Stopping at Infinity: Baldur's Gate 1&2, Icewind Dale, Planescape:Torment.

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Dyna Soar: Nov 30, 2006

either make him go into a house you never plan on visiting or just a room with a door you can close. remove from party and he'll never even initiate dialogue.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 11:31

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# ? May 21, 2024 12:55

ANIME MONSTROSITY: Jun 1, 2012; by XyloJW

petrify him
or petrify him, soften him, equip a two hander and kai him

# ? Dec 11, 2014 11:59

DeathChicken: Jul 9, 2012; Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

BG1 is set up with the idea in mind that since it's low level D&D, people are going to die along the way so you can just grab one of the dozen replacements. If Khalid dies, Jaheira sticks around anyway.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 14:08

primaltrash: Feb 11, 2008; (Thought-ful Croak)

Uh, Khalid rules, Jaheira's the one to get gibbed.

Actually, in EE they're both pretty great, 'cause you can give Khalid the Gauntlets of Ogre Power and Jaheira the Brawler's Hands and the 19 strength belt and boom, two amazing front liners.

Branwen will catch up pretty fast if you grind some Flesh Golems or Ankhegs for an hour with her and Charname, just leave everyone else at Friendly Arm.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 14:25

verybad: Apr 23, 2010; Now with 100% less DoTA crotchshots

bunnielab posted:

Cant you just kill them on sight?

EDIT: How do I get the new BGEE portraits into BG2EE and vice versa?

At least Neera & Hexxat stick out like a sore thumb because of obnoxious cut scenes introducing them. It's not a big deal, but it diminishes the experience for me and I'd rather not deal with them at all.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 14:44

Levitate: Sep 30, 2005; randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENI�RE IN ME

Metal Meltdown posted:

My big question is how's the Baldurs Gate saga on iPad. I know the enhanced editions are buggy, but is it anything game breaking or will I be able to deal? Icewind Dale was pretty stable with only the ammo bag issues and two quests glitching.

I've asked this a couple of times and it seems that the original Baldur's Gate and expansion works well and without any real issue (but the EE extras are all IAP) but BG2 has some bugs in it that they haven't fixed including unkillable werewolves in the circus tent

# ? Dec 11, 2014 15:10

Zilkin: Jan 9, 2009

BG2EE 1.3 beta is now available on Steam. Here's how to activate it:

quote:

To activate the beta branch for the game, follow these steps:

1. In the Steam client, open the Library tab
2. Right-click on "Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition"
3. Select "Properties"
4. Select the "Beta" tab
5. Enter "IWantToTestBGII" in the field provided, then click Check Code
6. Select "updatetesting" from the drop-down
7. Close the Properties window, wait for the game to download the update, and enjoy the beta!

They also released the patch notes which actually highlight some very nice new features. Including improved pathfinding(!), more imported gear from BG1, the game remembers which spells you had memorized before getting level drained, mods can now import variables from BG1 saves, etc.

Took them a year to get even this beta out, but at least it seems to have some very nice improvements in addition to bug fixes.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 17:04

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

Now they need to announce that they are doing an IWD2EE.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 17:12

primaltrash: Feb 11, 2008; (Thought-ful Croak)

Can I point how hilarious it is that they released a 36 page PDF to cover all the bugfixes and feature changes in this patch?

# ? Dec 11, 2014 17:19

fuck off Batman: Oct 14, 2013; Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!

Zilkin posted:

BG2EE 1.3 beta is now available on Steam. Here's how to activate it:

They also released the patch notes which actually highlight some very nice new features. Including improved pathfinding(!), more imported gear from BG1, the game remembers which spells you had memorized before getting level drained, mods can now import variables from BG1 saves, etc.

Took them a year to get even this beta out, but at least it seems to have some very nice improvements in addition to bug fixes.

Whoa!

# ? Dec 11, 2014 17:58

good jovi: Dec 11, 2000; 'm pro-dickgirl, and I VOTE!

Zilkin posted:

the game remembers which spells you had memorized before getting level drained

hot drat. I need this so bad.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 18:07

JustJeff88: Jan 15, 2008; I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE

THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

of SA-Mart forever

armoredgorilla posted:

Uh, Khalid rules, Jaheira's the one to get gibbed.

Actually, in EE they're both pretty great, 'cause you can give Khalid the Gauntlets of Ogre Power and Jaheira the Brawler's Hands and the 19 strength belt and boom, two amazing front liners.

Branwen will catch up pretty fast if you grind some Flesh Golems or Ankhegs for an hour with her and Charname, just leave everyone else at Friendly Arm.

Not a big Khalid fan, me, though I do like Jaheira when she gets some levels under her belt. Not having a kick-rear end wisdom score hurts her spellcasting potential, though. She becomes godly if you stick with her in BG2, and Khalid isn't around then if you're like me and don't fancy him much.

Sadly, in the Enhanced Edition they took out the Flesh Golem grind spot. It didn't make sense to have it, I agree, but I liked it there as a place to earn experience. Just about every RPG should have a way to grind a bit to catch up, and D&D games where just one or two levels can make a huge difference is certainly no exception. Having characters who can start underleveled because you met them or didn't pick them up late and can really set you back. I think that, when met, NPC's should all have exactly as much exp as the main character and have it adjusted to that value if they leave and rejoin the party so that they always keep pace, but I've never found a patch for that.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 18:07

verybad: Apr 23, 2010; Now with 100% less DoTA crotchshots

Does anyone know how pickpocketing from NPCs (not stores) works? My 100% pickpocketing bard is consistently failing to steal from Brennan Ristling (Mencar Pebblecrushers's thief buddy), but I had no problems cleaning out the rest of his crew. Even with a potion of master thievery consumed, he is still failing a lot. Now, checking Brennan's CRE file, he's got 70% pickpocketing skill, so maybe that's applied as a penalty to my roll? Or maybe not, who knows.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 19:00

Levitate: Sep 30, 2005; randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENI�RE IN ME

I just want them to put the ipad versions on sale for christmas dammit :argh:

# ? Dec 11, 2014 19:02

ANIME MONSTROSITY: Jun 1, 2012; by XyloJW

armoredgorilla posted:

Can I point how hilarious it is that they released a 36 page PDF to cover all the bugfixes and feature changes in this patch?

It is insanely funny

# ? Dec 11, 2014 20:31

moot the hopple: Apr 26, 2008; dyslexic Bowie clone

verybad posted:

Does anyone know how pickpocketing from NPCs (not stores) works? My 100% pickpocketing bard is consistently failing to steal from Brennan Ristling (Mencar Pebblecrushers's thief buddy), but I had no problems cleaning out the rest of his crew. Even with a potion of master thievery consumed, he is still failing a lot. Now, checking Brennan's CRE file, he's got 70% pickpocketing skill, so maybe that's applied as a penalty to my roll? Or maybe not, who knows.

You can quaff an additional master thievery potion, the effects stack. Don't exceed 255, though, or your skill resets to 0.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 20:42

ANIME MONSTROSITY: Jun 1, 2012; by XyloJW

verybad posted:

Does anyone know how pickpocketing from NPCs (not stores) works? My 100% pickpocketing bard is consistently failing to steal from Brennan Ristling (Mencar Pebblecrushers's thief buddy), but I had no problems cleaning out the rest of his crew. Even with a potion of master thievery consumed, he is still failing a lot. Now, checking Brennan's CRE file, he's got 70% pickpocketing skill, so maybe that's applied as a penalty to my roll? Or maybe not, who knows.

pick pockets:

code:


          r = rand(1,100)
          if (r == 100) pp_fail()
          diff = actor->mod_pp_skill - target->mod_pp_skill
          if (r >= diff) pp_fail()
          if (target->mod_pp_skill == 255) pp_fail()

steal in store:

code:


          if ((actor->mod_pp_skill < store_steal_rate)
           or (store_steal_rate == 100))
              diff = 0
          else
              diff = actor->mod_pp_skill - store_steal_rate
          r = rand(1,100)
          if (r > diff) steal_fail()

# ? Dec 11, 2014 21:27

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

Yeah pick pockets is the only skill worth pushing above 100% really.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:40

verybad: Apr 23, 2010; Now with 100% less DoTA crotchshots

So, if I understood that correctly...

1) pick pockets is a d100 roll, and you have to roll lower than your pickpocketing skill - enemy pickpocketing, 100 always fails? Does Luck factor into it?

2) stealing from stores is a d100 roll, and you have to roll lower than your pickpocketing skill - store difficulty, no chance of critical failure?

fong posted:

Yeah pick pockets is the only skill worth pushing above 100% really.

Yeah I knew that, but what I didn't know is that there can be penalties for stealing from NPCs, not just stores.

(Stealth is worth pushing over 100% too, though.)

# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:44

ANIME MONSTROSITY: Jun 1, 2012; by XyloJW

1) Yes, and no, that's the full code
2) Yup. You fail automatically if you don't have high enough PP skill. The difference is, the steal rate is something completely different than target PP, it wont 'be higher than 100 and you will never be able to steal from the shops that have a 100% steal rate because that's also an autofailure even if you have over 100% PP

# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:12

Excelzior: Jun 24, 2013

ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:

1) Yes, and no, that's the full code
2) Yup. You fail automatically if you don't have high enough PP skill. The difference is, the steal rate is something completely different than target PP, it wont 'be higher than 100 and you will never be able to steal from the shops that have a 100% steal rate because that's also an autofailure even if you have over 100% PP

Am I right to assume shops that have 100% steal rate don't even have a steal tab (like Ribald Barterman)? I can't remember failing to clear out any vendor with a 240% pp thief.

# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:41

hemale in pain: Jun 5, 2010

Finished Baldur's Gate 1 finally for the first time! Played it a few times before but always got bored. I gotta admit I skipped most of the side quests.

I'm annoyed to hear how awful BG2 enhanced edition is with all the bugs. I want the nice fonts and the quick loot thing.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 00:58

moot the hopple: Apr 26, 2008; dyslexic Bowie clone

Excelzior posted:

Am I right to assume shops that have 100% steal rate don't even have a steal tab (like Ribald Barterman)? I can't remember failing to clear out any vendor with a 240% pp thief.

The hardest vendor to steal from is the one in the Copper Coronet IIRC, you'd probably need a high pickpocket around that level to jack his poo poo (again, easy to achieve with multiple potion of master thievery/power).

# ? Dec 12, 2014 01:16

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

hemale in pain posted:

Finished Baldur's Gate 1 finally for the first time! Played it a few times before but always got bored. I gotta admit I skipped most of the side quests.

I'm annoyed to hear how awful BG2 enhanced edition is with all the bugs. I want the nice fonts and the quick loot thing.

It just got a patch.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 01:17

Karmalaa70: Jun 15, 2006

Think they just started beta testing the patch for BG2EE. Probably be another month at least before it's released.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 01:24

FairGame: Jul 24, 2001; Der Kommander

I just downloaded the update to BG1 for iOS.

It removed neera, dorn, and the portrait pack, which are Dlc I have already purchased.

What gives?

# ? Dec 12, 2014 03:45

Flip Yr Wig: Feb 21, 2007; Oh please do go on; Fun Shoe

I keep banging on about abandoned companion locations, but I got another situation bugging me. I just picked up Dynaheir and I guess I'll leave Xan behind. But, y'know, he's in a gnoll fortress and I don't know if those buggers are going to respawn and just kill him. Will that happen? Because that seems like an obvious problem to fix.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 04:05

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

hemale in pain posted:

Finished Baldur's Gate 1 finally for the first time! Played it a few times before but always got bored. I gotta admit I skipped most of the side quests.

I'm annoyed to hear how awful BG2 enhanced edition is with all the bugs. I want the nice fonts and the quick loot thing.

I played through all of BGEE without any bugs I can remember :confused:

# ? Dec 12, 2014 04:23

Gooch181: Jan 1, 2008; The Gooch

Flip Yr Wig posted:

I keep banging on about abandoned companion locations, but I got another situation bugging me. I just picked up Dynaheir and I guess I'll leave Xan behind. But, y'know, he's in a gnoll fortress and I don't know if those buggers are going to respawn and just kill him. Will that happen? Because that seems like an obvious problem to fix.

I have been wondering this myself. I think I am about to drown a dwarf because the companions are too dumb to go hang out at the Inn or something. I've left about every recruitable character I have encountered right where I met them.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 05:19

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Flip Yr Wig posted:

I keep banging on about abandoned companion locations, but I got another situation bugging me. I just picked up Dynaheir and I guess I'll leave Xan behind. But, y'know, he's in a gnoll fortress and I don't know if those buggers are going to respawn and just kill him. Will that happen? Because that seems like an obvious problem to fix.

1) I don't think they'll kill Xan, and 2) If they do that's not the worst thing in the world.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 05:25

Big Mad Drongo: Nov 10, 2006

What's up with the Improved Shadow Lord in SCS?

So far the mod has been a blast, leveling the playing field by making casters prebuff/use spells somewhat intelligently and giving fighter-types enough potions to make them scary. Definitely harder, but the enemies are just matching what I'm doing. Then the Shadow Lord shows up with his Shadow Aura, which seems to be a save or be drained, and if you get drained below level 1 you get auto-chunked and turned into a shadow. All this on top of decent casting abilities.

Maybe I went to him too early (party was mostly level 9, had ~4 casts of Negative Plane Protection total) but the aura kicked my rear end over and over. I could maybe see it on a late-game boss, when you have more options to protect you from the aura and can drop his defenses more quickly, but putting that rear end in a top hat at the end of an otherwise easy, earlygame dungeon was killer.

I eventually brute forced it with luck on saves, but it just seemed really odd to give an early boss such a unique and nasty ability in a mod that's been otherwise about bringing enemies up to your level. Did I just approach him wrong?

# ? Dec 12, 2014 05:33

SodomyGoat101: Nov 20, 2012

Yeah, that fight the author of the mod admitted he ran out of actually decent ideas for and just phoned it in. He admits that it's terribly balanced, but it's okay because it's technically a beta version or whatever. It's loving retarded, and I never install it. His aura also gets worse the higher your difficulty is, I think.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 05:43

Metal Meltdown: Mar 27, 2010

I've started up BG1 on my iPad now. My question is how should I distribute Imoens thief skills? I figure I should pump pickpockets early to start swiping loot. I know about Algernons cloak, but are there any other pickpockets I should aim for?

# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:00

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

Go traps and open locks until they're at 100, then you can bump up whatever you feel like. I don't bother with stealth on Imoen because she's too weak and squishy to get in melee, so I usually do set traps next. Pick pocket is a pretty rare use so I just buy or stockpile potions of master thievery for the few times I want to do it.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:32

Factor_VIII: Feb 2, 2005; Les soldats se trouvent dans la v�rit�.

JustJeff88 posted:

Sadly, in the Enhanced Edition they took out the Flesh Golem grind spot. It didn't make sense to have it, I agree, but I liked it there as a place to earn experience.

Resting in the Ankheg cave lets you grind quite efficiently.

Metal Meltdown posted:

I've started up BG1 on my iPad now. My question is how should I distribute Imoens thief skills? I figure I should pump pickpockets early to start swiping loot. I know about Algernons cloak, but are there any other pickpockets I should aim for?

The game gives you a ton of treasure, so pickpocketing isn't really necessary. There are only a handful of NPCs with interesting items. In addition to Algernon there's the meditating female dwarf in Ulgoth's Beard who has a Ring of Free Action and one of the ghosts in the Firewine dungeon has a Longbow of Marksmanship. As fong said, you can find or buy potions of master thievery (two merchants in the starting area of the Baldur's Gate city have 10 each) so there's no need to spend points in it. Getting Find Traps and Open Locks to 100 is the priority with a thief.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:39

Mzbundifund: Nov 5, 2011; I'm afraid so.

The Ilmater priest outside of Firewine bridge has a scroll of magic immunity on him that you can only get by murder/pickpocketing.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:43

Fruits of the sea: Dec 1, 2010

Algernon's cloak was nerfed in the enhanced edition so it doesn't have unlimited uses per day. The charm is still really useful, but not to the point where it's worth designing a
character around it.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:47

Flip Yr Wig: Feb 21, 2007; Oh please do go on; Fun Shoe

So what's the point of Find Traps without Disable Traps, which doesn't seem to be in BG1? Let your tank walk into it?

# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:54

Factor_VIII: Feb 2, 2005; Les soldats se trouvent dans la v�rit�.

Fruits of the sea posted:

Algernon's cloak was nerfed in the enhanced edition so it doesn't have unlimited uses per day. The charm is still really useful, but not to the point where it's worth designing a
character around it.

I also find it useful for raising my party spokesman's charisma. Algernon's cloak combined with the Helm of Glory one gets off Jardak in the Northern section of Baldur's Gate lets Ajantis for example have a 20 Charisma (which suffices to give the maximum possible discounts in stores).

# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:55

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# ? May 21, 2024 12:55

cheesetriangles: Jan 5, 2011

Holy poo poo those patch notes. took like half an hour to get through. I really want to try out an Iron Man run of BG1 and 2 now.

# ? Dec 12, 2014 09:17

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