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Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Sir Unimaginative posted:

And then when you need a job your hiring committee rejects you because "well if you're going to be this wasteful with your own poo poo" (and not even the PR value means anything because there's too many "watch me blow hundreds of hours of other people's labor and probably more than a couple of my own in a microwave or under a hammer for ~~~INTERNET CRED~~~" videos to get much shock or chatter value anymore).

Probably not worth it, even if you plan to be a small business owner for the rest of your life. The economy's been weirding out since the Internet started and shouldn't be counted on that hard.

this isn't a likely thing to happen ever and in conclusion: smash it up please. please.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 14:19

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# ? May 29, 2024 19:28

keithy george: Jan 8, 2008

Malt posted:

Ya, they aren't working for us.

Edit: Found the spot on a LP and the bombs are working there. Nothing happens in our game.

I had to restart the game at an early point because the door to the weather changing temple wouldn't open.

Then the patch landed yesterday and erased and broke the challenges system.

Also I was unable to buy the digital version on PSN. And the Lara figure I got had a big scratch on her forehead.

gently caress that game.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 14:34

Szurumbur: Feb 17, 2011

univbee posted:

Actually some launch window 360 games don't have 1080p on the packaging since the earliest 360's couldn't do that resolution.

But yeah, the whole reason why that's a standard for the packaging on both the PS3 and 360 is that they are talking about the signal being output and give zero fucks about the game's actual resolution, because HDTV's sold in the early-to-mid 2000's could be weird about supported resolutions. I had a Sony rear projection TV with component in that could do 480p and 1080i but could not do 720p; it would take a 720p signal but downsample it to 480p. A PS3 doesn't really have a proper scaler and the games themselves have to support the output (I think every game was required to have 480i, 480p and 720p as supported resolutions but anything else was flexible), and most games won't output an actual signal in 1080i or 1080p; like if I play GTA5 on my PS3, which is set to 1080p, the signal will actually change to 720p. This means that, if I was still using that rear projection TV, I could only actually play GTA5 on PS3 in 480p. However, the 360's upscaler is much more flexible and will actually upsample the 720p to 1080i, so the 360 version actually would look significantly better.

Basically if anyone had brought Sony and/or Microsoft to court about it in those days, those companies would have argued it was about the actual output signal and not the game's internal resolution and left it at that.

I remember trying to play the game with a projector at my brother's, but his could only output 720p, while the PS3's menu would output at a maximum resolution, which was 1080p - so it would be just blank screen with "output not supported" until the actual game started, scaled down to 720p and actually have some graphics. It took me a while to realize that could be changed with some changes to PS3's settings.

Also, maybe I just missed it, but I didn't see what the suit is actually fighting for - refunds, correction in the press, Sony's closing?

# ? Dec 18, 2014 14:36

Peel: Dec 3, 2007

The claim that an expensive product selling hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of copies (and associated hardware) was advertised on false pretenses is not on the face of it frivolous. Misrepresentation being common in the games industry is an argument for more, not less, action to correct this problem.

The 2kool4skool self-loathing attitude goons like to adopt about anything they like that's too goony is really silly and dumb.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 14:50

dscruffy1: Nov 22, 2007; Look out!; Nap Ghost

I got a PS4 from a Christmas party. Any consensus on what games aren't a waste of time/are coming out soon?

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:26

BreakAtmo: May 16, 2009

univbee posted:

Actually some launch window 360 games don't have 1080p on the packaging since the earliest 360's couldn't do that resolution.

Heh, yes, I remember MS yapping about how unimportant 1080p was. I just thought going into all that as well as everything else would be too quibbly/pedantic.

Then again, what would taking about video game tech specs on the internet even be without quibbling pedantry? :v:

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But yeah, the whole reason why that's a standard for the packaging on both the PS3 and 360 is that they are talking about the signal being output and give zero fucks about the game's actual resolution, because HDTV's sold in the early-to-mid 2000's could be weird about supported resolutions. I had a Sony rear projection TV with component in that could do 480p and 1080i but could not do 720p; it would take a 720p signal but downsample it to 480p. A PS3 doesn't really have a proper scaler and the games themselves have to support the output (I think every game was required to have 480i, 480p and 720p as supported resolutions but anything else was flexible), and most games won't output an actual signal in 1080i or 1080p; like if I play GTA5 on my PS3, which is set to 1080p, the signal will actually change to 720p. This means that, if I was still using that rear projection TV, I could only actually play GTA5 on PS3 in 480p. However, the 360's upscaler is much more flexible and will actually upsample the 720p to 1080i, so the 360 version actually would look significantly better.

Basically if anyone had brought Sony and/or Microsoft to court about it in those days, those companies would have argued it was about the actual output signal and not the game's internal resolution and left it at that.

Exactly, which is why I noted that it was 'technically true' since the boxes don't say 'native'. In much the same way, the claim that Shadow Fall's MP is native 1080p is also technically true (though, in my personal opinion, far less misleading), and if Sony actually lost this case it would be really ridiculous.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:28

PantsBandit: Oct 26, 2007; it is both a monkey and a boombox

dscruffy1 posted:

I got a PS4 from a Christmas party. Any consensus on what games aren't a waste of time/are coming out soon?

drat, that's some Christmas party. What genres do you like?

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:28

abagofcheetos: Oct 29, 2003; by FactsAreUseless

-Dethstryk- posted:

Shouldn't the collector in you also tell you that anything sold as a collectible is usually not going to be that valuable in the long run

Yeah but that is because most things sold as a collectible are then mass produced into the millions... there are only 10k of these things. Even stupid open box Net Yaroze systems go for $3-400 on eBay these days.

I'm getting one and I don't know what to do with it. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to open and play the gently caress out of it because who really cares in the long run about whatever profit I can wrangle... and the system does look pretty boss.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:34

FiftySeven: Jan 1, 2006; I WON THE BETTING POOL ON TESSAS THIRD STUPID VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS HALF-ASSED TITLE; Slippery Tilde

abagofcheetos posted:

.I'm getting one and I don't know what to do with it. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to open and play the gently caress out of it because who really cares in the long run about whatever profit I can wrangle... and the system does look pretty boss.

I just opened mine with the same line of thinking. If anyone calls me a moron for opening it, well they may be right but gently caress it, I have something I really want and thats what matters.

Looks like I need to buy some games and import Guilty Gear Xrd from America now...

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:39

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

I wanted to get one just to resell for stupid money. Also amiibos.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:42

Wonderful Bread: Nov 11, 2013

Hey guys, I've got an issue with my DS4. My right trigger (R2) is resistant whenever I press it. It started up after my roommate's cokehead friend slept on our couch one weekend, likely on top of my PS4 remote. This hasn't been an issue until just recently, since I've only been playing Rebirth. Does anyone know if this is something that can be fixed? It works fine as long as I press the bottom of the trigger up towards the PS4 but gradually starts sticking again if I let it go.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 15:45

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

dscruffy1 posted:

I got a PS4 from a Christmas party. Any consensus on what games aren't a waste of time/are coming out soon?

Three more months until the only thing that gets recommended is Bloodborne. :v:

Until then check out Dragon Age Inquisition, DriveClub, Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Far Cry 4, Tomb Raider, and The Last of Us.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:02

LorneReams: Jun 27, 2003; I'm bizarre

Don Lapre posted:

I wanted to get one just to resell for stupid money. Also amiibos.

I'm hoping they release more just to gently caress that up. I wanted one for stupid nostalgia reasons.

Although this is also triggering me back to the days I worked at EB during the PS2 launch. Wild times.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:03

PantsBandit: Oct 26, 2007; it is both a monkey and a boombox

I'd say Binding of Isaac is also a must-buy at this point.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:04

dscruffy1: Nov 22, 2007; Look out!; Nap Ghost

PantsBandit posted:

drat, that's some Christmas party. What genres do you like?

About the only things I'm not into are sports and racing. Ideally something I didn't already get on the PC or PS3, like Last of Us and Isaac and GTA5. I've heard good things about Second Son, for instance.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:13

VarXX: Oct 31, 2009

edit: gently caress someone made this joke and I didn't refresh

VarXX fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Dec 18, 2014

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:15

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

abagofcheetos posted:

Yeah but that is because most things sold as a collectible are then mass produced into the millions... there are only 10k of these things. Even stupid open box Net Yaroze systems go for $3-400 on eBay these days.

I'm getting one and I don't know what to do with it. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to open and play the gently caress out of it because who really cares in the long run about whatever profit I can wrangle... and the system does look pretty boss.

destroy it

VarXX posted:

I'm going to sue every company that put out a game on the last gen consoles because every game last gen said 720p/1080p on the box but was actually 720x480 upscaled 99% of the time

that was MS/sony not the separate companies, they required it show which resolutions they would upscale to. also false advertising is poo poo and i cannot believe anyone would try and contest that, but the kill zone example is kinda the worst possible one to take through to court imo.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:18

Spalec: Apr 16, 2010

BreakAtmo posted:

Heh, yes, I remember MS yapping about how unimportant 1080p was. I just thought going into all that as well as everything else would be too quibbly/pedantic.

Then again, what would taking about video game tech specs on the internet even be without quibbling pedantry?

Exactly, which is why I noted that it was 'technically true' since the boxes don't say 'native'. In much the same way, the claim that Shadow Fall's MP is native 1080p is also technically true (though, in my personal opinion, far less misleading), and if Sony actually lost this case it would be really ridiculous.

Wouldn't this open up the floodgates to all sorts of BS suits? Like, if a game claimed 60fps but dipped down to 55fps in intense bits, now there would be precedent to sue for 'false advertising'.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:21

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Post a youtube of spraypainting "XBOX RULES NUMBER 1" on it

Stux posted:

that was MS/sony not the separate companies, they required it show which resolutions they would upscale to.

More importantly, it shows which resolutions your TV could be set to and still see the game. Remember that this was 2005/6 where TVs didn't always come with universal scalers that could convert anything to anything.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:21

univbee: Jun 3, 2004

Spalec posted:

Wouldn't this open up the floodgates to all sorts of BS suits? Like, if a game claimed 60fps but dipped down to 55fps in intense bits, now there would be precedent to sue for 'false advertising'.

Honestly I think the most likely outcome from all this is that they're just going to stop advertising the resolution/framerate of console games full stop.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:23

Failboattootoot: Feb 6, 2011; Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

dscruffy1 posted:

I got a PS4 from a Christmas party. Any consensus on what games aren't a waste of time/are coming out soon?

If you have friends who like to local co-op, Nidhogg, Sports Friends (game is not your typical sports game), and Towerfall: Ascension are all good times. Resogun is probably still the best Ps4 exclusive. There's a lot of stuff I would recommend in general but it's all multiplat. Assuming you haven't, or don't want to play these on some other platform, Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition, Wolfenstein: New World Order, The Last of Us Remastered, GTA 5, and Shadows of Mordor are all really easy recommendations. If you want only the AAA completely exclusive games, then Infamous: Second Son is a good game. Not great but it's solid and easily worth the price now.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:23

EC: Jul 10, 2001; The Legend

I'm only about an hour into AC:Unity and I'm pretty blown away by how terrible it is. Combat is bad, FPS is sluggish, controls (besides the controlled descent thing, which is cool) seem worse than previous AC games, loading times are terrible, it hard-locked my PS4 before I got to the title screen...what a disappointment. I knew going in that it was bad, but yikes.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:26

abagofcheetos: Oct 29, 2003; by FactsAreUseless

Stux posted:

destroy it

I might consider an experiment on how resilient 360s are to firearms in the spring... havent turned it on in years and the stupid thing barely even works anymore.

I bet that power brick could take a beating.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:30

SubponticatePoster: Aug 9, 2004; Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.; Slippery Tilde

dscruffy1 posted:

I got a PS4 from a Christmas party. Any consensus on what games aren't a waste of time/are coming out soon?

Bloodborne in a couple of months, definitely, if you like Souls games. Resogun is really cheap and a great "sit down and play for 20 minutes oops I just wasted 2 hours." Dragon Age Inquisition looks fantastic on the 4 and will give you shitloads of playtime if you like that sort of thing. MGS is a glorified (but really good) demo you can probably pick up for $20 and Phantom Pain comes out next year as well.

EC posted:

I'm only about an hour into AC:Unity and I'm pretty blown away by how terrible it is. Combat is bad, FPS is sluggish, controls (besides the controlled descent thing, which is cool) seem worse than previous AC games, loading times are terrible, it hard-locked my PS4 before I got to the title screen...what a disappointment. I knew going in that it was bad, but yikes.

I just got this as a Christmas gift, maybe I'll return it unopened and get something else :smith:

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:31

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

abagofcheetos posted:

I might consider an experiment on how resilient 360s are to firearms in the spring... havent turned it on in years and the stupid thing barely even works anymore.

I bet that power brick could take a beating.

thats no fun as it isn't a limited edition playstation that people have been going mad over.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 16:41

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

What are the differences between the PS4 and PC versions of Minecraft?

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:07

Szurumbur: Feb 17, 2011

I said come in! posted:

What are the differences between the PS4 and PC versions of Minecraft?

Although I don't play Minecraft, I'd guess mods are where the biggest difference lies - I very much doubt the PS4 version supports them.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:09

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

I said come in! posted:

What are the differences between the PS4 and PC versions of Minecraft?

pc version is a bit ahead of the console versions in updates and mod support

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:10

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

Szurumbur posted:

Although I don't play Minecraft, I'd guess mods are where the biggest difference lies - I very much doubt the PS4 version supports them.

I've never played Minecraft before, I don't really like playing games on PC, so i've been looking at the PS4 version since I can get it for $5.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:11

Szurumbur: Feb 17, 2011

I said come in! posted:

I've never played Minecraft before, I don't really like playing games on PC, so i've been looking at the PS4 version since I can get it for $5.

From what I understand, the differences are typical consoles vs. PC situation - the PS 4 version is a bit smaller in terms of gameworld, though it's still fairly large, and of course you probably can't simply download whatever mod you wish. It still is perfectly fine game and Minecraft port in all regards, it seems.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:37

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

The PC version map size is limited by physics

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:39

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Szurumbur posted:

From what I understand, the differences are typical consoles vs. PC situation - the PS 4 version is a bit smaller in terms of gameworld, though it's still fairly large, and of course you probably can't simply download whatever mod you wish. It still is perfectly fine game and Minecraft port in all regards, it seems.

this gets muddled as minecraft pc will just keep generating the world for an extremely long time so yeah, its smaller. but not like on the ps3/360 where the game world is significantly restricted to where you can hit the edges without major effort, the ps4 version is big enough that its not noticeable for a good while (36 times bigger i think?)

console versions have a tutorial and a simplified crafting system as well. instead of having to remember recipes you can simply pick from a list and i think its better honestly, most people mod the pc version to do that anyway.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:40

Aphrodite: Jun 27, 2006

Consoles also have splitscreen.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:41

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

Just wanted to pop in and say that I just bought a ps4, my first playstation of any generation because last of us seems like a rad game.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:42

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

FCKGW posted:

Just wanted to pop in and say that I just bought a ps4, my first playstation of any generation because last of us seems like a rad game.

it is a really rad game

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:43

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

How's multiplayer in Minecraft PS4? Is it pretty easy to find a gameworld to connect to and just play with random people?

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:46

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

I said come in! posted:

How's multiplayer in Minecraft PS4? Is it pretty easy to find a gameworld to connect to and just play with random people?

if its like the other console version you can only play with friends and friends of friends etc through invites and inviting others.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:48

Crappy Jack: Nov 21, 2005; We got some serious shit to discuss.

Also the console versions have great controller support. I haven't played on PC in a while, but last time I did, you had to do all sorts of voodoo to get a controller working, and personally I feel like Minecraft is made for chilling out on the couch instead of sitting at a desk. But that's personal preference.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:50

Bigsteve: Dec 15, 2000; Cock It!

The Crew is only �25 at Game in the UK at the moment. Worth it? I loved me some test drive unlimited.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 17:58

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# ? May 29, 2024 19:28

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

Bigsteve posted:

The Crew is only �25 at Game in the UK at the moment. Worth it? I loved me some test drive unlimited.

It's another UBISoft disaster. Very buggy game and the servers don't work, which is terrible because it's online only.

# ? Dec 18, 2014 18:02

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