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Elephant Ambush posted:Just wanted to say that I am really sick of whiny nerds complaining about Treasure Cruise and wanting it to be banned. It's been like that for the last 2 or 3 FNMs. I have heard every terrible argument in favor of banning Cruise so many times and I'm so sick of hearing them. Uh, what format? It absolutely should be banned in modern considering it's much more powerful than Ponder, Preordain, or Ancestral Visions. It's fine in legacy for the most part. The fact that even burn splashes it for U: take 6-12 is pretty miserable though.
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suicidesteve posted:Uh, what format? It absolutely should be banned in modern considering it's much more powerful than Ponder, Preordain, or Ancestral Visions. It's fine in legacy for the most part. The fact that even burn splashes it for U: take 6-12 is pretty miserable though. One is, unless you're very much built around it's pretty difficult to cast it for U twice. It's a very strong card, but UR Delver is really only so common on Modo because it's an order of magnitude cheaper than other decks.
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Dec 13, 2014 20:02
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Anti-Citizen posted:One is, unless you're very much built around it's pretty difficult to cast it for U twice. My local LGS's Legacy event has been about 75% U/R Delver in the past month
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TheTofuShop posted:My local LGS's Legacy event has been about 75% U/R Delver in the past month It's also cheaper irl, it doesn't shake out in big events where it becomes one of many good decks, because it's the only thing that really plays well against green right now. Would you rather go into a format dependent on Nobel Hierach?
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Dec 13, 2014 20:25
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Anti-Citizen posted:Would you rather go into a format dependent on Nobel Hierach? I'm now having all of my Hierarchs altered with portraits of Alfred Nobel.
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Dec 13, 2014 20:31
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Abzan whip mirrors are so boring.
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Dec 13, 2014 20:33
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meanolmrcloud posted:Abzan whip mirrors are so boring. What do you mean, I love watching life totals swing back and forth until one guy can't lifelink anymore 30+ minutes later.
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Dec 13, 2014 20:39
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Mercury Crusader posted:What do you mean, I love watching life totals swing back and forth until one guy can't lifelink anymore 30+ minutes later. This but unironically.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:08
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Is this the first time Ross has been on stream this weekend?
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Dec 13, 2014 21:28
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qbert posted:Is this the first time Ross has been on stream this weekend? Which one? 
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mcmagic posted:I'm pretty sure that Ross lost to 2 Whip decks yesterday and it's probably not because he was outplayed. Ross is 7-1 in Standard this weekend, so I'm pretty sure he didn't. Also I just watched him beat Ross Merriam's Abzan Reanimator.
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Dec 13, 2014 22:05
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:Which one? To differentiate, just refer to one as The Boss.
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Dec 13, 2014 22:11
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Anti-Citizen posted:One is, unless you're very much built around it's pretty difficult to cast it for U twice. As much as modern delver has benefited from cruise, holy poo poo does it make sac lands tendrils so much better. You can screw up the math and not have threshold when you need it, but drat.
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Dec 13, 2014 22:12
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Triple Jeskai Ascendancy in legacy on stream right now. 
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Could anyone elaborate a rule for me? Last night at FNM, I was playing some Middle Aged guy with a neck beard and belly to match running full rabble red in standard, who has the most annoying belly laugh for every single card played. Even a mountain... He attempts to Stoke the Flames directly at my Sorin, I explain that it's a false move due to the card text, player or creature. He tries to replay the turn, now this may be my inexperience where people I've played have forced me to let the spell whiff, which I did to him, nullifying his entire turn effectively. The judge rule later: Stoke can be cast at a player, but on resolution can be re-directed at a planeswalker? This seems odd to me as that's like me swinging for X damage at a player, but when it resolves I'll resolve the damage on the planeswalker. Additionally, should a spell cast at an incorrect target whiff? The positive upside is the guy literally ragequit the event an went home, which I had to laugh about.
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Anti-Citizen posted:It's also cheaper irl, it doesn't shake out in big events where it becomes one of many good decks, because it's the only thing that really plays well against green right now. Would you rather go into a format dependent on Nobel Hierach? I also play in Modern, with Pod 
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SierraNovember posted:He attempts to Stoke the Flames directly at my Sorin, I explain that it's a false move due to the card text, player or creature. He tries to replay the turn, now this may be my inexperience where people I've played have forced me to let the spell whiff, which I did to him, nullifying his entire turn effectively. Uh, this is exactly how it works. You can use spells and abilities that deal damage directly to a player, and redirect that to a planeswalker. (It's done that way so they didn't have to errata literally every burn spell/ability in the game when they introduced planeswalkers). You should probably feed bad about trying to rules-lawyer someone out of a totally valid line of play instead of just playing the game.
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SierraNovember posted:Could anyone elaborate a rule for me? Whenever a spell or ability you control would do damage to an opponent, you may choose to redirect the damage to a planeswalker they control. This is to allow all the literal decade of burn spells printed before planeswalkers to function correctly. e: also if someone tries to cast a spell with an illegal target (e.g. hero's downfall on a creature with hexproof), you can't tell them that the spell fizzles because they did it wrong. It has to be taken back, because they weren't even allowed to target the creature in the first place. Casting the spell never happened, because it was illegal.
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SierraNovember posted:Could anyone elaborate a rule for me? One of the basic rules of planeswalkers is that noncombat damage can be redirected to them, so that pre-lorwyn burn spells don't get obsoleted. Look at the rulings of literally any planeswalker: Gatherer posted:7/1/2013 If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to an opponent, you may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker that opponent controls instead. For example, although you can’t target a planeswalker with Shock, you can target your opponent with Shock, and then as Shock resolves, choose to have Shock deal its 2 damage to one of your opponent’s planeswalkers. (You can’t split up that damage between different players and/or planeswalkers.) If you have Shock deal its damage to a planeswalker, two loyalty counters are removed from it. e:f,b but lol you sound fun to play with
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Lottery of Babylon posted:e:f,b but lol you sound fun to play with To be fair, maybe he saw Fated Conflagration which does specify planeswalker, and thought that's how it works now.
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Chill la Chill posted:I have a couple friends who drove several hours today to play at the Baltimore GP and will be driving back tomorrow. In the middle of finals week. Keep chasing that dream. The saddest loving dream. Neither of them have Q'd or made day 2 yet.
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Is going to a GP in the nearest city to have a good time and enjoy myself, despite not being a pro player or anything, unreasonable?
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Keiya posted:Is going to a GP in the nearest city to have a good time and enjoy myself, despite not being a pro player or anything, unreasonable? Not at all.
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qbert posted:Ross is 7-1 in Standard this weekend, so I'm pretty sure he didn't. Also I just watched him beat Ross Merriam's Abzan Reanimator. Saw that. Merriam drew terribly. I'm rooting for Ross though. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Keiya posted:Is going to a GP in the nearest city to have a good time and enjoy myself, despite not being a pro player or anything, unreasonable? It is a magic con. It is quite fun.
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Can anyone point me to a good source for decent proxies? The group I play with is very casual and I would love to get a set of dual lands and other legacy staples to throw in my EDH decks.
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Just saw this tweet on my feed.@mtgRikipedia posted:#GPBaltimore there have been 6 Game Losses for morphs... or more accurately playing a non-morph face down. Players will always find a way. The stupidity of Magic players will never cease to amaze me.
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MMD3 posted:Can anyone point me to a good source for decent proxies? The group I play with is very casual and I would love to get a set of dual lands and other legacy staples to throw in my EDH decks. I use magiccards.info, it has images for pretty much every version and language of most cards. It also has a handy proxy print function that lets you prepare and print a bunch of different cards at once.
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Keiya posted:Is going to a GP in the nearest city to have a good time and enjoy myself, despite not being a pro player or anything, unreasonable? I haven't even entered the main event at half the grands prix I've been to. I mostly go for trading, gawking at $30k misprint test foil Gaea's Cradles, and being in a huge room full of people with whom I have at least one cool thing in common. Also for eating too much and playing Ascension until 4 AM in the hotel room but that depends on who you go with.
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Spiderdrake posted:At least they're not my friends, who drive to GPs, don't have time to cube because they do GPTs/PTQs every weekend, but don't playtest and prefer to play at the weakest FNM with terrible prize support because they feel good about winning nearly every weak. Week. Did I say weak? IT loving IS. There were some creeps who stared at the cheerleaders when I went out to get food. When I came back I told one not to trust them: they'll just ruin your chances at being a wizard.
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MMD3 posted:Can anyone point me to a good source for decent proxies? The group I play with is very casual and I would love to get a set of dual lands and other legacy staples to throw in my EDH decks. If you're on Windows, let me recommend Magic Set Editor. It's nice for creating customized proxies.
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It's also a totally valid shortcut to point the burn spell at the planeswalker to save time, he didn't do anything wrong.
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wildfire1 posted:It's also a totally valid shortcut to point the burn spell at the planeswalker to save time, he didn't do anything wrong. I think he mentioned that he didn't know the rule that you could redirect damage to a planeswalker, but still, the guy sounds kind of turdy for gloating about tilting his opponent, especially since he didn't know the rule in the first place.
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SierraNovember posted:Could anyone elaborate a rule for me? Not only is pointing burn spells at a planeswalker considered a valid shortcut anyway, but someone picking an illegal target does not make a spell 'whiff', that's absurd. If a spell is cast at an impossible target or without a target, the game is rewound to before the spell is cast.
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drat. Started 7-0, but hit two bad matchups in a row at GP Baltimore. Here's to the 64-player single elim PTQ!
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Myriad Truths posted:Not only is pointing burn spells at a planeswalker considered a valid shortcut anyway, but someone picking an illegal target does not make a spell 'whiff', that's absurd. If a spell is cast at an impossible target or without a target, the game is rewound to before the spell is cast. I've wondered about this too. I just started back into magic and the last few times I went to FNM I had some misplays trying to target Narset or a sagu mauler. Each time the other guy just points to hexproof, and I untap lands and put the spell back into my hand. Is that normal?
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Erdos posted:I've wondered about this too. I just started back into magic and the last few times I went to FNM I had some misplays trying to target Narset or a sagu mauler. Each time the other guy just points to hexproof, and I untap lands and put the spell back into my hand. Is that normal? Absolutely, yeah, it didn't suddenly gain hex proof or anything.
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Erdos posted:I've wondered about this too. I just started back into magic and the last few times I went to FNM I had some misplays trying to target Narset or a sagu mauler. Each time the other guy just points to hexproof, and I untap lands and put the spell back into my hand. Is that normal? Anything else would be illegal, in fact.
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Would you technically have to keep your lands tapped (since tapping lands and doing nothing with their mana is legal)? I always let my opponents take back stuff like that but I'm curious as to what the official rules say. e: Having the spell rewound makes sense though, otherwise you could cast counterspells at permanents for prowess triggers or something.
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Mr. Peepers posted:I use magiccards.info, it has images for pretty much every version and language of most cards. It also has a handy proxy print function that lets you prepare and print a bunch of different cards at once. that'll be awesome for last minute stuff, kind of hoping to buy some more professional looking proxies though... I don't mind spending $2-5/card for cards that sell for $100-300 like dual lands.
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