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TheKingofSprings posted:Well drat, that's certainly a card. The Black Wrath is a modal spell also. Perhaps its a theme? Reposted for new page: 
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It's cuz the other choice is reforging your fate, duh.
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Dec 17, 2014 00:12
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Fun fact, none of the cards revealed so far from Fate Reforged are good at dealing with Stormbreath Dragon.
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Dec 17, 2014 00:14
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Angry Grimace posted:The Black Wrath is a modal spell also. Perhaps its a theme? Merry Christmas to me! White's my color, and I love to see it get some good conditional spells like this. It's always rough to strike a balance of removal and protection, now I don't have to choose (as much). EDIT: I also love that it checks Toughness. White Weenie is happy to trade with a 4/2, but always has issues getting around a 2/4.
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Dec 17, 2014 00:15
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Angry Grimace posted:The Black Wrath is a modal spell also. Perhaps its a theme? Wait what black wrath? Am I missing something? VV: Ah thanks, I'd forgotten about that, thought it was referring to a KTK card 
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Dec 17, 2014 00:16
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Serperoth posted:Wait what black wrath? Am I missing something? 
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E: beaten by seconds! U/W Heroic can choice to either kill your Siege Rhino or activate Heroic (perhaps as a sideboard card?). I'm sure you're all jumping with joy. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 17, 2014 |
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Dec 17, 2014 00:19
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Calling it now: A card with "spells you cast have Entwine."
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Dec 17, 2014 00:20
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Zoness posted:It's cuz the other choice is reforging your fate, duh. Well, I guess it is the easiest way for the game to show that kind of thing...
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Dec 17, 2014 00:23
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Dr. Stab posted:Calling it now: A card with "spells you cast have Entwine." Entwine needs a cost. Also unless they bring back Entwine I don't think they'll randomly toss it in on a single card. A card that said "whenever you choose a mode, you may choose an additional mode" would be cool though.
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Dec 17, 2014 00:33
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Dr. Stab posted:Calling it now: A card with "spells you cast have Entwine." possibly you're joking, but that would be a templating nightmare. I think the modal spells are more than one cycle, since we see two rarities, and it kind of plays into the theme of the set, history pivoting on which way things go, in the case of Crux literally deciding if the dragons or everyone else die. Also, looks like Bolas is active on Tarkir, so I guess he gets a card on Fate or Dragons. I bet the FAQ on Crux will specifically say that Ugin and Bolas are not effected by it. Stance seems playable in a bunch of decks, UW heroic will probably not mind dropping Ajani's presence for the option of killing some fatties dead.
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Dec 17, 2014 00:35
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Angry Grimace posted:Would you like a random FRF spoiler? Okay. And the accidentally/maybe-on-purposely leaked article from Dec 29 that it was gotten from: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...n&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Dec 17, 2014 00:38
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Angry Grimace posted:Would you like a random FRF spoiler? Okay. The artstyle on this and the black wrath are making me hope slightly for a new Guay art slipping in. Sure two pictures out of a set isnt much, but they're both a bit more painting-ish than usual.
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Dec 17, 2014 00:53
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Angry Grimace posted:I've never seen Flusterstorm cast entirely for value on another storm spell on MODO because MODO forces you to manually target each copy and it always gets hosed up. Well you see thats because the card just sucks unless you get super lucky and rip a timetwister or memoey jar or wheel of fortune, or mind twist workw too but not to a great extent. But basically at thatcpoint youre just playing a billion cantrips that chain together to dig for your value cards, and if you go through the jar and flutterstorm congrats they have aj empty board with random 7 cards or whatever amount they had before the jar which always forces a concede even if you have no win,con
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Dec 17, 2014 01:28
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Angry Grimace posted:Would you like a random FRF spoiler? Okay. Holy christ thats a good card
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Dec 17, 2014 01:30
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Just realised it makes Brimaz a bit less good. 
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Dec 17, 2014 01:33
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Angry Grimace posted:Would you like a random FRF spoiler? Okay. Doesn't beat Hornet Nest 
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Dec 17, 2014 01:38
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Dec 17, 2014 01:43
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Archenteron posted:The artstyle on this and the black wrath are making me hope slightly for a new Guay art slipping in. Sure two pictures out of a set isnt much, but they're both a bit more painting-ish than usual. The reason Guay hasn't been in recent Magic sets isn't because her style wouldn't fit, it's because she doesn't want to. There has been a bunch of traditionally painted artwork in the past few years, including multiple works by Willian Murai. The two-option modal spells are definitely going to be a thing in Fate Reforged because of their "choose your fate" flavor, so far we've seen "Kill all dragons or kill everything else" and "Save your friend or slay the dragon".
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Dec 17, 2014 01:46
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Modal spells as a theme is going to rule.
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Dec 17, 2014 01:53
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As much as I enjoy my Courser of Kruphix, the amount of information it gives away has really put a damper on how many of them I'm playing these days. That modal spell won't help, either.
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Dec 17, 2014 01:54
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Modal spells as a subtheme seems like a recipe for broken bullshit but it's cool as all hell so who cares.
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Rinkles posted:Modal spells as a theme is going to rule. Agreed. This is cool design. I want better less homogeneous art though. :'(
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Dec 17, 2014 02:02
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Zorak posted:Modal spells as a subtheme seems like a recipe for broken bullshit but it's cool as all hell so who cares. Its in the same block as Treasure Cruise, Jeskai Ascendancy and Dig Through Time. Seems like it'll fit right in. (Please reprint the Command Cycle, WOTC, its totally fine)
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Dec 17, 2014 02:03
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wiskibubbles posted:That's just straight up mean. I watched a kid try to play a lovely version of loam and not have a firm grasp on dredge mechanic A few weeks ago at legacy, we were 1 person short of firing, so my friend let one of the Modern regulars who had never played Legacy his other deck to play. That other deck? Solidarity. Angry Grimace posted:I've never seen Flusterstorm cast entirely for value on another storm spell on MODO because MODO forces you to manually target each copy and it always gets hosed up. In one of the last games of the VSL, Smennemnemen managed to Flusterstorm LSV's own Flusterstorm perfectly. Last time I tried it let me pick targets for 2 copies and decided the other 8 would go wherever.
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Dec 17, 2014 02:11
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Modal cards are awesome and if this set has a modal subtheme 1) it'll be totally loving sweet and 2) it's likely to produce at least a couple of powerhouse cards. I want to see some rare charms that aren't Commands someday. Or Commands, but with a different blue one, like when they reprinted the Leyline cycle.
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Dec 17, 2014 02:20
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Modal cards are awesome and if this set has a modal subtheme 1) it'll be totally loving sweet and 2) it's likely to produce at least a couple of powerhouse cards. Cryptic is the best one, but its not what I'd call broken in Standard, or anywhere really. The UUU color requirement is a total pain in the rear end.
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Dec 17, 2014 02:25
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As good as Cryptic is, I don't feel like it would bust open the format (that being said, I didn't play with it when it was legal). I also don't think its out of the question for a re-print, as Thoughtseize shows they are definitely okay putting the occasional bonkers card back in standard. Is it weird I don't see Profane Command getting a standard reprint? It has Fear on it, which, to my understanding, is a deprecated keyword. I don't think they'd want to bring it back just to complete a cycle. That being said, if Cryptic is printed I'm instantly dropping Abzan and picking up control because gently caress yes.
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Dec 17, 2014 02:37
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toadee posted:The correct answer is always Doomsday
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Dec 17, 2014 02:42
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This card is going to make U/W Heroic even harder to deal with. It's probably going to replace the 1W Indestructible and +1/+1 counter combat trick. It's going to be a really cool card for limited because it can play a role in both aggro and control decks.
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Dec 17, 2014 02:51
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Wizards please reprint Jitte in the modal set. Obviously for flavor reasons, it would have to be a functional reprint of Jitte.
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Dec 17, 2014 02:53
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Ojetor posted:Entwine needs a cost. Also unless they bring back Entwine I don't think they'll randomly toss it in on a single card. I'm not entirely sure how the templating would work, let alone what color you'd put that effect in (Blue probably), but unless it was overcosted or extremely color-intensive (costing WUBRG) it would be busted. Looking at the main modal spells currently in Standard, the Charms, we see:
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, but Charms (and modal stuff in general) are good when you only get 1 option per cast. Getting 2 would make them ridiculous.
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Dec 17, 2014 03:11
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On a (Legendary?) artifact creature maybe?
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Kabanaw posted:The reason Guay hasn't been in recent Magic sets isn't because her style wouldn't fit, it's because she doesn't want to. There has been a bunch of traditionally painted artwork in the past few years, including multiple works by Willian Murai. This is just my suspicion, but I suspect that the biggest factor is money. Wotc pays, I believe, a flat rate on art, and I'm pretty sure Guay makes much more with her current work and projects. If they had more money to throw around, I bet they good get her to do some cards.
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Angry Grimace posted:The Black Wrath is a modal spell also. Perhaps its a theme? Well thats a first pick.
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Dec 17, 2014 04:37
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Calling it now, modal matters. Something is going to get printed as "You may eliminate an option from any modal spells any opponent casts." Maybe as a planeswalker emblem? A really boring one?
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Dec 17, 2014 04:40
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Frgrbrgr posted:Calling it now, modal matters. Something is going to get printed as "You may eliminate an option from any modal spells any opponent casts." Maybe as a planeswalker emblem? A really boring one? I don't know if that would work in the rules. The closest existing card would be something like Magical Hacker and that's silver-bordered.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I don't know if that would work in the rules. The closest existing card would be something like Magical Hacker and that's silver-bordered. An emblem with "Whenever an opponent casts a spell, you make all decisions with regards that spell" might work? It goes way beyond modal spells though and does become a permanent Mindslaver-lite effect (they cast Bolt, you decide what it targets), ultimate-worthy but also not entirely unbeatable especially against a creature-heavy deck.
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Kabanaw posted:The reason Guay hasn't been in recent Magic sets isn't because her style wouldn't fit, it's because she doesn't want to. There has been a bunch of traditionally painted artwork in the past few years, including multiple works by Willian Murai. I make it: 9 artists who do their work wholly or almost wholly traditionally. 5 artists who switch between digital and traditional. 30 artists who do their work wholly or almost wholly digitally. Depending on just how you want to count the ones who can't make up their minds, it ends up between about 30 and 40 per cent traditional artists. Which is well over the going rate for professional illustration these days. Using the pool of any cards in Standard illustrated by the artists above, traditional art to digital art comes in the same 30-40% range, and traditional artists get a slightly higher ratio of cards on average, compared to the digital artists. Murai's illustration work seems actually to be digital, by the way, and there are quite a few other 'painterly' digital artists in Magic's stable for fans of that style too.
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Since I have too much time on my hands, I went through the artists for Standard. Or all the artists who did cards beginning with A, because there are limits. Right, I meant more by style than by the actual medium, if something has a painted look I don't really care if it was done on an easel with paint or on a tablet with photoshop. I didn't know that it was done digitally though, it's done well enough I couldn't easily tell.
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