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net work error posted:Monotron delay/duo as gifts to kids, yes or no? Thinking about it for some family. Hell, you might convert some of your family members into synth nerds that way.
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Flipperwaldt posted:I love it and I wish they would have cloned Marvin Gaye to sing some poo poo over it. soulful black man telling us how sexy we are, with tons of verb edit: I'm actually doing my own voiceover to my wife while this plays right now renderful fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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gently caress Monotrons, get the kids a couple of modules 
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:gently caress Monotrons, get the kids a couple of modules No, get them volcas, or that thing for the DS or MS-20 for iPad if they have one.
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I put my modular back together today. Bought a 2nd power distribution board and had to install it. I'm able to fit a surprising amount of useful poo poo inside the case, behind the modules. I can't wait till I get it to the point where it's filled and I don't have to worry about reorganizing anything  
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In the spirit of bonerjamz, I encourage everyone to try recording something and pitching it down http://tindeck.com/listen/jegi I'm laughing my rear end off at how well it worked e: vvv What are you talking about, those things sound wonderful! vvv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLB70G-tRY Your Computer fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Dec 15, 2014 03:52
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Startyde posted:I did it last year, the kids still love them. Parents not so much. Still kinder than me - I've got a set of otamatones coming for the niece and nephew.
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Dec 15, 2014 03:55
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It works the other way too. If you haven't heard these, they sort of make the drukQs sequencing make a little more sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__QS6bUV4Co
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Dec 15, 2014 05:35
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Fors Yard posted:It works the other way too. If you haven't heard these, they sort of make the drukQs sequencing make a little more sense. Honestly, I cannot tell you how much time I have spent listening to slowed down Aphex Twin. Before all the Soundcloud stuff got taken down, there was a killer slowed down CIRCLONT6A (Syrobonkus Mix) on there (should be on Youtube).
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:I put my modular back together today. Bought a 2nd power distribution board and had to install it. I'm able to fit a surprising amount of useful poo poo inside the case, behind the modules. I can't wait till I get it to the point where it's filled and I don't have to worry about reorganizing anything A filled case gives off a completely different sort of anxiety imo.
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Dec 15, 2014 06:19
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I made this late November, but finally getting around to posting it. Mostly happy how it turned out at 2:15 with the chorus arpeggio and the verse chords are together. That's the Peavey DSC-4 chorus pedal I posted about earlier on the SH-101. https://soundcloud.com/fors_yard/new-gloam gonna get workin on bonerjamz soon, which reminds me of the "italian porn" song and that it was sampled into this pretty great track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRNky9clbrc there used to be a version of the original, but now I can't find it. besides one with like Christmas music over it
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http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/12/14/upbeat-berlin-school-synth-jam/#more-60307 well this was a surprise to find this evening VVV Maybe something like the OP-1 or poo poo even the critter and guitari pocket piano / bolsa bass? OP-1 is pretty pricy but the C&G stuff is reasonably priced and also pretty fun to use to control other hardware synths. edit: oh straightforward interface uh i got nothin Mr. Sharps fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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I've recently started down the synth-collecting k-hole. Bought one on a whim, then another a week later, now I'm aggressively cruising ebay and craigslist on a daily basis. AND I BLAME THIS THREAD FOR ALL OF IT. One question though, I'm trying to figure out if there's anything out there on the internet like what I have in my brain. Here's my situation: I picked up a MicroBrute a few months back because though I've been making music for quite a while now, anything I did with synths was all plugins and leaned heavily on presets. I know the MB has a lot of shortcomings, but it's perfect for me: I like the sound, and it's a nicely immediate, knobby unit. I've learned a great deal about basic subtractive synthesis (more than I ever did ITB) just by spending a lot of time on the couch messing with the various parameters on it and seeing what I get. What I'm curious about is this: are there any other hard synths that fulfill this kind of place for other types of synthesis? i.e.: -Reasonably portable -Straightforward physical interface -Limited parameters (I tend to get lost when there's too much to tweak) -Relatively easy on the wallet I've done some looking, but there's so much out there that it's hard to parse what might fit this niche, but still be different enough from the Brute that I'll still learn something from using it. I know it's a pipe dream, but I'd love a portable FM synth that I can experiment on. I love FM8, but I sometimes get the thousand-yard stare trying to program patches in it. If it's relevant, the only other things I have are a Volca Keys, and an Electribe ER-1 & Mopho on the way. EDIT: I know my way around a soldering iron, so kits are definitely an option. It figures I found this thread just in time to find out that the Shruthi XT kit is no more. MockingQuantum fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Reasonably portable and straightforward interface are at odds but K-station maybe? They're cheap, do a factory reset, ignore the stuff under menus and it's a straightforward 3xOsc subtractive. Don't buy stuff just to buy stuff.
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This might be a bit of a silly line of thought, but when it comes to keep my synth-GAS in check, I always revert to the idea of treating my synth collection like it were a regular band of musicians: I have a drummer, a lead instrument, a rhythm instrument, bass-player, maybe some percussion and some effects to spice it a bit up. So when I'm hung up on the thought I must buy new gear for the 'the oscillator band' I boil it down to looking at these individual tasks and then determining what sections need reinforcement and which are okay the way they are. It's always nicer to by this cool new vintage poly synth, than it is to buy some quality cables, a mixer or a fx-rack, but the key to having actual productive synth setup in opposition to having just a collection of synths is finding a balance point between GAS and practical thinking. By looking at the list you've made of this you have already, I'd day you're pretty sorted for now and that is I were you I'd rather invest in a delay/reverb stompbox and just make music until it becomes clear to you what you think is lacking from you setup.
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I'll tell you what takes care of synth-GAS: Murphy's law of there being plentiful affordable machines when you cannot afford it nor make time for it, and there not being anything but near-RRP used items on eBay when you finally have the time and money and need  (Korg MicroSampler)
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Sjoewe posted:By looking at the list you've made of this you have already, I'd day you're pretty sorted for now and that is I were you I'd rather invest in a delay/reverb stompbox and just make music until it becomes clear to you what you think is lacking from you setup. Cool, thanks for the advice. I will say it's less GAS that I'm experiencing than just wanting to learn more about programming different types of synthesis, and for better or worse, I find that to be more comprehensible on hardware than in a plugin. I got the ER-1 for the similar reason that right now I stink at writing drums. The mopho I got because I love the sound and it was too cheap to pass up.
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In that case get a DX7 and spend the next 5 years figuring it out. 
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DX7 is amateur hour poo poo. If you want to dive deep into programming unknown synthesis, go get a Kawai K5000 Additive Synth and have fun with 256 individual harmonic levels.
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At least the K5k gives you macros, you don't have to be fine grained if you don't want to. Pad monster that.
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If anyone in California wants the new electribe, it looks like the guitar centers in the bay area / LA have them in stock. ship date listed for online orders is still late december  e: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Electribe-Music-Production-Station-110731122-i3933581.gc they claim it's available at the San Jose, Pasadena, La Mesa, West LA, and Orange locations Mr. Glass fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Dec 15, 2014 22:55
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Thanks for the heads up. I live by the Orange Guitar Center so I may go check it out.
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no problem, it sounds like I won't get the one i preordered until after i get back from my christmas vacation so i'd be curious to hear what people think of it
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I Want the sampler it looks like an mpc1000 when does that come out
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A MIRACLE posted:I Want the sampler it looks like an mpc1000 when does that come out not until march apparently e: although i heard a rumor that the hardware on the two is identical... if true it wouldn't surprise me if someone manages to hack the sample firmware to run on the synth version (or vice versa) Mr. Glass fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Dec 16, 2014 |
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Response to the synth one has been poor so I'm hoping the sampler one is nice. I had an ES-1 and it was real fun but goddamn the sample quality....
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So I scrapped the idea of trying to buy another small desktop synth, and I think instead I'm going to save up and start piecing together a modular. I've found a ton of info on muffwiggler and elsewhere, but there's two things I'd love some opinions on: 1. I get the impression that my best bet in terms of price-to-functionality is to build my own case, plan what I'd like to get, then wait and pick up modules used. Is this always a better option than getting a package deal "starter system"? I know it will drive me insane if I end up with nothing but a case and a VCF for a month or something, but I'll deal with it if it'll help me in the long run. 2. If I do end up piecing one together from used modules, what do I need for minimal functionality? Am I best off doing a Moog-esque VCO-Filter-VCA-ADSR (and probably LFO) plus some sort of pitch CV source? Is there anything else I absolutely need that may not be obvious if I have no experience with modulars? I've heard tell of multis and clocks being sort of essential once you get a sizeable system. I've spent the last two hours just trying to figure out what I should shoot for with a first oscillator. Modular boggles my mind and I think I'm going to love it.
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MockingQuantum posted:So I scrapped the idea of trying to buy another small desktop synth, and I think instead I'm going to save up and start piecing together a modular. I've found a ton of info on muffwiggler and elsewhere, but there's two things I'd love some opinions on: The first thing I'd ask myself is exactly what I want from a modular setup. The answer to that should help determine the type of modules you need. If you have some cv gear already then you can probably just grab a few modules to augment it at first instead of trying to piece together a full voice or something. As for cases, DIY certainly looks to be a lot cheaper (and I'm mid DIY case myself) but if you absolutely need to get started right now then the Tiptop audio Happy Ending Kit is probably the easiest way to get going.
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MockingQuantum posted:So I scrapped the idea of trying to buy another small desktop synth, and I think instead I'm going to save up and start piecing together a modular. Nope. Stop there. Just don't. Get a Mo'Phat or something else from the Proteus 2000 line or get an mr rack, or get a tg-77, hell, get a tx81z. These (and many more rackmount digital synths) -all- have the same amount of depth you can get out of a reasonably sized modular synth and will cost you around as much as a video game console, rather than a used car. Don't be stupid.
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A modular intervention. Nice. But yeah, don't be stupid. Do with what you have, buy what you need, not what you want.
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Or buy a Nord Modular and have the depth of programming a modular in a little desktop box.
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hail satanMockingQuantum posted:So I scrapped the idea of trying to buy another small desktop synth, and I think instead I'm going to save up and start piecing together a modular.  Sizone posted:Nope. Stop there. Just don't. Get a Mo'Phat or something else from the Proteus 2000 line or get an mr rack, or get a tg-77, hell, get a tx81z. These (and many more rackmount digital synths) -all- have the same amount of depth you can get out of a reasonably sized modular synth and will cost you around as much as a video game console, rather than a used car. Don't be stupid. It's true, until you get up to the space for a lot of utility modules and complex EGs you're paying a lot for a monosynth and/or fartmaker. Which is fine if that's your bag, but there's going to come a day when you look at the rack cost in modulargrid and wonder what went wrong. Other addicts have called this a "moment of clarity." Put together a well equipped 6U, or three or four, then close your browser, drive down to guitar center and buy a Pro2 or King Korg. You don't ever catch the dragon, friend.
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Post coffee double postin' Pair of these, bus board, small old (read:not fibreboard) cupboard/bookshelf from a thriftshop, wood screws, forget rails. That's your cheap case. Get a voice module, that'll get you making sounds fastest. The pitts one is fairly inexpensive because the LFO is a little leaky so of course there's a huge thread on it on muff's, doesn't matter. Build a MIDI2CV from hex or buy a Yarns used, always buy used. You could probably do a little better on a used prebuilt case if you're very patient, I know pitts is putting up scratch&dent/discontinued stuff on their web shop. Noisebug has used cases up pretty frequently but shipping might suck. Though, those switchers are good for 3A of modules which is quite a bit more than most of the other cheap solutions so keep that in mind. That's $450ish, plus your time soldering the bus board, MIDI module, retrofitting the shelving and trolling muff's BST for deals for a basic single osc synth.
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you could buy something semi modular and get the best of both worlds. mfb makes a bunch of affordable desktop semi modular boxes (they all end in werg), korg ms20 mini, doepfer dark energy, a tinysizer if you're brave. from playing with a modular i can say that the format can be just as inspiring for someone who doesn't know what they're doing as a new synth with lots of front panel controls can be. it's definitely a more expensive route, but for $1000 you could build your own small system that's a lot of fun
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Startyde posted:Put together a well equipped 6U, or three or four, then close your browser, drive down to guitar center and buy a Pro2 or King Korg. Probably don't get the KingKorg. The architecture is nothing to write home about, configuration is pretty shallow, and the FX are mediocre. The only thing it has going for it is its interface. It is really straightforward and intuitive to sculpt a sound, and there's enough knobs that it works OK for performance. But it's seriously shallow for no reason. They could have easily added dozens of parameters under the hood, but they kept it simple. The Pro2 though, get that.
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Just trying to think of what they actually stock at GC Though, If I were looking at another keyboard it'd probably be the MFB Dominion 1
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Startyde posted:Post coffee double postin' I was going to suggest a similar tactic with varying degrees of cost for a synth block solution - it lets you get a basic feel for a complete sound and then you can get non-modular gear that plays well with modular. You've got a microbrute which plays fairly well at least. Modular has its own reward, but it is a money pit. I use mine and enjoy it but whenever I want to sit down and try to make an actual song I put the modules away and break out Live. A year or so ago it was "I've got the cash for an Analog Keys or a modular" and then gradually One More Module Will Make It Sound Like I Want crept in, and the amount spent passed Prophet 12 territory. It's why I'm picking up the Analog 4 - parting out a comparable sequencer, reverb and delay alone in modular (not to mention power supply cost) would equal the cost of the A4, let alone the second pair of CV and four other voices, not to mention the ability to chain sequences together and (most importantly) keep it all but the sound patch. Note that as I'm saying this my disting came in to the local shop, so there's another 180 bucks gone. On one hand, I love it, on the other, part of me knows that money could have probably been spent on more practical musical gear, and I'm just hoping I'm basically at my module max for the time being unless I really start using it in my music.
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Sizone posted:Nope. Stop there. Startyde posted:You don't ever catch the dragon, friend. Alright, okay, I'm convinced. Closing MW tabs, getting out of Modular Grid, done. I apologize if it seems like I'm a complete noob to this, because I more or less am. The MicroBrute was my first hardware, and it inspired me in a way no plugin ever did, completely changed how I approached music, so obviously I'm trying to recreate that situation with other hardware. But I hear you loud and clear-- I'm setting myself up for disappointment and/or fiscal collapse if I start down that road. I may do the modular thing at some point, but I think I need to figure out what I'm doing first, not rely on a modular to teach me what I'm doing. That said, I definitely am going to check out some of the suggestions offered as an alternative (well, maybe not the KingKorg). I just got my MoPho in today, and I think that will keep me busy for a while, but the programming is anything but immediate. Also, I was reading through the thread from the beginning, and saw everyone's moment of clarity about how they had too much hardware that wasn't helping them, so I'm a little less surprised by the response I got. I appreciate everyone's cooler heads prevailing. I swear I'll figure this poo poo out before I go into debt.
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MockingQuantum posted:Alright, okay, I'm convinced. Closing MW tabs, getting out of Modular Grid, done. I apologize if it seems like I'm a complete noob to this, because I more or less am. The MicroBrute was my first hardware, and it inspired me in a way no plugin ever did, completely changed how I approached music, so obviously I'm trying to recreate that situation with other hardware. But I hear you loud and clear-- I'm setting myself up for disappointment and/or fiscal collapse if I start down that road. I may do the modular thing at some point, but I think I need to figure out what I'm doing first, not rely on a modular to teach me what I'm doing. Nah, it's not about noob factor, just a lot of us have been there/are there. The mopho is neat, but yeah (assuming you don't have the keyboard version) the programming isn't very immediate. I had one for a while and used it as a sound module until it was stolen. One thing to consider is something to tie all the parts together - you've got an ER-1, MoPho and Microbrute, maybe a groovebox that will output midi to tie them together and produce all-purpose sounds? I loved my old Korg EMX (again, stolen) and I also used that as the master brain for all the synths lacking in the front end (MoPho, Evolver) and some sort of mixer, if you're planning to control it all from hardware. You can set all the channels on the EMX to individual channels too. I'm sure there's one without an audio engine that's cheaper, but you can't go too wrong with that if you're going in hardware.
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But getting back to Eurorack though.... I think I've filled out my system completely for the first time! It's a small system, I plan to keep it that way. Wondering if anyone has a critique. I'm mostly focused on rhythm and sequence generation and evolving patterns with a few unique sound sources and filter/envelope gen. The bottom row is stuff I may or may not substitute into the rack if I reconfigure things, so ignore those things. 
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