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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

If that's what Britain has to use for porn actors, God bless George Washington.

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ActusRhesus
Sep 18, 2007

"Perhaps the fact the defendant had to be dragged out of the courtroom while declaring 'Death to you all, a Jihad on the court' may have had something to do with the revocation of his bond. That or calling the judge a bald-headed cock-sucker. Either way."

maffew buildings posted:

I could tell you that, but it would be a lie, and the fact is given what we've seen from ISIS this is completely in their lane for behavior. The world is an awful place, accept in your heart there is only one solution and it involves bukkakeing the world with radiation and flames

Basically there are two kids of people. Those who recognize that there are people in the world who are just loving evil. And fucktards.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Honestly I am baffled that anyone would say "Tell me this is propaganda, this isn't confirmed by multiple sources is it, this is just a piece to further incite anger against ISIS?" Is your loving head so far up Hamid's sand pounding hole that the response is to try and rationalize away this might not be the truth, because God loving forbid the name of ISIS be dragged through the mud. The group that is on the regular murdering, raping and being reprehensible, the group that has raped God knows how many women and children, killed scores of men for having the audacity to be over the age of 12 and male in a town they just rolled in to, and somebody wants to say "This child raping thing, this is propaganda, right?" If your response to this poo poo is anything other than "gently caress these people, why are we not doing everything to exterminate them" then eat a loving bag of Thai lady boy AIDS dicks. Is child rape the loving bridge to far? loving really?

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Courthouse posted:

Please tell me this is some anti-ISIS propaganda spinning stories, I'm loving trying to not turn into one of the :sherman: posters. :smith:

They are a barbarian horde feeding on rape and pillage in an appropriately conducive context. I want them destroyed, and I am mostly a left-wing softie. Admittedly, I have a fairly bizarre perspective on the world, and I can't say I want them cleansed in radiant nuclear hellfire as though by the finger of god, but I do want them destroyed (via modernization and secularization).

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

maffew buildings posted:

Honestly I am baffled that anyone would say "Tell me this is propaganda, this isn't confirmed by multiple sources is it, this is just a piece to further incite anger against ISIS?" Is your loving head so far up Hamid's sand pounding hole that the response is to try and rationalize away this might not be the truth, because God loving forbid the name of ISIS be dragged through the mud. The group that is on the regular murdering, raping and being reprehensible, the group that has raped God knows how many women and children, killed scores of men for having the audacity to be over the age of 12 and male in a town they just rolled in to, and somebody wants to say "This child raping thing, this is propaganda, right?" If your response to this poo poo is anything other than "gently caress these people, why are we not doing everything to exterminate them" then eat a loving bag of Thai lady boy AIDS dicks. Is child rape the loving bridge to far? loving really?


I asked mostly because some of the alleged quotes veered from the outright evil to the cartoonishly so.

Also because there was that whole thing about the media reporting ISIS was making female mutilation mandatory in Mosul, which turned out to be not true.
http://gawker.com/experts-say-isiss-female-genital-mutilation-order-is-fa-1610815761


I just want us to be abandoning our humanity and giving people hummus rectal probings for the right reasons you guys.




But more to the point it's the difference between believing we are better off just cleansing the world in nuclear fire, and believing we as the human race can rise above our base animal state and do great and good things with just a minimum of necessary focused photon based pruning of select populations. Perhaps one day we could even be delivering fiery laser death via remote controlled killer robots, backed by solid legal reasoning with proper documentation, accountability and failsafes. :sun:

Courthouse fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Dec 12, 2014

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Courthouse posted:

Also because there was that whole thing about the media reporting ISIS was making female mutilation mandatory in Mosul, which turned out to be not true.
http://gawker.com/experts-say-isiss-female-genital-mutilation-order-is-fa-1610815761

There's no abandoning our humanity to stating "gently caress ISIS, we should exterminate these dudes". They are reprehensible, there's no way around it, and a report or two being false just means that out of the 192 atrocities alleged against them three were incorrect. It'd be great if we could rise above or whatever but as a species we've stacked the deck so goddamn much against ourselves that it's not unreasonable to think "We're hosed beyond repair"

I vote for nuke everything because the Earth has another 4 billion years before the sun goes out and it would only take two million or so for the damage of nukes to repair/make it like we hadn't been here. Give something else a chance to do better than we did, or whatever.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Courthouse posted:

Perhaps one day we could even be delivering fiery laser death via remote controlled killer robots, backed by solid legal reasoning with proper documentation, accountability and failsafes. :sun:

Uh did you ask these robots if they wanted to be built and used for this, you're not even giving them a choice. As a trans-droid this post is triggering me, smdh

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Courthouse posted:

But more to the point it's the difference between believing we are better off just cleansing the world in nuclear fire, and believing we as the human race can rise above our base animal state and do great and good things with just a minimum of necessary focused photon based pruning of select populations. Perhaps one day we could even be delivering fiery laser death via remote controlled killer robots, backed by solid legal reasoning with proper documentation, accountability and failsafes. :sun:

TOO MANY SYLLABLES!

:torgue:

(What, we don't have a plain mushroom cloud emote?)

justice4trayvawn
Oct 26, 2014
Do you get any bang slaves if you're a POG in ISIS? Asking for a friend

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

maffew buildings posted:

Uh did you ask these robots if they wanted to be built and used for this, you're not even giving them a choice. As a trans-droid this post is triggering me, smdh

Of course, what the gently caress do you think "proper documentation, accountability and failsafes" means? :colbert:





In non-terrible news; if we do choose cleansing nuclear fire any innocent creatures we take with us go to heaven. :unsmith:
http://time.com/3631242/pope-francis-dogs-heaven-catholic-church/

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!


I'll say.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I thought the Koran was interpreted by their religious leaders who issued the fatwas or whatever saying such and such was good and whatever else bad and they went off that. The majority of Muslims not recognizing ISIS teachings as being anywhere near legit. Certain leaders have more sway with certain groups or the movement as a whole. It's just barberism plastered over with a thin veneer of religion. Why would you be shocked at anything ISIS is doing? It's been done throughout Africa, Bosnia, the Middle East for quite awhile with much less justification.

The Japanese are still trying to church up anything they did during WWII including comfort women.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Many folks just want to believe mankind isn't inherently awful and will rise above this violence stuff. Such as baby boomers and other persons who won't be holding the bag for this mess in forty years

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

maffew buildings posted:

I could tell you that, but it would be a lie, and the fact is given what we've seen from ISIS this is completely in their lane for behavior. The world is an awful place, accept in your heart there is only one solution and it involves bukkakeing the world with radiation and flames

nukkake

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
You only get to cum to it once, but it'll be the climax to end the world

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Someone shot some people in a Portland high school, four injured, but Portland is full of weirdos so gently caress 'em

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

maffew buildings posted:

Someone shot some people in a Portland high school, four injured, but Portland is full of weirdos so gently caress 'em

I visited Portland once. I remarked to a friend later, "I liked it, it seemed like a pretty cool city, except there were homeless junkies weirdos everywhere"
He informed me that I had simply encountered everyday Portland residents.

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q
So if your rebuttal is appropriately sourced, don't link Gawker articles. Just link directly to the source, since anything on Gawker is probably an extension of some white-guilt riddled shithead Jezebel poster.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

krispykremessuck posted:

So if your rebuttal is appropriately sourced, don't link Gawker articles. Just link directly to the source, since anything on Gawker is probably an extension of some white-guilt riddled shithead Jezebel poster.

I never got a real liberal vibe from Gawker, I thought it was just more aggregator crap.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Dead Reckoning posted:

I'm loving speechless that I live in a universe where Mitch McConnell is capable of steering advanced parliamentary maneuvers.

Didn't he get the last "restart the government bill" through with a conveniently placed rider granting Kentucky $3B for new dams?

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


Ok. Imma spell this out for anyone who might not have accepted a very simple truth. Isis is pure evil. Not cartoon poo poo, not bond style, we aren't even in Stephen king meets Michael chriton land.

Remember the nazis from your history class? The nazis would be telling these ragheads they need to dial it down a notch or 10. There is but one way to handle Isis.

Kill every last member.

Door to door. Mud hut to mud hut. Jdam the place. Turn it into a loving lake. Extend the Mediterranean to Kuwait if need be. They need to die. My entire family is so Viking that we should have crossed the Atlantic in a flat bottom wood boat. And even our ancestors aren't as bad as these fucks. They need to die. Yea there is some anti Isis propaganda out there. But let's come to reality. They are on the level of kiddy rape and slave trade. The Huns, Vikings. Mongols.. All of them would have a problem with Isis. And they were some really lovely people.

RonMexicosPitbull
Feb 28, 2012

by Ralp
Remember they post videos of the hosed up poo poo they do themselves for everyone to see so y6ou dont have to take the media's word. The Nazis had the sense to try and hide their poo poo. They need to go.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





maffew buildings posted:

Someone shot some people in a Portland high school, four injured, but Portland is full of weirdos so gently caress 'em

oregon or maine

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013

Genocide Tendency posted:

Ok. Imma spell this out for anyone who might not have accepted a very simple truth. Isis is pure evil. Not cartoon poo poo, not bond style, we aren't even in Stephen king meets Michael chriton land.

Remember the nazis from your history class? The nazis would be telling these ragheads they need to dial it down a notch or 10. There is but one way to handle Isis.

Kill every last member.

Door to door. Mud hut to mud hut. Jdam the place. Turn it into a loving lake. Extend the Mediterranean to Kuwait if need be. They need to die. My entire family is so Viking that we should have crossed the Atlantic in a flat bottom wood boat. And even our ancestors aren't as bad as these fucks. They need to die. Yea there is some anti Isis propaganda out there. But let's come to reality. They are on the level of kiddy rape and slave trade. The Huns, Vikings. Mongols.. All of them would have a problem with Isis. And they were some really lovely people.

Nope, it's worse than that.

The actual horrible truth is that ISIS is not all that special, and marauding bands of rapists and murderers is neither new nor uncommon today or through history. The major difference between them and all the murderous barbarians or civilization founding child molesters through history is that their brutality and contempt for human life and dignity is more starkly contrasted once put next to modern civilized morals.

Because :lol: if you think this kind of poo poo isn't exactly what was going on when Rome/Mongolia/Vikings/Crusaders/the Inca rode into town. I know we sanitize the gently caress out of history to the point that you'd think Caesar and friends were swell guys, but it's a big loving mistake thinking ISIS is some loving pinnacle of exceptional evil incomparable to every other time humans have been terrible to one another. History is replete with this poo poo. Because true evil is banal and mundane, not exceptional, and that's what makes it so loving scary.

(same goes for Hitler and his ilk, main difference there wasn't that nazi's were worse than any other conquering people through history genociding the local undesireables. It was that the nazis were more determined and efficient at it)






As to the anti-ISIS propaganda, the issue there is really not that we should be worrying about them having their image tarnished. It is the agendas pushed by said propaganda. And we would do well to notice them rather than just swallowing everything bad said about them, on the logic that they are evil so no harm in a few lies adding more.

Because we have a history of evil Arabs being falsely accused, and as it turns out that is actually a big loving deal that ends up with the west getting stuck head first in the shitter.

Hint;

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D
Kill em all and let God sort em

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Cole posted:

Kill em all

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Two Finger posted:

oregon or maine

Oregon.



My family lived near Portland Maine for about 6 or 7 years. It's a nice New England town with a few office buildings, Nicer than Bangor, not as pretty as Augusta, but if it weren't for the weather it's where I'd want to live

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Booblord Zagats posted:

Oregon.



My family lived near Portland Maine for about 6 or 7 years. It's a nice New England town with a few office buildings, Nicer than Bangor, not as pretty as Augusta, but if it weren't for the weather it's where I'd want to live

It's a shame they tore down so many of their older brick buildings in the 70s and sacrificed 1/3 of the peninsula's waterfront to 295, though.

RonMexicosPitbull
Feb 28, 2012

by Ralp
I know a lot about Maine from various Stephen King books. Theres a lot of vampires and satan stuff there

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

also Poland Springs

and at least one moose

Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004


WOKE UP IN THE DESERT AGAIN

Genocide Tendency posted:

Ok. Imma spell this out for anyone who might not have accepted a very simple truth. Isis is pure evil. Not cartoon poo poo, not bond style, we aren't even in Stephen king meets Michael chriton land.

Remember the nazis from your history class? The nazis would be telling these ragheads they need to dial it down a notch or 10. There is but one way to handle Isis.

Kill every last member.

Door to door. Mud hut to mud hut. Jdam the place. Turn it into a loving lake. Extend the Mediterranean to Kuwait if need be. They need to die. My entire family is so Viking that we should have crossed the Atlantic in a flat bottom wood boat. And even our ancestors aren't as bad as these fucks. They need to die. Yea there is some anti Isis propaganda out there. But let's come to reality. They are on the level of kiddy rape and slave trade. The Huns, Vikings. Mongols.. All of them would have a problem with Isis. And they were some really lovely people.

So?

This is how I know the people who were teenagers when 9/11 happen will be just as loving worthless as baby boomers.

INVADE MUDFARMERNAM!
INVADE MUDFARMERSTAN!
EVIL MUST BE STOPPED!
BY US!

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

unlike most veterans and SA members $10 is not a meaningful expenditure for me

I'm gonna have me a swag Bar-B-Q

Zeroisanumber posted:

I never got a real liberal vibe from Gawker, I thought it was just more aggregator crap.

Give it long enough and someone writing for the Gawker network is going to tell us ISIS isn't that bad.

But you're right, they're basically just an aggregator. There were a couple of Telegraph and BBC articles linked within the post that would have been a better source.

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.


Victor Vermis posted:

So?

This is how I know the people who were teenagers when 9/11 happen will be just as loving worthless as baby boomers.

INVADE MUDFARMERNAM!
INVADE MUDFARMERSTAN!
EVIL MUST BE STOPPED!
BY US!

The issue here is they are trying to drag civilization back to the Ionian stage. They offer absolutely no advancement to man kind. Thats what separates them from at least being misguided. They want to de-evolve us as a species. Keep in mind at least the Romans offered what was cutting edge technology at the time. Vikings were ransacking and pillaging their way to North America. The mongols reestablished the Silk Road. gently caress. At least the Nazis gave us Volkswagen and a secondary use for industrial ovens.

ISIS wants to undo basically every advancement made since we figured out how to not drag our knuckles in the loving sand. Thats why we need to kill them. And that is what makes them worse. At least the others had some ounce of contribution in them. ISIS does not.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

Instead of wasting however many billions of dollars invading another Islamic mudfuck sandpit we really should just stimulate some industry and spend that money on however many landmines that much cash can buy. I'm talking the good poo poo too, minimum metal with more than a few bonus anti-handling variants mixed in. They may not solve the problem entirely but it can't be easy to bang your slave or splash a schoolgirl with acid when your appendages are blasted off nubs.

The only downside I foresee is shoe sales in the region plummeting.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Mongols had 2 long centuries of peace and was hilariously wealthy until the bubonic plague hosed everything up. All it took was killing 10% of the total human population on planet. Provided you didn't try to start poo poo and paid your taxes living in the mongol empire was probably not horrible

Seems like a pretty good trade tbh

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Courthouse posted:

Nope, it's worse than that.

The actual horrible truth is that ISIS is not all that special, and marauding bands of rapists and murderers is neither new nor uncommon today or through history. The major difference between them and all the murderous barbarians or civilization founding child molesters through history is that their brutality and contempt for human life and dignity is more starkly contrasted once put next to modern civilized morals.

Because :lol: if you think this kind of poo poo isn't exactly what was going on when Rome/Mongolia/Vikings/Crusaders/the Inca rode into town. I know we sanitize the gently caress out of history to the point that you'd think Caesar and friends were swell guys, but it's a big loving mistake thinking ISIS is some loving pinnacle of exceptional evil incomparable to every other time humans have been terrible to one another. History is replete with this poo poo. Because true evil is banal and mundane, not exceptional, and that's what makes it so loving scary.

(same goes for Hitler and his ilk, main difference there wasn't that nazi's were worse than any other conquering people through history genociding the local undesireables. It was that the nazis were more determined and efficient at it)

As to the anti-ISIS propaganda, the issue there is really not that we should be worrying about them having their image tarnished. It is the agendas pushed by said propaganda. And we would do well to notice them rather than just swallowing everything bad said about them, on the logic that they are evil so no harm in a few lies adding more.

Because we have a history of evil Arabs being falsely accused, and as it turns out that is actually a big loving deal that ends up with the west getting stuck head first in the shitter.

Hint;


All true. What makes it different now is rapid transportation and direct access to real time or near real time information. Instead of hearing rumors and reports of the atrocities of the Moors crossing into Spain, we can watch ISIS behead people almost immediately. Instead of worrying that they'll be here after a couple of campaign seasons marching, they can be here in a matter of hours if they can scrounge up a few hundred bucks for a plane ticket. Realistic or not, it shapes peoples' opinions.

Edit:

Completely changing gears, but this is cool.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20141213_A_historic_collection_found_in_S__Phila__home.html#SfjdsVpgE5uKdRTw.01

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Pretty sure most of the African conflicts were/are much worse than ISIS. The subjugation and enslavement of women in countries such as Pakistan where the ISIS papers are the unwritten laws (because they are living in the stone age and can't write most likely) continues without much notice or rage from the civilized world.

ISIS is pretty contemptible but theres no need to go completely overboard on the literally worse than Nazis forever in the history of the world rhetoric.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

The only thing I found in my place when I bought it was some hangars, a half-bottle of hot sauce, and a quarter under a carpet that I ripped up. Some motherfuckers have all of the luck.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

lightpole posted:

Pretty sure most of the African conflicts were/are much worse than ISIS. The subjugation and enslavement of women in countries such as Pakistan where the ISIS papers are the unwritten laws (because they are living in the stone age and can't write most likely) continues without much notice or rage from the civilized world.

ISIS is pretty contemptible but theres no need to go completely overboard on the literally worse than Nazis forever in the history of the world rhetoric.

Yeah but its so hard to pretend it doesn't exist when they keep putting the poo poo all over youtube

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Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004


WOKE UP IN THE DESERT AGAIN

Jarmak posted:

Yeah but its so hard to pretend it doesn't exist when they keep putting the poo poo all over youtube

Acknowledging something exists isn't the same thing as calling for a massive military intervention boondoggle to address it, though.

I don't know how anyone hits adulthood sometime between 2001-2012 without learning that the U.S. isn't going to fix the Middle East, but these people exist and will, sometime in the near future, probably drag us back into the thankless task of paving the way for whatever lovely backwards splinter group steps up to fill the power vacuum left in our wake.

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