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repeating posted:Windows Phone has literally 0 apps. If you totally ignore reality. Just my opinion, but I think white-knighting winpho apps is a losing proposition. Even the apps that windows manages to have are inferior to their ios and android counterparts in many immediately obvious ways. I'm sorry this contrary viewpoint upsets you, but I don't think it's an outlier. Go enjoy your phone.
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Factor Mystic posted:Let me guess.
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August before last I got the 1020. After a long stint of trying to make the platform work, I've gone back to android and am happy as a lark. Getting blocked out of snapchat I think was the breaking point. Now I have an app for my banking, I can loving communicate with people, have all the features the apps are supposed to have. Feels good, man Seriously, don't support this platform. We've tried and they don't listen, they show no interest in trying to make it viable.
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codo27 posted:Getting blocked out of snapchat I think was the breaking point.
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FRINGE posted:What the hell? I believe they've decided to shut down third party clients. Snapchat's whole gimmick is that viewed photos autodelete after X amount of time. If they don't control the client, then they can't make that guarantee. It makes some sense for a service like that to block third party clients.
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Thinking about either the 530 or 635 for my wife for her first smartphone. She's coming from literally a six year old flip phone that crashes when someone sends her a group text, so the needs are not exactly high. Seems like 635 doesn't offer a whole lot more for a lot more money?
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Snapchat would have been the breaking point for me if it wasn't 9 months until my next upgrade. I can't wait to abandon this platform.
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Serious question, is snapchat for your mistress and sexting?
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ElGroucho posted:Serious question, is snapchat for your mistress and sexting? People actually use it for sending random dumb, fully clothed photos to each other all the time!
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Dec 14, 2014 15:30
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I don't understand snap chat when you can just use a text message.
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monster on a stick posted:I believe they've decided to shut down third party clients. Snapchat's whole gimmick is that viewed photos autodelete after X amount of time. If they don't control the client, then they can't make that guarantee. It makes some sense for a service like that to block third party clients.
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Christobevii3 posted:I don't understand snap chat when you can just use a text message.
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FRINGE posted:That all makes sense (if you believe them to begin with), I just couldnt believe that anyone thought snapchat was important enough to be 'a breaking point'. I do believe them; 3rd party apps would destroy Snapchat's main "value proposition." I'm kind of wary in general of saying "but why do you need X app, you can do this instead" because that has not served Windows Phone well in the past few years. All that said, text messaging in general is the most reliable way of communicating with people due to way it is propagated, when we had our last earthquake you saw phone calls not getting through but SMS went through fine. monster on a stick fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Christobevii3 posted:I don't understand snap chat when you can just use a text message. Network effects, like all social applications. If your friends use snapchat then you would have to be retarded to give up communicating with your friends (or expecting them to adapt to you) to be "different" about your phone choices. That said, for the people whos posts are just whining about their contracts and how much they hate their phones, perhaps try to be a bit more interesting about it. Certainly cheerleading it boring as gently caress, but the opposite is not all that interesting either.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:... Candy Crush Saga was released two days ago. This pretty much sums up WP.
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repeating posted:Windows Phone has literally 0 apps. If you totally ignore reality. Nah, he's right. No need to get butthurt about it. WP is a nice platform as long as you don't ask very much of your smartphone. For example, I only ask my smartphone for a web browser, a couple social apps (but not facebook), Rooms, email, SMS, and telephony. For that, I get a nice OS aesthetic and relatively inexpensive last-gen devices. I used to ask for Messenger, a great music experience, and performance but slowly those have dropped off of the Windows Phone experience. Music I was annoyed about enough to make my own app for, but the rest... disappointing, but meh. I don't rely on my smartphone enough to get really mad about it, I just ask less of my phone. A great example of this is the new American Express app just released for WP. Amex is offering a $5 bill credit if you log in to their iOS or Android apps during the month of December, but not their new WP app. This is probably because their WP app is a contracted, useless p.o.s. webview to their mobile site. Luckily I do my banking on my PC, and don't ask my phone to be good for banking, so bad WP apps don't really affect me. I'm sure if I was coming from iOS I'd be real disappointed with WP since you can do a lot more with an iOS device than you can with WP. Same thing for this snapchat nonsense. If I knew anyone at all that used it, I might be disappointed about WP, but since I don't, it doesn't affect me at all. So I actually think for someone who doesn't already have a smartphone (and thus, is not already asking a lot of their phone), WP is a nice option. Of course, an iPhone is a better option, but still. xylo posted:Someone make a bunch of bingo cards for us. I think there are a good 10-15 of us that would play while watching. It's more fun to make pot shots on the internet 
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Factor Mystic posted:So I actually think for someone who doesn't already have a smartphone (and thus, is not already asking a lot of their phone), WP is a nice option. Of course, an iPhone is a better option, but still. True, and after years of WP I have my eye pretty tightly on the iPhone but that has also reminded me that it is a much, much more expensive option to buy into. Getting my 635 for only $100 straight up was pretty awesome. And I think your "expect less" customer would notice that difference with the right marketing. Obviously I have unfairly left Android totally out of this as I know nothing of their low-end devices.
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Eggnogium posted:True, and after years of WP I have my eye pretty tightly on the iPhone but that has also reminded me that it is a much, much more expensive option to buy into. Getting my 635 for only $100 straight up was pretty awesome. And I think your "expect less" customer would notice that difference with the right marketing. Moto G/E/X (2013) have all been down around $100-200 with great experience not to mention iphone 5's are currently down to $199. An incredible phone for $250 is a secondary market Nexus 5. http://swappa.com/listing/JYI960/view I'm hopeful for WP also but you shouldn't punish yourself when there are much better alternatives available.
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Most certainly I don't think anyone should buy anything except the sweet low-end 530/635 at the moment. I am pretty OK with my 920 still, but a mix of an aged high-end and a fair bit of uncertainty about what the future holds software-wise makes it a pretty dubious bet to buy in now. Not that I ever think WP has ever had a clear-cut suggest-to-your-friend platform moment. So if you are getting a new high-end phone today no matter what I think the exit from the thread is very understandable.
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Factor Mystic posted:Same thing for this snapchat nonsense. If I knew anyone at all that used it, I might be disappointed about WP, but since I don't, it doesn't affect me at all. This is an issue I've been having with WeChat. It's basically the chat app that EVERYONE in the country has (50-year-olds with a budget Android phone are using WeChat), and if you don't have it, you can't stay in touch with anyone at all. The Windows Phone version is months behind the iOS and Android versions, and therefore missing a lot of features. The current version of WeChat is 6.0 (arrived Sep 30 for iOS, Oct 24 for Android, not yet out on WinPhone), but I'll talk about the previous version (5.4) to discuss app lag. http://www.wechat.com/en/updates.html Version 5.4: iOS - Aug 14 Android - Sep 9 WinPhone - Dec 2 Being 4 months behind on updates sucks pretty hard. Whatever new feature that comes out on the iOS version ends up being played out by the time it comes to WinPhone 4 months later. Honestly, it feels a lot like my experience owning a Symbian phone in 2011, only Winphone has far fewer 1st-party apps, worse music/podcast/sync support, and worse battery life.
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LentThem posted:WeChat. It's basically the chat app that EVERYONE in the country has
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FRINGE posted:Ive never even heard of it. Then you're not in China. I have similar issues with LINE. Although it does get updated for bug fixes, it's no where near as in depth as the iOS and Android versions. At least they have a good reason not to care; Windows Phone adoption in Japan is hovering around the 0% range.
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What can I do with a 1520 that's starting to spazz out on touch recognition? I'll try to type an SMS and it starts hitting gibberish random keys and spaces, or the back button 3 times, or the Cortana button. Even when I take my hands away completely it keeps doing it, and I have to turn the screen off to get control again. Is it just borked and on its way to paperweight status, or would recalibrating the touch sensor do something? Can phone fixit places work on Lumias or even fix that? I might be making the Android jump way earlier than I thought...
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LifeSizePotato posted:What can I do with a 1520 that's starting to spazz out on touch recognition? I'll try to type an SMS and it starts hitting gibberish random keys and spaces, or the back button 3 times, or the Cortana button. Even when I take my hands away completely it keeps doing it, and I have to turn the screen off to get control again. Is it just borked and on its way to paperweight status, or would recalibrating the touch sensor do something? Can phone fixit places work on Lumias or even fix that? Is it this issue? http://www.windowscentral.com/possible-fix-lumia-1520-tap-and-scroll-problem-linked-flexing-screen
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Mine seems more severe than that, with random taps being registered all over the bottom half of the screen. I will try pressing the top and bottom like they suggest, though, to see if it does anything.
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LifeSizePotato posted:Mine seems more severe than that, with random taps being registered all over the bottom half of the screen. I will try pressing the top and bottom like they suggest, though, to see if it does anything. My 1520 did what you describe. The tips in the article worked for me, for a while. I ended up calling AT&T for a replacement.
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FRINGE posted:Ive never even heard of it. Yeah sorry that's just the English name for it; it's actually 微信
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wookieepelt posted:My 1520 did what you describe. The tips in the article worked for me, for a while. I ended up calling AT&T for a replacement. So do you press simultaneously on the Windows key and near the Nokia logo? Or does top and bottom mean out on the frame, like you're trying to compress it between the headphone jack and USB port?
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LifeSizePotato posted:So do you press simultaneously on the Windows key and near the Nokia logo? Or does top and bottom mean out on the frame, like you're trying to compress it between the headphone jack and USB port? I squeezed it from the headphone jack to the USB.
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Wow, kinda  that this is news and not just a normal occurrence though.Kindle app, I guess it's your turn? http://www.windowscentral.com/netflix-40-windows-phone-gets-cortana-integration-new-user-experience
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Maneki Neko posted:Wow, kinda I think the only day I don't get app updates on Android is a Sunday. I really want WP to get out there and be a viable 3rd platform, but it's been 4 years and even though there are decent sales in some countries, it's remained an afterthought for everyone except its fans. I can see MS abandoning ship with it, and just pushing its own apps on Android and iOS. I'm currently on a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact and I love the little guy. There's a simplicity you get with WP that's missing with Android in terms of navigation, settings etc, but the cost of this simplicity in terms of features is just too great for me. For those who are sticking with WP that could easily leave, what's keeping you there? I'm actually asking, not being a dick.
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I like the camera on the 1020 and am probably the rare user who edits the RAW files. I use the flash to test lighting setups so I do not waste any film. I also bought it used for $200 and money is tight at the moment. It's nice that no one takes you serious with a yellow phone in public when staging a photo.
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Got a 1020 as well, love the camera. I've had other phones before and I have access to an iPhone 5s right now, so it's not like I don't know what I'm missing app and feature wise, I just don't use those things so it's not an issue for me. I'm a call/email/SMS/social media on my pocket computer person that also really hates bright white backgrounds. I really like live tiles and I have a ton of family in Vietnam that use Windows phone, so the rooms feature gets used. The way that contacts can be grouped together from different sources is fantastic. Cortana is great (Google now is probably equivalent but I'm not impressed by Siri). And the UI is both simple and fun!  I think people underestimate that sometimes.Microsoft released an app called gestures beta that lets you do things like place your phone horizontally and it turns on speaker automatically. Let's see if it works with the 1020's camera bump.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:For those who are sticking with WP that could easily leave, what's keeping you there? I'm actually asking, not being a dick. lack of iPhone 6 availability 
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I just love the way the OS flows to be honest. Shortcomings aside, it's just a goddamned nice user experience that really seems to peel away some of the over complicatedness that can plague smartphones. I'm eagerly awaiting a trial of Lollipop though. I like what I see there.
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For me, it's pure stubbornness. Really, it's what I'm most familiar with since getting my Dell Venue Pro in 2010 and is nice to work with and look at. All the deficiencies that every review states just doesn't feel like that big of a deal breaker for me although I'm probably very different from the typical smartphone user. The only apps I really use is the Awful app, NextGen Reader, and HERE maps. Even so, I bought a Sony Z3 compact as a backup phone just in case my Lumia 920 meets a possibly watery demise which the Z3c can survive. I also got it as a means to get more familiar with a popular smartphone OS as a contingency plan if Microsoft does in fact pull the plug though I'm sure they're going to wait to see how Windows 10 fares. (I feel like I said the same thing for Windows 8) Between iOS and Android, I much prefer Android since I have much more control over customizing its appearance but I've yet to come up with a setup that can replace live tiles. Still, I'm perfectly fine with tethering it to my Lumia 920 whenever I need the odd app here or there or to hand it off to my nieces and nephews when they want to play smartphone games. The only thing I've been really upset about the progression with Windows Phone was removing Zune and the inadequacies of Xbox Music. I've already given up trying to put up with Xbox Music and got a Samsung Focus and the largest microSD card it could support to go back to Zune. Speaking of Zune, has anyone been having issues with accessing media with the desktop application? I get the error code C00D12F5 when I try to stream on my Windows 10 machine yet I'm able to get media fine through my Focus. Did a reinstall on both machines and I get the error code C00D12F9 when I try to stream and C00D11D0 (C00D2728) when I try to play protected local media on the Windows 10 machine despite being logged into my Zune account. Maybe it's just Windows 10 trying to convince me to give up Zune. Seriously, this is the second app that has broken on me since updating to this new build. Then again, I had a similar problem on my Windows 7 machine and the reinstall did the trick. I guess that may be why it's called a technical preview.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:For those who are sticking with WP that could easily leave, what's keeping you there? I'm actually asking, not being a dick. I really want it to succeed just because I like C#, and I love developing for it (apart from audio apps. Never again). And as others have said, having a true third OS competitor helps keep competition flowing between all of them. It's a good thing to have. If only Microsoft did not seem to find new and interesting ways to blow it at every turn. Speaking of blowing it, there is a new Rdio app out! I was bitching about it before, so I had to check it out to see what a years worth of work has lead to. At the very least, it does kinda match the other OS's in terms of UI design. But that's where things also fall apart for me.  Now, many Windows Phone users bitch about the hamburger button. I'm cool with it. When done right, it's a good way to store quick access to different pages. Sure, it's not "Metro", but I don't care. Having said that, when you push that button, you expect to see a menu slide out from the left with navigation options. Indeed, that's what happens on Android and iOS. On Windows Phone? Takes you to a whole new page, with the same navigation options as on those other apps. That screams lazy to me. I mean, it's a pain coming up with a separate canvas and doing all that gesture work to make a sliding menu like that work, but if you're going to break UI conventions, go all the way with it. Likewise, there are quite a few bugs. For example:  When I launched the app, Rdio knew I last listened to Cake on another device, so it preloaded it for startup on here. That's good, it's what the other apps do. However, when I picked to play a different album, it still had that Cake album in the now playing list, so while it was playing Social Distortion, it though it was Cake. Let's see how long it'll be before they fix it.  Really, it just looks like an app that was rushed to get out, and not that much love was given to it. It's progress, sure, but it just screams "eh, whatever".
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WattsvilleBlues posted:For those who are sticking with WP that could easily leave, what's keeping you there? I'm actually asking, not being a dick. I traded my 1520 for my wife's iPhone 6 and took her old 1020 for the camera. I like being able to text one handed again. One if the minor things I don't like about the iPhone is the lack of a camera and back buttons. I miss my 1520's performance and I have app envy when I look through the app store. But those aren't a huge issue when I think about it. I have an upgrade in the fall, so I'll see what new phones are out at that time, and I'll see if Windows 10 brings more developers.
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