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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Has anybody theorized that the foot from the January promo may be.... Tommy? DUN DUN DUNNNNN It could happen, maybe in the form of a vision ("Oliver, don't forget about your pouch of punctured lung curing herbs. Remember who you are. This, is CNN"), and not be terrible. My money is still on HK guy-turned-LoA-guy or Barrowman. Both make sense in that HK (whose name I just can't hold on to because it seems unimportant) doesn't want him to die and could be trying to save his life/give him a new one, and plot idiocy notwithstanding, Barrowman would/should have known that Oliver would get his rear end broke in and could have guessed as to where he might find his body.
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Rhyno posted:Amell posted about him being present for filming the 60th episode. http://i.imgur.com/Hv3ePlJ.png
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Dec 12, 2014 19:32
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Marc Singer has been cast as General Matthew Shrieve, head of the Creature Commandos on the comics
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Dec 12, 2014 19:40
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Marc Singer is joining the show to play General Matthew Shrieve, leader of the Creature Commandos  e: f,b
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Dec 12, 2014 19:47
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zoux posted:Strong Female Protagonist is a very good comic on the web that tries to take a realistic look at the world of super heroes. Thank you for this recommendation. I'm working through it now and it's really good.
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Dec 12, 2014 19:59
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thrawn527 posted:Thank you for this recommendation. I'm working through it now and it's really good. It is. In terms of both "hey we love comics so let's enjoy comics and not feel bad about being a little silly" and "hey let's explore the ramifications of power and privilege through the lens of superheroes", It's probably the best superhero media I've ever seen.
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Dec 12, 2014 20:04
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Habibi posted:It could happen, maybe in the form of a vision ("Oliver, don't forget about your pouch of punctured lung curing herbs. Remember who you are. This, is CNN"), and not be terrible. My money is still on HK guy-turned-LoA-guy or Barrowman. Both make sense in that HK (whose name I just can't hold on to because it seems unimportant) His name is
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Dec 12, 2014 20:05
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Interesting Episode 60 is called the return. Presumably Ollie won't be in the show for the three episodes before it, what with being dead/injured and recovering/starting his second life. It is also the episode Slade is supposed to be in. Along with that picture. So many things could be returning, though I doubt they're bringing Tommy back.
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Dec 12, 2014 20:12
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Honestly, I've been playing with the idea in my head that some representative of the League is the one who ends up saving Oliver- not as a rogue operative sort of thing, but, directly. They made a point when Oliver realized that his friend from Hong Kong was alive that, once you join the League, your previous existence is dead- the whole spiel of, "That man is dead, I am Sarab now." And it seems reasonable that some degree of a time skip will happen by the time they come back. So.. Maybe Oliver gets healed up by the League, and then shows back up in Starling all assassin'd up? And then you get to see his friends having adjusted to him being gone- Arsenal taking the main stage, Laurel as Canary out on the streets, even if not particularly strong yet, ATOM fighting crime, etc. And suddenly, boom, Oliver back in bad guy mode, somewhat crazy/aggressive from the Lazarus Pit? I dunno, just, seems like it'd fit, and give the B-Team time to grow into their roles a little bit more.
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Dec 12, 2014 20:20
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Marc Singer has been cast as General Matthew Shrieve, head of the Creature Commandos on the comics They're casting the Beastmaster as the head of the Creature Commandos?
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Uh, I was joking about them bringing in Sportsmaster, this is actually weirder. I mean, I guess I assume they will "normalize" them a lot? Edit: Well, reading the article if it's just the general then there might not be anything weird about it at all! CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 12, 2014 |
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Dec 12, 2014 20:30
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Wait a second did they some how introduce Dark Seid into Arrow and Flash universe? The upcoming Crisis, the Omega Virus, The Flash Disappearance, could they be doing their version of Final Crisis?
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Dec 12, 2014 22:00
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Hollismason posted:Wait a second did they some how introduce Dark Seid into Arrow and Flash universe? The upcoming Crisis, the Omega Virus, The Flash Disappearance, could they be doing their version of Final Crisis? No.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:10
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MrFlibble posted:Interesting Episode 60 is called the return. Presumably Ollie won't be in the show for the three episodes before it, what with being dead/injured and recovering/starting his second life. It is also the episode Slade is supposed to be in. Along with that picture. So many things could be returning, though I doubt they're bringing Tommy back. Don't have a link handy but it has been stated in an interview that the Return does not refer to either Ollie or Slade.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:52
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If Ollie is going to be out of the picture for a while, I really hope the writers take the opportunity to turn Roy into, like, an actual person. I used to be pissed at Colton for leaving Teen Wolf but now I just kinda feel bad for him because he's basically been reduced to a prop. A magnificently sculpted prop with a jawline that could cut glass.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:54
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You Lazarus Pit people are crazy. They've already got comics precedent for this: Ollie will be resurrected as a soulless amnesiac by his grieving best bro, an ex-military Green Lantern. John Stewart Diggle will be revealed at last and we'll get to see the recruitment of the new Arrow sidekick Speedy, aka They look like the most cheerful street drug dealers. "You kids wanna buy some arrows?"
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Dec 12, 2014 22:55
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I was thinking very, very green hookers. "Um... looking to party, Miss?"
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Spergatory posted:If Ollie is going to be out of the picture for a while, I really hope the writers take the opportunity to turn Roy into, like, an actual person. I used to be pissed at Colton for leaving Teen Wolf but now I just kinda feel bad for him because he's basically been reduced to a prop. A magnificently sculpted prop with a jawline that could cut glass. I think it's funny how Felicity keeps busting on his height. "Well, these arrows couldn't have come from an average sized archer so I thought, hell, let's check out that sawed off motherfucker over there".
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zoux posted:I think it's funny how Felicity keeps busting on his height. "Well, these arrows couldn't have come from an average sized archer so I thought, hell, let's check out that sawed off motherfucker over there". I think her idea was more he could've thrown from the hip. As opposed to Thea just shooting from her normal height.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:05
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zoux posted:I think it's funny how Felicity keeps busting on his height. "Well, these arrows couldn't have come from an average sized archer so I thought, hell, let's check out that sawed off motherfucker over there". Dude is basically from the same mythical land that both AC/DC and Tom Cruise are from E: except he's 5'9 I guess? He looks so much shorter
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Dec 12, 2014 23:06
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Gaz-L posted:I think her idea was more he could've thrown from the hip. As opposed to Thea just shooting from her normal height. Stephen Amell is 6'1'', i.e. the perfect height for a man (of course he is).
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Hollismason posted:Wait a second did they some how introduce Dark Seid into Arrow and Flash universe? The upcoming Crisis, the Omega Virus, The Flash Disappearance, could they be doing their version of Final Crisis? That poo poo was around long before Final Crisis. The red skies and missing Flash are direct references to COIE.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:09
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zoux posted:Stephen Amell is
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What if it was all his imagination as he preps himself for the fight. He is in deep meditation to zone in and focus on what possibilities could happen if he has to fight Ra's. What would own weaknesses be. What would he do if Ra's took his weapon. He was all thinking these things through and still lost in his head because he wasn't sure yet how to counter those things. He then finally meets him for real and because of his intense meditation training of focusing on all possibilities lets him win the fight. 
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I hope Oliver stays dead and the show becomes about the Atom now.
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Dec 12, 2014 23:57
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Regy Rusty posted:I hope Oliver stays dead and the show becomes about the Atom now. All Merlyn all the time. Show name still fits that way.
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Azhais posted:All Merlyn all the time. Show name still fits that way. I'm okay with this
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JohnSherman posted:Counting down until Hcreight posts I am hcreight, ruiner of dreams. (Also I got nothing.)
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Alright I've refined my terrible fan theory: - Tommy dies, Merlyn is distraught, brings his corpse to the Lazarus pit. - Tommy comes back to life, but he's crazy. - Merlyn leaves him on the mountain until he gets his poo poo straightened out. Maybe he trains here or something. - One day Tommy hears a thud outside his cave, investigates. - Maseo Yamashiro watches from a distance as a single tear rolls down his cheek.
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I'd be very surprised if Ollie doesn't end up with an Arabic name out of this that's something like 'Green Archer', so he can declare triumphantly "I'm not *arabic*, I'm the Green Arrow!" and then shoot Ra's.
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We've met a few people that are roughly on Ollie's level as far as fighting goes, even with a bow, and like half were trained by the league and all of them are massively inferior to Ra's in a fight. Dude is going to have to do a lot more than get emotional and double down on violence to beat Ra's, his best effort didn't even make Ra's try.
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Boogaleeboo posted:We've met a few people that are roughly on Ollie's level as far as fighting goes, even with a bow, and like half were trained by the league and all of them are massively inferior to Ra's in a fight. Dude is going to have to do a lot more than get emotional and double down on violence to beat Ra's, his best effort didn't even make Ra's try. Boxing glove arrow.
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Boogaleeboo posted:We've met a few people that are roughly on Ollie's level as far as fighting goes, even with a bow, and like half were trained by the league and all of them are massively inferior to Ra's in a fight. Dude is going to have to do a lot more than get emotional and double down on violence to beat Ra's, his best effort didn't even make Ra's try. Outside of Batman Begins, how often does Ra's really "lose?" Bats seems to usually just get away or foil a plot, not take down the demon's head himself.
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Boogaleeboo posted:We've met a few people that are roughly on Ollie's level as far as fighting goes, even with a bow, and like half were trained by the league and all of them are massively inferior to Ra's in a fight. Dude is going to have to do a lot more than get emotional and double down on violence to beat Ra's, his best effort didn't even make Ra's try. Whole thing implies to me that if Ras is that skilled, Batman must be a monster himself. I kind of quietly imagine that Batman is actually out there, but has maintained his myth status longer than Ollie or anyone else who's fought crime.
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gently caress Batman. I hope he never appears. I hope Bruce Wayne was killed in a tragic falling piano accident in this universe.
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Scyantific posted:You know for all this talk about the Lazarus pit, it's real easy to forget that we already have a miracle drug in Oliver's super miracle cure-all herb from Lian Yu. Island herb cures poisons, not impalements. Don't forget, he was stabbed pretty severely in the side/kidney as well as through his chest. Also a big cut on his arm that's gonna bleed a lot (unless he freezes to death before he bleeds to death).
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Ville Valo posted:Outside of Batman Begins, how often does Ra's really "lose?" Bats seems to usually just get away or foil a plot, not take down the demon's head himself. He gets increasingly chumped as time goes on and every writer wants to show how cool Dick or Tim is, but generally speaking Batman is the only person that gives him a run for his money. Which is why he wants the Bat-D in his daughter and Batman to take his position. And Batman is a loving crazy person. Like Ollie actually has a life and occasionally tries to think about the bigger issues behind societal decay and what drives people to crime in the books, Batman just works out and kicks poo poo in the throat harder. It's perfectly fine for Ollie not to be able to walk all over the greatest killer that has ever lived, because that's all Ra's is or will ever be. He's a man even his family calls "The Demon", would anyone really want to give up all he did to be that good? It's perfectly fine for Ollie to go "Fuuuuuuuuuuck that" and just get like 9 people together to drop him. It's not a character flaw to want to be more than a best killer you can be.
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I will absolutely lose my poo poo if a Lazarus Pit Tommy saves Oliver and dumps him in a Lazarus Pit.
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Boogaleeboo posted:He gets increasingly chumped as time goes on and every writer wants to show how cool Dick or Tim is, but generally speaking Batman is the only person that gives him a run for his money. Which is why he wants the Bat-D in his daughter and Batman to take his position. And Batman is a loving crazy person. Like Ollie actually has a life and occasionally tries to think about the bigger issues behind societal decay and what drives people to crime in the books, Batman just works out and kicks poo poo in the throat harder. It's perfectly fine for Ollie not to be able to walk all over the greatest killer that has ever lived, because that's all Ra's is or will ever be. He's a man even his family calls "The Demon", would anyone really want to give up all he did to be that good? It's perfectly fine for Ollie to go "Fuuuuuuuuuuck that" and just get like 9 people together to drop him. It's not a character flaw to want to be more than a best killer you can be. I half expected that when Ollie got backed up against the cliff Diggle would show up in a helicopter with a pistol.
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