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Free couch spot plus a marathon hand job sounds like a good deal. Someone's making a documentary? I can't imagine that would be interesting. "We interviewed some lawyer about driving 18 hours and digging. Here's an action shot of a green fence"
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They interviewed Egbert, went over the Cleveland solve, interviewed Preiss' widow, have looked at some other digs (none fruitful, I assume) and have interviewed many of the people who have been involved in the hunt for years. Probably the Chicago finders. They walked around NYC with Egbert and Siskel and looked at some places, but i mean honestly you aren't going to solve this thing in an afternoon. My take from Siskel's recounting of the trip is that honestly Siskel and Egbert don't really know poo poo about these puzzles. That's really been my takeaway from re-constructing #4. I'm sure I'll watch it and I'm sure it's at least a little bit interesting to crazy people like myself.
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is the wiki down permanently or only temporarily? I'm getting a 502 gateway error.
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That documentary would be interesting if they did it like Room 237 and it was just about different people's crazy theories.
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CommonShore posted:is the wiki down permanently or only temporarily? I'm getting a 502 gateway error. Permanently.
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Well, my only thought was that just like the clipboard makes you look official, having a business card of a production company in hand, regardless of how small they actually are, gives you some cred when talking to DCR. Most people don't understand "treasure hunt", but everyone understands "making a movie". It might open doors (a lot more than dressing like one of the village people and going to dig).
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Permanently. Well poo poo. Any other source of info out there? I want to review what's been said about #9 before I start posting connections about the things I see in it.
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I tried to interview Siskel and Egbert, but they were at the movies.
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BigFactory posted:Well, my only thought was that just like the clipboard makes you look official, having a business card of a production company in hand, regardless of how small they actually are, gives you some cred when talking to DCR. Most people don't understand "treasure hunt", but everyone understands "making a movie". It might open doors (a lot more than dressing like one of the village people and going to dig). I'm in touch with James Renner. The thing has already filmed and is in editing. But if he can help at all, I'm not too proud to say no. At the end of the day I want it on my mantle in some way.
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Interviewer: We're here with world renowned treasure hunter, Xie. Xie, what have you learned in your adventures around the world, unearthing fabulous wealth beyond comprehension? Xie: Take zero risks and obey city digging ordinances.
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Plafop posted:Interviewer: We're here with world renowned treasure hunter, Xie. Xie, what have you learned in your adventures around the world, unearthing fabulous wealth beyond comprehension? "And get someone else to dig with the shovel since my gay wrist is too fragile."
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Did some homeless guy dig this up yet? It sounds like it's the only feasible option.
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I'm in official talks with the DCR to excavate. They like the story of the hunt and the official archaeologist is talking to the permit office. Sorry I didn't go to jail for you.
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Dec 12, 2014 14:22
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xie posted:I'm in official talks with the DCR to excavate. They like the story of the hunt and the official archaeologist is talking to the permit office. This way is much more exciting for me. Glad you waited!
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xie posted:I'm in official talks with the DCR to excavate. They like the story of the hunt and the official archaeologist is talking to the permit office. Eh, that's the most legitimate, and time consuming way to go about it. Good for you for getting the first steps to getting nothing done, done.
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xie posted:I'm in official talks with the DCR to excavate. They like the story of the hunt and the official archaeologist is talking to the permit office. This is my plan of attack for my Roanoke trip in the spring. Let us know how well this works because i want to use it to set a precedence.
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xie posted:I'm in official talks with the DCR to excavate. They like the story of the hunt and the official archaeologist is talking to the permit office.
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Ok, I'm just gonna post this because the wiki is down and I can't sort through a few hundred pages to see if anyone else has noticed this. Cask 9, possibly Montreal. The prominent pattern on the guy's clothing is checkered flags. His collar and shirt is an oddball shape, which has something of a resemblance to one end of the Formula 1 race track in Montreal:  If you look at the circuit on google maps, the resemblance is even greater, as the various layers of the coat/shirt/neck seem to coincide at least roughly with the river/track/lake at the circuit's south end. https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Circuit+Gilles+Villeneuve/@45.5014444,-73.5266022,2251m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xe0144f3fc885389b That race track was opened in 1978, and it was kind of a big deal because it's on an artificial island, so even if it's not a big deal now, it was a landmark ca. 1980. Am I doing it right? Sorry to interject in the whole Boston diggy bit, but the thread kept popping up.
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No, that's fine, that's what this thread for. It's the super-secret cloak and dagger bullshit that everybody hates.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:No, that's fine, that's what this thread for. It's the super-secret cloak and dagger bullshit that everybody hates. Care to elaborate on what you mean by that? I'm trying to figure out what it :might: mean, but I can't think of any possibilities (not that I disbelieve you, I'm just new to the thread).
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CommonShore posted:Care to elaborate on what you mean by that? I'm trying to figure out what it :might: mean, but I can't think of any possibilities (not that I disbelieve you, I'm just new to the thread). Poster Never Been Banned swept in and had totally solved one but couldn't let on which image or verse or anything because someone might go and dig it up first, I guess? Cue lots of pages of furtiveness and 'definitely going to go and dig it up' posts, which pissed everyone off.
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He means Never Been Banned refusing to give any hints about his "solution" Not even an image number or state. Just somewhere in the great northwest
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The "I have a secret theory I won't tell you" stuff is what brings the trolls on this thread.
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Ah. Well, how's my not-so-secret theory? (e. I should add that was what I guessed could be at stake but I never figured that anyone would be that big of an rear end in a top hat.)
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I'm personally not a huge fan of aerial stuff, I think everything is either representative (Mill-Walk-Kee, Liberty Bell) or a direct visual clue. But it could be. It's the "could bes" that we will probably never solve. Also, that would probably be more of a city/area clue & we know that ones in Montreal.
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Is it an aerial theory, considering that the shape of a racetrack is really well known, and the artificial island (linked to the World's Fair, btw) is kind of centrepiece too? (in that respect it hits two keywords in verse 6, "water" and the needlessly-capitalized "Fair")
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Here is a nifty post from Q4T on the topic. cw0909 posted:sorry for such a long post,to lazy to do it in parts
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Thanks! Cool. Well my theory isn't stupid, but it's not new either. I'll take a closer look.
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it's definitely not stupid, and I wasn't saying its unoriginal. Just that you hadn't seen it. I kind of like that theory, it all sorts of fits my Boston methodology.
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Even after skimming what you posted there I'm really certain that the key to the Montreal puzzle is the Worlds Fairgrounds, which the racetrack &c are all part of.
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The area was in pretty serious upheaval in '81 and has been renovated a lot since then. If true it might be no easier than Dorchester Sq.
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Xie are they going to make you present your solution to them and prove that it's actually reasonable before they let you dig? I mean I'm really just imagining them thinking that you're nuts but it's also funny to think you might have to have a good enough solution to convince the authorities before they'll let you dig
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I think that's reasonable. I explained that we've spent (cumulatively) years on the hunt, narrowed it down to the park, and spent time combing the park putting it together. I said this was a one time request, I wasn't going to pester them for years trying to dig up the park. In person the theory is very sound, it's a very simple and logical walk through a park. There aren't zillions of them but there's a steady stream of really solid and very hard to deny matches in the painting along the way, culminating in a spot that's both super duper clearly indicated by the final 3 lines in the poem but also by the painting itself. It's pretty solid when you walk the whole thing and have pictures of all of it. I think I could convince most people of the theory if they're open to it, it's really really solid.
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xie posted:So it's the two statues combined into one figure? I'm noHonestly at this point, being realistic, the least matched Painting is probably #12. We have the gargoyle and the obvious liberty face, but the image has no concrete coordinates. There's just a lot of NY stuff going on, and it's super super likely that there's one in NY as Preiss grew up there and had his offices there. My gut instinct is that the dots in the "window" are going to be it, if only because it's the most frustrating thing that nobody can find a good match for. xie posted:I know it's not a real rule, and the book specifically says they can be almost anywhere but at this point they really all do seem to be in actual parks rather than private grounds. edit: LOL, copies of the book start at $110 on Amazon. Should have bought more when they were $4 each and gouged people once the movie comes out.
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That definitely wasn't a flower bed in Cleveland and they didn't have to dig up any plants. I think the rules are pretty fair. Also I always point out with #4 that it was a suggestion from JJP who lived in Cleveland, not a perfect insight into his methodology. There's almost no chance there is one that's in someone's backyard or on 'very private' property. I can see digging one on the grounds of a college, that sort of private, but not someone's house or anyplace that in 1981 Preiss would have gotten arrested for digging at.
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Never Been Banned posted:I have the 11th through the 13th off and am headed to my site. That cold snap is abated and it should be fine. Ideal, maybe, if conditions hold.  I wanted to believeDo Not Resuscitate posted:I'm going to stop raging out until December 11-13 when I give myself permission to freak out again if (LOL) no hole has been dug for whatever image we're not allowed to know about in a city that's top secret.
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quote:I am the Director for DCR’s Construction/Access Permits and I got your name from <redacted>. After speaking with DCR’s Legal Team, it was decided that it would be ok for you to go out onto the Esplanade and dig up the ceramic piece. Before proceeding, you will need to submit a Construction/Access application, attached. Along with your application, could you please submit a Google map/image of the exact area in which you plan to dig, the permit will be limited to this area. Also, could you provide multiple dates of availability, no weekends, so that I can coordinate this with our Archaeologist (<Redacted>) as she plans on accompanying you during the excavation. If you have any questions feel free to email or call me.  
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Do we have a timetable?
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I'm going to reply tonight. There is some fairly specific info they need on the permit form (as in I have to go there and take precise measurements) and they still may require a DigSafe. I don't think the ground is frozen, but I'm away all of next week (plus it's Christmas). So I'll keep you guys posted, but it may be a few weeks.
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