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BiggerBoat posted:I forget what I was watching that reminded me of it but I hate "dying last breath dramatic statements/clues to the crime" where the guy or girl manages to get that last vital piece of information out right before they pass away. LA Confidential?
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BiggerBoat posted:I forget what I was watching that reminded me of it but I hate "dying last breath dramatic statements/clues to the crime" where the guy or girl manages to get that last vital piece of information out right before they pass away. What's even worse is when someone almost gives the solution to the crime or identity of the killer or whathaveyou like this frustrating scene in Naked Gun 2½
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See also: The character looks like they're about to die but a single tear lands on their forehead/cheek and they spring back to life.
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Dec 14, 2014 23:33
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BiggerBoat posted:I forget what I was watching that reminded me of it but I hate "dying last breath dramatic statements/clues to the crime" where the guy or girl manages to get that last vital piece of information out right before they pass away. 
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Dec 15, 2014 00:50
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I've been watching The Sopranos lately and it reminded me of the translation discussion. Quite often they leave whole conversations in Italian untranslated which is fine as it adds to the atmosphere. For example I just watched the episode where Furio beats the poo poo out of the brothel owner and his Filipino wife and he repeatedly speaks to them in untranslated Italian. It adds to the scene because he's presumably shouting insults and threats and it sounds the same to the viewer as it does to the two characters who haven't a breeze what he's saying.
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That the power of love/anger makes a character overcome something that they were otherwise losing to. Has there ever been a movie where a character sees a loved one die, and instead of reinvigorating and taking their revenge, gets killed aswell?
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Dec 15, 2014 01:55
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Medieval Medic posted:That the power of love/anger makes a character overcome something that they were otherwise losing to. Does 300 count?
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Dec 15, 2014 01:59
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In Terminator 3 Arnold says he's 2 fusion cell batteries or something and if they get damaged the explode in a thermonuclear blast. One gets damaged and gets thrown out a car where it explodes, and the other one blows up when he gets crushed by the blast door. So why the gently caress didn't the fusion cells explode in the first movie when the Terminator gets crushed by a hydraulic press or in the second one when he gets dipped into molten steel? Also in the second movie why was there a metal foundry open and running in the middle of the night?
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Dec 15, 2014 02:56
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Your Gay Uncle posted:In Terminator 3 Arnold says he's 2 fusion cell batteries or something and if they get damaged the explode in a thermonuclear blast. One gets damaged and gets thrown out a car where it explodes, and the other one blows up when he gets crushed by the blast door. Graveyard shift dude.
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Dec 15, 2014 03:06
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Also in the second movie why was there a metal foundry open and running in the middle of the night?
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Your Gay Uncle posted:In Terminator 3 Arnold says he's 2 fusion cell batteries or something and if they get damaged the explode in a thermonuclear blast. One gets damaged and gets thrown out a car where it explodes, and the other one blows up when he gets crushed by the blast door.
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Yeah I think the one in T3 was a T-850 instead of a T-800?
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Medieval Medic posted:Has there ever been a movie where a character sees a loved one die, and instead of reinvigorating and taking their revenge, gets killed aswell? Shawn Of The Dead. One of the characters gets pulled through a window after being eaten and his GF goes nuts, goes outside, and is never seen again.
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EmmyOk posted:I was responding to the person who said Hafþór probably could explode a man's head. Haha my bad dude. I forgot the character's actual name and just subbed in the actor I guess.
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IUG posted:Shawn Of The Dead. One of the characters gets pulled through a window after being eaten and his GF goes nuts, goes outside, and is never seen again. I think there's some extra content where they say that she survived by climbing up a tree and eating his leg to survive, but I might have hallucinated that in a drunken stupor.
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Elderbean posted:I think there's some extra content where they say that she survived by climbing up a tree and eating his leg to survive, but I might have hallucinated that in a drunken stupor. Was she not alive in the epilogue?
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Dec 15, 2014 05:39
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MisterBibs posted:Here's something that We Hate Movies brought up that, now that I think about it, annoys me retroactively: The hardest suspension of disbelief for me in zombie movies/shows is how animals suddenly disappear. The more aggressive carrion animals would disintegrate the entire zombie population in no time. Coyotes, buzzards, crows, and even all the roaming dogs now without owners would have no problem taking down a bunch of slow-moving exposed meat frames. Once you get into the country bears would keep pretty much every forest zombie-free.
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Danger Mahoney posted:The hardest suspension of disbelief for me in zombie movies/shows is how animals suddenly disappear. The more aggressive carrion animals would disintegrate the entire zombie population in no time. Coyotes, buzzards, crows, and even all the roaming dogs now without owners would have no problem taking down a bunch of slow-moving exposed meat frames. Once you get into the country bears would keep pretty much every forest zombie-free. Or that no one would use bicycles. An inexpensive, fuel-free, easy to maintain (and obtain) transportation that lets you outpace zombies (even fast ones). Also most of them can go off road and transport at least 2 people. Nope, instead everyone drives around in cars or if their car breaks down, they just walk. Put like 2 bikes in the trunk or on the roof!
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Away all Goats posted:Or that no one would use bicycles. An inexpensive, fuel-free, easy to maintain (and obtain) transportation that lets you outpace zombies (even fast ones). Also most of them can go off road and transport at least 2 people. Nope, instead everyone drives around in cars or if their car breaks down, they just walk. Put like 2 bikes in the trunk or on the roof! Bicycles are bad for product placement in a show for plebs.
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Dec 15, 2014 05:49
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syscall girl posted:Bicycles are bad for product placement in a show for plebs. I think it's also partially because hollywood thinks bicycles are unsexy/uncool. I can't think of a single example of an action star using a bicycle, ever.
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syscall girl posted:Bicycles are bad for product placement in a show for plebs. Ha, that reminds me of the first couple seasons of Walking Dead with their embarrassing truck and SUV product placement. Good thing we found this brand new 2013 Hyundai Tuscon without a speck of dust on it. That was released *after* the setting of the show.
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Away all Goats posted:I think it's also partially because hollywood thinks bicycles are unsexy/uncool. I can't think of a single example of an action star using a bicycle, ever. Premium Rush.
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BiggerBoat posted:I forget what I was watching that reminded me of it but I hate "dying last breath dramatic statements/clues to the crime" where the guy or girl manages to get that last vital piece of information out right before they pass away. Hate Burn Notice all you want, but they handled this better than the show deserved in one of the later episodes. Protagonist is going to meet his handler for a mission debrief and to get more info on who was behind burning him in the first place and arrives to find the other agent shot and gasping out his last breath. Cue "Who did this?!" from the hero, while the dying agent only croaks out something about his wife. No last second accusations, no cryptic hints, nothing but a (plot wise) meaningless last emotion from a dying man.
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Away all Goats posted:I think it's also partially because hollywood thinks bicycles are unsexy/uncool. I can't think of a single example of an action star using a bicycle, ever. Bruce Willis and Sam Jackson steal some bikes from some kids in DIe Hard with a Vengance.
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Elderbean posted:I think there's some extra content where they say that she survived by climbing up a tree and eating his leg to survive, but I might have hallucinated that in a drunken stupor. Yeah, that's on the "Plot Holes" DVD extra. She still exchanges Christmas cards with Shaun and Liz. syscall girl posted:Premium Rush. True, and that was a dope movie. Oh, and Jeff Goldblum's character rides a bike in Independence Day, though he's supposed to be an eco-hippie type.
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Danger Mahoney posted:The hardest suspension of disbelief for me in zombie movies/shows is how animals suddenly disappear. The more aggressive carrion animals would disintegrate the entire zombie population in no time. Coyotes, buzzards, crows, and even all the roaming dogs now without owners would have no problem taking down a bunch of slow-moving exposed meat frames. Once you get into the country bears would keep pretty much every forest zombie-free. This zombie plot whole is discussed in the Zombie Survival Guide. It describes that the virus that animates humanity after death is fatal to pretty much everything else. World War Z goes a bit more in-depth about it; humans can train dogs to knock down zombies, but they have to do it without biting.
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Away all Goats posted:Or that no one would use bicycles. An inexpensive, fuel-free, easy to maintain (and obtain) transportation that lets you outpace zombies (even fast ones). Also most of them can go off road and transport at least 2 people. Nope, instead everyone drives around in cars or if their car breaks down, they just walk. Put like 2 bikes in the trunk or on the roof! It's not a zombie thing, but in Stephen King's The Stand various characters try to use vehicles but the roads are so jam-packed that they're basically useless. One guy decides to ride a motorbike so he can weave in and out of traffic but after some trauma leads to a near crash he can't stomach doing it any more so he just takes to walking. Later on another character he joins up with suddenly just stops and says,"....why the hell aren't we riding bicyles?" The sad thing is I think these are the only characters in the novel who even consider that. Everybody else either rides motorbikes/scooters or walks. Jerusalem has a new favorite as of 06:46 on Dec 16, 2014 |
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Away all Goats posted:I think it's also partially because hollywood thinks bicycles are unsexy/uncool. I can't think of a single example of an action star using a bicycle, ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddHfau_ONSw&t=3440s Watch about 30 seconds of this for a good example of a health-conscious chase scene. Then start at the beginning and watch the whole thing. One of my favorites.
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MisterBibs posted:This zombie plot whole is discussed in the Zombie Survival Guide. It describes that the virus that animates humanity after death is fatal to pretty much everything else. Like every attempt to close up plot holes in a zombie story, this just raises more questions. If all the animals are dead, dying or greatly reduced in numbers, doesn't that destroy every ecosystem on the planet and indirectly kill all the people? And what sort of virus can just infect every species?
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I think the implication is that the animals are still around, they just avoid the zombies, and since we're always around zombies, we're not going to see very many animals. Also, if it did destroy every ecosystem, it would still take a long time for humanity to die off due to that sort of thing. Humans wouldn't just drop dead instantly as soon as the last deer got chomped on. Furthermore, Babe Magnet has a new favorite as of 08:57 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Nutsngum posted:Bruce Willis and Sam Jackson steal some bikes from some kids in DIe Hard with a Vengance. And in Die Hard 2, Bruce Willis briefly chases a man while riding a bike - I think in the luggage area.
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World War Z had a prominent bicycle scene.
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Away all Goats posted:I think it's also partially because hollywood thinks bicycles are unsexy/uncool. I can't think of a single example of an action star using a bicycle, ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phtEQ2RBx2A First one I thought of.
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On the foreign language thing... When the first Iron Man came out I remember someone in CD mentioning that they went with a friend who speaks whatever language Tony's kidnappers use. The dialogue is unsubtitled but apparently it actually reveals that Stane is the villain right in the first few minutes. Jerusalem posted:It's not a zombie thing, but in Stephen King's The Stand various characters try to use vehicles but the roads are so jam-packed that they're basically useless. One guy decides to ride a motorbike so he can weave in and out of traffic but after some trauma leads to a near crash he can't stomach doing it any more so he just takes to walking. Later on another character he joins up with suddenly just stops and says,"....why the hell aren't we riding bicyles?" The obvious path through the traffic is something that always makes me laugh in disaster movies.
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Aphrodite posted:On the foreign language thing... Does this irritate you? I actually find it pretty awesome. The Thing did this too.
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Not really, I was just adding an example.
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Dr_Amazing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phtEQ2RBx2A What, Pee Wee Herman doesn't count?
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Aphrodite posted:On the foreign language thing... On the other hand, the few subtitles for the Arabic are not very accurate iirc.
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Van Dis posted:I wonder what language that happens in. It's not the Arabic, which is Egyptian Arabic and kinda funny for it because the closest Arabic speakers would be in Iran and Iraq, which have significantly different dialects than Egyptian. But the movie goes out of its way to say that the militia group member are from all over and speak many languages, so the distinction is accounted for. I'm not 100% sure but I read somewhere that it's Urdu.
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Away all Goats posted:Or that no one would use bicycles. An inexpensive, fuel-free, easy to maintain (and obtain) transportation that lets you outpace zombies (even fast ones). Also most of them can go off road and transport at least 2 people. Nope, instead everyone drives around in cars or if their car breaks down, they just walk. Put like 2 bikes in the trunk or on the roof! It spoils the "LOOK AT DECADENT MODERN SOCIETY CRUMBLE" wanking if perceived-as-goofy modern technology continues to function just fine or even becomes the new standard for survival.
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