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Require More Fire posted:Finally got 5.0.1 on my 2013 N7. I don't see any Smart Lock options. Is there no Smart Lock for tablets or something?
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Haha I just realized that I'd forgotten about the n9 cover. I wonder if that thing will never come around.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:06
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Hell yeah I also just received the 5.0.1 update for my Nexus 7. Looks great! Gotta play some more with it though.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:11
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ChiTownEddie posted:Haha I just realized that I'd forgotten about the n9 cover. I wonder if that thing will never come around. It's shipping from Play, and Amazon told me mine's on the road as of last week.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:14
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Caphi posted:It's shipping from Play, and Amazon told me mine's on the road as of last week. Still says "Coming soon" on the play store for me?
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Dec 8, 2014 22:18
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beerinator posted:Still says "Coming soon" on the play store for me? Yeah, same here, I haven't ever seen it in stock.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:19
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Oh, the origami cover. Sorry, mine's the folio.
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Require More Fire posted:Finally got 5.0.1 on my 2013 N7. I don't see any Smart Lock options. Is there no Smart Lock for tablets or something? You need to turn on smart lock in trust agents under security before you can use it.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:29
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mars posted:You need to turn on smart lock in trust agents under security before you can use it. Oh, there it is. Rad. Thanks!
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Dec 9, 2014 01:37
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Caphi posted:Oh, the origami cover. Sorry, mine's the folio. You'd think the origami cover would be the easier one to produce, so something really must have gone wrong with the entire batch.
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Dec 9, 2014 04:57
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At this point 5.0.1 is performing much better than 5 did on my N7 but I'd have to give it a couple of weeks before saying it truly fixed things.
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Dec 9, 2014 06:43
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Tunga posted:It requires the latest Play Services as well. Furthermore, in order for the option to show up after the Play Services package was updated, the device needs to be rebooted.
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Dec 9, 2014 06:45
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kitten smoothie posted:Furthermore, in order for the option to show up after the Play Services package was updated, the device needs to be rebooted. Sometimes just one reboot won't fix it and you'll just need to wait for a while.
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Dec 9, 2014 10:44
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Require More Fire posted:Finally got 5.0.1 on my 2013 N7. I don't see any Smart Lock options. Is there no Smart Lock for tablets or something? I think the Smart Lock comes in a Google Play Services update, not sure if it has been released yet.
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Dec 9, 2014 15:15
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Freescale announces a 15W Qi wireless charging circuit. This could be nice; the battery on the Nexus 7 takes pretty long to charge up from zero on 5W Qi. http://otp.investis.com/clients/us/free_scale/usn/usnews-story.aspx?newsid=22270&cid=896
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Dec 9, 2014 18:38
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rt_hat posted:I think the Smart Lock comes in a Google Play Services update, not sure if it has been released yet. Came some time ago to my N10 and works fine so far. Anyways, why a 8MB 0.0.1 Android update forces all apps to recompile? That takes forever 
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Dec 9, 2014 23:16
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So I got a notification for the OTA update and I tapped accept. It even told me to reboot to install and then I noticed that my N7 looked exactly the same after 10 minutes. Now my tablet tells me there are no new system updates but I know it's lying but what else can I do? Kitkat will now stay with me during this holiday time and together we will welcome in the new year.
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Dec 9, 2014 23:49
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Anyone with a Nexus 9 (or maybe another tablet) able to use the new X-ray function in the updated Kindle app? I've got the current version of Kindle on both my Nexus 5 and 9 and the button appears on both, but it's grayed out on the 9. Everything works the way it should on my 5. If you've never seen the X-ray button, it's up in the top kindle nav bar, to the left of the font button.
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Dec 10, 2014 03:30
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StealthArcher posted:I'm thinking of a tablet as an idea for my mother this Christmas, she'd use it for the usual, movies, phone attachment, etc. but she also does semi-professional photography. That being mostly freelance with some contract work. Is a tablet like the nexus 9 or tab S going to be usable for checking out pictures taken on a higher end DSLR, namely, can you get cables if the camera itself has USB micro and use them to pull to the tablet itself? And can you do minor photo work on them? Nothing major like a PS or GIMP run, just cropping, rotation, some color correction and the like. Just cross posting for lookovers.
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Dec 10, 2014 12:15
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Alder posted:So I got a notification for the OTA update and I tapped accept. It even told me to reboot to install and then I noticed that my N7 looked exactly the same after 10 minutes. Now my tablet tells me there are no new system updates but I know it's lying but what else can I do?
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Dec 10, 2014 13:05
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Just did the 5.0.1 update on my 2013 N7 and finally YouTube videos work again. I noticed though during the update it had to go through the 'optimizing apps' step again where it precompiles all of the applications for ART. Is this going to be a new thing with every single little update (even a 0.0.1 update)? Good grief. At least the thing works as well as it did before Lollipop finally.
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Dec 10, 2014 19:59
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2013 N7 5.0.1 update: Think the memory issue is still there. Pocketcasts will skip and eventually pause/crash when running something like Clash of Clans or even launching facebook. A reboot seemed to have temporarily resolved this but noticing sluggishness and such.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:41
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Is there a tablet app thread, or is there a page for nice apps every tablet should have?
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Dec 10, 2014 20:53
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mod sassinator posted:Just did the 5.0.1 update on my 2013 N7 and finally YouTube videos work again. I noticed though during the update it had to go through the 'optimizing apps' step again where it precompiles all of the applications for ART. Is this going to be a new thing with every single little update (even a 0.0.1 update)? Good grief. At least the thing works as well as it did before Lollipop finally.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:16
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LastInLine posted:Yes. Why wouldn't it be? Ignoring the horrible user experience, why would a fix for an unrelated thing (like the video player having the wrong path) require the regeneration of all precompiled code? This is just stupid lazy programmer behavior IMHO. Honestly why does this precompilation have to be something that happens in the foreground at all? It should happen as a background task while the device is idle. I expect a lot more from Google's developers IMHO.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:25
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mod sassinator posted:Honestly why does this precompilation have to be something that happens in the foreground at all? It should happen as a background task while the device is idle. I expect a lot more from Google's developers IMHO. Because then you have a situation where a user updates, then immediately tries running an app that hasn't been pre-processed yet. What do you then? What about when push messages come in for an app that hasn't been dealt with yet, or if the app is a launcher or widget? The system would be in some weird mixed-up state of brokenness, from the user perspective, until everything converges. OTAs happen what, a few times a year? It's a few minutes at most to chew through your apps.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:35
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I really don't know if that's the only thing that went into .1 because .1 went out to other devices that did not have the video bug. If anything changes in the runtime, it's going to require it to go through the "optimizing apps" phase after an update.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:36
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kitten smoothie posted:Because then you have a situation where a user updates, then immediately tries running an app that hasn't been pre-processed yet. What do you then? The precompilation is an optimization. An app can run without being precompiled, just that the startup will be a little bit slower.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:37
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mod sassinator posted:The precompilation is an optimization. An app can run without being precompiled, just that the startup will be a little bit slower. I'm pretty sure that changed with ART. Dalvik was just doing optimizations, ART's precompile process now is basically converting the dex file to machine code ahead of time.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:40
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mod sassinator posted:Ignoring the horrible user experience, why would a fix for an unrelated thing (like the video player having the wrong path) require the regeneration of all precompiled code? This is just stupid lazy programmer behavior IMHO. mod sassinator posted:Honestly why does this precompilation have to be something that happens in the foreground at all? It should happen as a background task while the device is idle. I expect a lot more from Google's developers IMHO.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:41
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Has anyone run into issues with the touchscreen becoming less responsive with 5.0.1 on their 2013 Nexus 7? I got the OTA 2 days ago and the amount of times I've have to double or triple tap something is worrisome.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:49
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I dunno I think this is just endemic of the difference between Apple and Android. In the Apple world this kind of stuff wouldn't fly at all. There's no reason a user needs to stare at a useless (to them) progress bar that takes 10 minutes to finish. Put all that crap in the background and get the user back to using the device as fast as possible.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:50
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Apple updates take forever these days, and show a thermometer bar which fills up in a manner that has zero relation to the actual amount of time spent updating. The difference between Apple and Android is Apple updates just don't tell you anything. If the ART precompile phase happened in the recovery during the update instead of after rebooting, and all you saw was a progress bar instead of "Optimizing Applications," nobody'd ever be the wiser.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:55
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 Regardless I still think it's a crap user experience to waste time with this stuff in the foreground. If optimization from the very start is so darn important, why doesn't Google cache the precompiled binaries for important devices (like the Nexus devices they build!) in their cloud and just download precompiled binaries from the start?
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Dec 10, 2014 21:57
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mod sassinator posted:I dunno I think this is just endemic of the difference between Apple and Android. In the Apple world this kind of stuff wouldn't fly at all. There's no reason a user needs to stare at a useless (to them) progress bar that takes 10 minutes to finish. Put all that crap in the background and get the user back to using the device as fast as possible. I'm constantly having touchscreen issues on both KitKat and Lollipop on my '13 N7. Pretty sure it's a well known issue in the hardware.
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kitten smoothie posted:Apple updates take forever these days, and show a thermometer bar which fills up in a manner that has zero relation to the actual amount of time spent updating. This is true. At one point last week I was staring at 'Optimising apps' on my N7 and the Apple logo with a nonsensical progress bar, and 'Getting ready' (or something equally inane) on my Windows 10 test laptop all at the same time.
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Dec 10, 2014 22:29
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mod sassinator posted:get the user back to using the device as fast as possible. kitten smoothie posted:If the ART precompile phase happened in the recovery during the update instead of after rebooting, and all you saw was a progress bar instead of "Optimizing Applications," nobody'd ever be the wiser. Also it's not useless information, it shows the progress as a xx of yy number. As far as updates go it's a lot more informative than any update I've ever received on OS X which just show an unlabeled bar that doesn't move at a consistent rate or in some Windows updates where it's just a string of phrases out of the SimCity loading screen.
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Sometimes Windows just really needs to reticulate some splines before it can run properly.
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LastInLine posted:Next time it asks you to do it, pay attention to what it says on the screen with the Android on its back with its chest open. It will tell you why it failed. It told me: error. Luckily, N7 seemed OK after rebooting 
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