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BlueBayou posted:I hope it turns out that the two witnesses are Jenny and Abbie. And they've just thought it was Crane because he was present during all this wacky stuff. But really its Jenny. Ichabod may have been chosen as one years ago, but due to taking the Horseman's head and then 200 years of sleeping, another pair of witnesses were chosen to prevent Moloch's next try. Then suddenly Ichabod is back, and now the prophecies are all hosed up and off-balance. Katrina's coven did punish her pretty hard for saving Ichabod's life, so it must have been a pretty big no-no. Or Katrina is Ichabod's Witness-partner, and the coven just stuck her in purgatory so they still had a chance of being a matched set when he woke up. Even if Ichabod hadn't freed her, she may have been around at the end. When Moloch started to merge the worlds, some of his army slipped through. Perhaps the plan was for Katrina to come with them and do some last-minute save.
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That would be a nice companion point to Moloch revealing that Hell's been deploying Horsemen throughout history to set off the apocalypse. Maybe Heaven's been doing the same with Witnesses to continually avert it?
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Binary Badger posted:Skype has been capable of calling regular voice line numbers (for a fee) since forever. I meant like....holding a tablet up to your face.
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I'm sure its speakerphone.
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Robot Hobo posted:Perhaps we have more than one pair of witnesses in play.
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I think a specific complaint was constantly bringing on Hawley to be the #3 in situations that they could've used Jenny with some minor rewriting.
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Lycus posted:I think a specific complaint was constantly bringing on Hawley to be the #3 in situations that they could've used Jenny with some minor rewriting. That too.
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Lycus posted:I think a specific complaint was constantly bringing on Hawley to be the #3 in situations that they could've used Jenny with some minor rewriting. I get the feeling that Hawley was fully clued into the supernatural from the get-go despite his previous claims. I suspect he was helping Team Witness both from attraction to Abbie and because he was actually working for a different archdemon to sabotage Moloch.
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The whole Henry reversal uggajghjdfhg I hate that they are making him have daddy issues. It's not like "suddenly grown-up child who is mad at his dad" hasnt been done well. Look at Angel! oh. wait. no. dont look at Angel.
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Anyone else think this when Irving lopped the War knight's arm?
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Metropolis posted:I also wonder, the way the sword's magic curse thingy is worded, that if it destroys a soul then it also destroys the wielder's. But if the wielder can be protected by already having their soul claimed, then perhaps the same applies in revere? i.e. if you use it to kill someone whose soul is already claimed, then it won't kill you, because the sword can't destroy a soul already spoken for. I got the impression it wasn't the curse that killed him, but that wound to his side the Armor of War struck before Irving did his thing.
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muscles like this? posted:I liked the part where Moloch revealed that being a Horseman isn't exactly a permanent thing. So who knows how many times Moloch has tried this? I am really glad that they stated this on screen. I want Abraham to piss off and we can go back to having a no face Headless stomping around Also surprised at no tease of: The Kindred, the other 2 horsemen Also wtf, did we see ANYTHING with Hawley after they left him there? It will be cool to see how that goes down Robot Hobo posted:Perhaps we have more than one pair of witnesses in play. That is kind of like a Buffy storyline but hell, it would work
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Valeyard posted:That is kind of like a Buffy storyline but hell, it would work If the Witnesses show up to counter the Horsemen, then Abraham becoming the Horseman of Death might mean that a Witness would be drawn there by fate to fight him. Ichabod was there and he did the job, even to the point of sacrificing his life to the fight. (until Katrina meddled) Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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johntfs posted:I get the feeling that Hawley was fully clued into the supernatural from the get-go despite his previous claims. I suspect he was helping Team Witness both from attraction to Abbie and because he was actually working for a different archdemon to sabotage Moloch. That might be more interesting, but personally I really never got the impression that Hawley was more complex than the affable rogue archetype.
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This episode was great! I had a lot of fun. It was pure, glorious Sleepy Hollow. Ichabod 's face when he got off the motorcycle was priceless. Only 2 nags. 1. Where did Ichabod happen to find a perfectly fitted scabbard for the sword? 2. Goddammit, Katrina, the runes were on the blade of the sword, specifically the ricasso! The hilt would be the handle! Also, am I the only one that saw Henry killing Moloch from a mile away? 10 Beers fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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10 Beers posted:Also, am I the only one that saw Henry killing Koloa from a mile away? No, but the way it was done was still epic. He went all biblical revisionist. Like father like son.
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This is your friendly reminder not to attempt to motivate underlings by taunting them with how replaceable they are.
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Tortolia posted:This is your friendly reminder not to attempt to motivate underlings by taunting them with how replaceable they are. Moloch is another honours graduate of the Megatron School of Villany.
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Ernie. posted:No, but the way it was done was still epic. He went all biblical revisionist. Like father like son. Yeah, I thought it would be a "gently caress you, I'll just take your place murder." Still could be, though.
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I hope they keep him a wild card, as the show would loose a lot if they got rid of John Noble.
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BlueBayou posted:The whole Henry reversal uggajghjdfhg IRL like half the population has unresolved issues with one (or more) of their parents/caregivers. [citation needed] It seems super common, or maybe everyone I know is just hosed up. Being locked in a box underground for years would seriously gently caress up anyone. It's amazing Henry is as functional as he is.
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BlueBayou posted:The whole Henry reversal uggajghjdfhg You mean a huge part of his character since it was revealed that he was Ichabod's son?
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I guess I just find it frustrating that both horsemen have issues of one kind or another Ok how about this. Henry can stay complicated, but ole Abe needs to lose all his angst and just go back to being a shotgun wielding no head having badass Like, take away any last scraps of humanity in exchange for him no longer being vulnerable to the sun. That'd be cool.
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BlueBayou posted:I guess I just find it frustrating that both horsemen have issues of one kind or another Imma go out on a limb here, but maybe anyone who thinks that ending the world and putting a literal demon in charge is a good idea has "issues".
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bobkatt013 posted:I hope they keep him a wild card, as the show would loose a lot if they got rid of John Noble. Regardless how exactly his betrayal plays out, I seriously doubt they would get rid of John Noble.
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Henry using the sword on Moloch was the most predictable ending. As soon as that scene started, it was pretty much telegraphed. But the worst? The worst was Irving doing that sword twirl before attempting to stab War, giving him enough time to deflect the thrust, leading to Irving's death. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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If anyone is near Wilmington NC.....https://www.facebook.com/events/359553707551101/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular Join us for the celebration of the life of Capt. Frank Irving our beloved servant of this earth. There will a live New Orleans Style Band directed by Leroy Harper Jr. Eulogy by The Rev. Brick Jackson Brick Jackson Full burial procession after the funeral followed by a celebration wake at KGB on the corner of Princess and Front Street. Come show your love for one of our own. Black funeral attire suggested. THE IS A FULL FILMED PRODUCTION. OPEN TO THE PUBLIC!! #mockservice
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I king of like Henry and his parental issues. There's something deeply funny about an angry, sulky teenage senior citizen.
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Josh Lyman posted:Henry using the sword on Moloch was the most predictable ending. As soon as that scene started, it was pretty much telegraphed. Both of those things owned a lot sorry.
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johntfs posted:I king of like Henry and his parental issues. There's something deeply funny about an angry, sulky teenage senior citizen. He needs some fatherly advice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU9YP1cl42s
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Great mid-season finale, but I am also super disappointed at no last minute showing up of Franklinstein's monster.
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The mid season finale was okay but had substantial pacing issues, it was plodding and very predictable. Overall I'm disappointed enough in season two that I'm considering deleting the timer.
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Give it at least another episode or two just to see how things shake out after the last episode.
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Really hoping War just decides that God and Moloch are both awful and just wants to kill everyone.
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They just gave a whiny immortal teenager with daddy issues a sword that can kill anything. This still has great potential.
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Imasalmon posted:They just gave a whiny immortal teenager with daddy issues a sword that can kill anything. This still has great potential. Sleepy Hollow has become an anime series, hasn't it?
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nine-gear crow posted:Sleepy Hollow has become an anime series, hasn't it?
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Sleepy Hollow has always pretty much been anime. Like just imagine most of what happen already if it was animated.
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i find myself oddly relieved and disappointed with the internet today. After running a search for "Sleepy Hollow TV characters as anime" I was only able to find this instead of the twisted treasure trove of large eyed, small mouthed Ichabods, Abbies and Katrinas that I expected.
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johntfs posted:i find myself oddly disappointed with the internet today.
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