec 9, 2014 05:57
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Mooktastical posted:Root is required, roms aren't. The two aren't mutually exclusive. A smartphone is not a computer. The usage paradigms are entirely different.
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Dec 9, 2014 06:17
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A Samsung... ...running community-built software... ...on Sprint. Just let all of that sink in and contemplate what true power is.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:34
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LastInLine posted:A Samsung... Hey! What are you trying to say, I can check two of these on my list... ...but then I live in Europe, the land of the free, the consumer rights and we don't have these lovely carriers  .Joking aside. A few weeks ago, a coworker that had his SGS4 with the 4.4.4 Google Edition rom busted his screen, took it to the carrier's shop and they told him they were giving him a replacement and didn't care about the unlocked bootloader, custom rom and that poo poo, even after clearly noticing it. The reply from the store clerk was "it may break Samsung's warranty, but not ours, we are only concerned hardware-wise". I asked him if Orange (carrier's name) was OK with me running the developer preview on a windows phone I got from them to mess around and was basically the same, in fact he told me that way was faster to get OS updates and being Microsoft's official patching it was acceptable. Come to Europe and live the old world dream!
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Dec 9, 2014 11:46
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Guillermus posted:Hey! What are you trying to say, I can check two of these on my list... I think that he's missing the point of the thread title which wasn't that Samsungs don't need ROMs, it's that there's no reason to buy Samsungs which need fixing when there are tons of options that don't. vvv When you're dealing with pure power you've got to go big or go home. ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Dec 9, 2014 |
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Dec 9, 2014 12:40
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Ahh. So carrier availability, network speeds, and data plan pricing are what makes one a 'power user'.
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Dec 9, 2014 12:55
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Processor. 1.7GHz MTK6592 Octa Core my car has many of the same specs a locomotive would, but I wouldn't expect anyone to commute to work in a locomotive and I don't expect to pull freight with my car. A phone is not a computer.
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Dec 9, 2014 14:24
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LastInLine posted:I'm saying that the dude is a "power user" but has a device on a carrier with speeds half half as good as the next slowest carrier (and three times slower than the fastest). Their coverage isn't great either but I'll concede as a T-Mobile user that if it covers where you are, the coverage is good enough. I know I know, that's why on a previous post I made, I said that today I wouldn't buy a Samsung phone when you just can go with a Motorola, Sony, HTC or nexus device and get a better experience overall without the need of messing with the OS. Back in the Note II days if you wanted a large screen yes, you were forced to buy a Samsung, now there's more than enough competition and carriers offer a wide selection of devices that choosing a Samsung is just because the user WANTS it, even with all the negative points it carries when compared to other options. In Spain, some Samsung users are like they're owning the android counterpart of an iPhone and they're like the childs that argue on youtube on the whole Xbox vs Playstation and what is better 
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Dec 9, 2014 14:32
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I'm attempting to update my M7 to 5.0.1. I was rooted because there were a few Xposed modules I was running, but some of the stuff I was using either is available in Lollipop, or has a close-enough alternate solution. I also originally had the Dev edition direct from HTC, and I converted it to the GPE. It has the correct CID (in fact, it gets the notification for an update to 5.0.1 available,) but I had to put on a custom recovery to load it. Now I can't, for the life of me, get the drat stock 4.4.4 recovery. I have found both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 recoveries, but not 4.4.4. And yes, I tried to install the update manually from both of them, and they fail. I found one XDA thread claiming to link to the 4.4.4 recovery, but the download page didn't link directly to the img file, it linked to an EXE for some sort of "download software" that promised to download the img file...I did NOT download it because I like not having viruses or spyware on my laptop. So basically, is there anywhere out there that has the drat stock stock M7 4.4.4 recovery?
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Dec 9, 2014 15:35
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LastInLine posted:I'm saying that the dude is a "power user" but has a device on a carrier with speeds half half as good as the next slowest carrier (and three times slower than the fastest). Their coverage isn't great either but I'll concede as a T-Mobile user that if it covers where you are, the coverage is good enough. The coverage I have is good enough, yes, and I stay for the unlimited data. It's not like there are good options at all for phone carriers in the US. I'm not really missing the point of the thread title, I just disagree. It's not gospel. I root anything I have with an operating system that can be rooted, because this: Citizen Tayne posted:A phone is not a computer. Is loving ridiculous. The only thing I can't do on my phone that I do on my laptop is play more demanding games. If someone tried to sell you a laptop without admin access to the OS, that would sound crazy, and I don't see a difference anymore. It's mine and I will be root.
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Dec 9, 2014 17:16
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So I got one of these HTC Desire 510s for 30 bucks the other day and it's locked to sprint prepaid. Is there a way I can... a. Put an ATT sim card in and unlock it through shady means b. Get past the 'registration' lockdown so I can use it like an iPod c. Root it/hack it in any way I figured if I couldn't get it to work on ATT I could use it as a GPS or something but I'm not sure how to even get past the registration screen. I guess I could buy some minutes for it and then will it allow me to use it for WiFi only indefinitely or will it lock me down when the minutes run out?
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Dec 9, 2014 17:22
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Luceo posted:Is loving ridiculous. The only thing I can't do on my phone that I do on my laptop is play more demanding games. If someone tried to sell you a laptop without admin access to the OS, that would sound crazy, and I don't see a difference anymore. It's mine and I will be root. "Power users" trying to force a computer user paradigm onto a communications device is the number one impediment to smartphone usability right now.
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Dec 9, 2014 17:41
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Citizen Tayne posted:"Power users" trying to force a computer user paradigm onto a communications device is the number one impediment to smartphone usability right now. If you weren't talking out your rear end before, you definitely are now. Just because the computer is smaller doesn't mean it somehow stops being exactly what it is. Your analogy doesn't work either, Steve Jobs beat you to the punch when he called the desktop computer a truck.
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Dec 9, 2014 18:47
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Citizen Tayne posted:A phone is not a computer. com·put·er kəmˈpyo͞odər/ noun noun: computer; plural noun: computers an electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:10
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:If you weren't talking out your rear end before, you definitely are now. A smartphone is a communications device first and foremost. Treating it like a tiny laptop only interferes with the primary purpose. One-size-fits-all results in a poor fit for everyone.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:19
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This is a fascinating conversation that will inevitably lead to increased understanding and changed opinions all around.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:38
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I'm converted. I should only use my phone for texts and calls, got it!
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Dec 9, 2014 21:07
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On an entirely unrelated note, I recently got my Oneplus One, and rooted it, and I'm trying to make it pretty and shiny. I installed Nova and Zooper, and I'm trying to install custom fonts, and failing. I followed the instructions I found here (using iFont): http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-new-fonts-on-the-android-platform/ , but nothing happens. I click install, I get and approve the request for superuser access, the phone reboots, and the new fonts are still nowhere to be found. Can any of y'all imagine what I might be doing wrong?
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Dec 9, 2014 23:54
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Dancer posted:Can any of y'all imagine what I might be doing wrong? You got a Oneplus One.
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Dec 9, 2014 23:56
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Nevermind, I was able to temp boot into TWRP and flash supersu and did it. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 00:19
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I did an arduino workshop a few years ago, and all attendees were asked to bring a computer. Everyone set up their laptops at their stations. Everyone except the guy with a disgusting beard. He set up his motorola droid and a bluetooth keyboard. The instructor told him he would need a computer, as we were going to be working with the arduino ide and needed to connect to it via USB. Beard man smugly said "My phone is a computer." and plugged the arduino into his USB OTG cable. The instructor was a little confused and told beard man that he wouldn't be able to install the arduino ide, that they only had versions for mac, windows, and linux. Beardman responded, again smugly "Android IS linux". The instructor said good luck and let him paw at his phone for the entirety of the workshop. Your phone isn't a computer. Don't be the smelly beard man.
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Dec 10, 2014 00:41
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RZA Encryption posted:I did an arduino workshop a few years ago, and all attendees were asked to bring a computer. Everyone set up their laptops at their stations. Everyone except the guy with a disgusting beard. He set up his motorola droid and a bluetooth keyboard. The instructor told him he would need a computer, as we were going to be working with the arduino ide and needed to connect to it via USB. Beard man smugly said "My phone is a computer." and plugged the arduino into his USB OTG cable. The instructor was a little confused and told beard man that he wouldn't be able to install the arduino ide, that they only had versions for mac, windows, and linux. Beardman responded, again smugly "Android IS linux". The instructor said good luck and let him paw at his phone for the entirety of the workshop. This is Android
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Dec 10, 2014 01:41
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RZA Encryption posted:I did an arduino workshop a few years ago, and all attendees were asked to bring a computer. Everyone set up their laptops at their stations. Everyone except the guy with a disgusting beard. He set up his motorola droid and a bluetooth keyboard. The instructor told him he would need a computer, as we were going to be working with the arduino ide and needed to connect to it via USB. Beard man smugly said "My phone is a computer." and plugged the arduino into his USB OTG cable. The instructor was a little confused and told beard man that he wouldn't be able to install the arduino ide, that they only had versions for mac, windows, and linux. Beardman responded, again smugly "Android IS linux". The instructor said good luck and let him paw at his phone for the entirety of the workshop. It's entirely possible to install Linux on a phone but dear God why would you ever want to?
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Dec 10, 2014 02:09
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nimper posted:It's entirely possible to install Linux on a phone but dear God why would you ever want to? Luceo posted:Perhaps the average person doesn't need to, but they never did. If you want complete control of a device you own, like I do for any computer of mine, then yes, it's required.
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Dec 10, 2014 02:25
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I recompiled the IDE in java and created an APK on my SDcard I can install via OTG USB with my micro card reader. Stupid computer doesn't have a built in SD slot.
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Dec 10, 2014 03:19
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Oh my lord what are we even arguing about now
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Dec 10, 2014 03:30
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Root thread has no brakes.
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Dec 10, 2014 04:43
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Rexxed posted:Root thread has no brakes. We rooted, granted superuser privileges to mount system as R/W, and deleted them.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:03
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Dancer posted:On an entirely unrelated note, I recently got my Oneplus One, and rooted it, and I'm trying to make it pretty and shiny. I installed Nova and Zooper, and I'm trying to install custom fonts, and failing. I followed the instructions I found here (using iFont): http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-new-fonts-on-the-android-platform/ , but nothing happens. I click install, I get and approve the request for superuser access, the phone reboots, and the new fonts are still nowhere to be found. Can any of y'all imagine what I might be doing wrong? The fonts themselves can be found on the play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cm.font.calibri https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.net.finger.ubuntufont Install a few and then you should be able to change them system wide with the theme manager. Not sure if you can choose freely with zooper or if it only switches the default font. Probably the latter.
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Dec 10, 2014 05:05
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Rooted a cheapo Android tablet and threw both Adblock and Adaway on there, but I still get ads on Youtube vids. Any way to fix this, it's moderately annoying.
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Dec 10, 2014 08:33
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regulargonzalez posted:Rooted a cheapo Android tablet and threw both Adblock and Adaway on there, but I still get ads on Youtube vids. Any way to fix this, it's moderately annoying.
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Dec 10, 2014 09:54
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RZA Encryption posted:I did an arduino workshop a few years ago, and all attendees were asked to bring a computer. Everyone set up their laptops at their stations. Everyone except the guy with a disgusting beard. He set up his motorola droid and a bluetooth keyboard. The instructor told him he would need a computer, as we were going to be working with the arduino ide and needed to connect to it via USB. Beard man smugly said "My phone is a computer." and plugged the arduino into his USB OTG cable. The instructor was a little confused and told beard man that he wouldn't be able to install the arduino ide, that they only had versions for mac, windows, and linux. Beardman responded, again smugly "Android IS linux". The instructor said good luck and let him paw at his phone for the entirety of the workshop. Um, excuse me, an Android phone can do ANYTHING a laptop can except play high-end games, so says Luceo. This is why you also see film studios editing movies on Motos X.
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Dec 10, 2014 14:25
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Zom Aur posted:Cyanogenmod has a new theme engine from a few months back which can mess around with fonts. It's a bit easier than whatever that article seems to do. I appreciate the help, but I'm trying to install fonts that aren't in the Play store. For reference, I'm trying to design my home screen in a way similar to this: http://www.customspsd.com/grey-sky-android-homescreen-android-customizations/ . I found and downloaded the fonts from somewhere on the net, but I can't get my phone to use them.
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Dec 10, 2014 15:13
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Endless Mike posted:Um, excuse me, an Android phone can do ANYTHING a laptop can except play high-end games, so says Luceo. This is why you also see film studios editing movies on Motos X. Sometimes to entertain myself I go watch computers become not-computers when their specs become old enough that film studios are unable to edit video on them. It's like an angel getting its wings.
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Dec 10, 2014 16:18
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nocal posted:Sometimes to entertain myself I go watch computers become not-computers when their specs become old enough that film studios are unable to edit video on them. It's like an angel getting its wings. A smartphone is a communications device, not a computer.
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Citizen Tayne posted:A smartphone is a communications device, not a computer. com·put·er kəmˈpyo͞odər/ noun noun: computer; plural noun: computers an electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.
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