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Sperglord Firecock posted:There's a switch next to that AC switch.  I know there is no shroud there as I've been saying from the beginning of your thread, but is there a fan in the right spot period? The fan is supposed to be behind the radiator, right in front of the engine like the ^^ photos previously showed, which I began to doubt hence my earlier edit. If not, as I suspect there isn't, the previous owner was a god drat hack and no wonder you're having heating issues. Hopefully nothing serious has happened. Get a fan and clutch, even a non-turbo should be fine, and put it on.
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DefaultPeanut posted:I'm going to go with: there is no mechanical driven fan at all. Hold on, I'm gonna take a picture tomorrow. This isn't an AC Fan, it's an electrically-driven two-fan set up right ontop of the radiator.
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Dec 19, 2014 04:44
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Behind (IE: motor side) of the radiator or the front? The front is the OEM spot for the AC condenser fan and won't give nearly enough air movement for the radiator.
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Dec 19, 2014 04:46
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Alternately, the PO replaced the mechanical fan with an electric one for "reasons". I'd figure it out and pull it asap.
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Dec 19, 2014 04:47
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Motor side of the radiator. Like I said, when the fan is on, it never gets above 180 degrees. Not the OP, the PO.
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Dec 19, 2014 04:59
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OK, so no mechanical fan at all then. Solution: Get the old fan/clutch from the PO or buy from a wrecker. The PO was obviously concerned about parasitic drag from a loving 30 year old VG30ET and decided electric is the way to go for which he should be shot. You still need to confirm that air is purged from the cooling system even though the fan is almost certainly the problem. You could look at wiring a thermo switch for the fans but no offense, that seems beyond your present skill set. The fan hub is literally 4-6 bolts and I'm hopeful you could do that.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:06
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Sperglord Firecock posted:Edit:
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Dec 19, 2014 05:10
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OK. So. The Datsun 310 is the one with the broken heater? When I said I was worried that you thought a wiring problem caused the heater to not work "in the Z" I guess I was talking about that, because I missed your edit where you said it was not a "300X" which I guess I assumed you meant 300ZX. Which didn't exist in 1980 so that should have been my clue, but like I said I don't really know these cars. Sorry for the massive derail about heaters that this thread suffered because of my poor reading comprehension.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:15
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It's not so much poor comprehension, this thread is all over the place. His Z31 has heating issues, the mystical 300X is a potential beater while he gets his pussy wagon in shape.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:20
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Pics of the fans. More times than not the lovely dual ebay setups suck less than a good working mechanical. It takes some serious loving work to get better performance from an electric vs mechanical with "universal" ones. If its no volvoid fan, or mkIII, its probably a piece of poo poo.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:21
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slidebite posted:It's not so much poor comprehension, this thread is all over the place. His Z31 has heating issues, the mystical 300X is a potential beater while he gets his pussy wagon in shape. Yeah I'm aware of the cooling issues thie Z31 has, I just mis-interpreted him and thought that the heater not working was another one of them. Turns out that's the other car. I'd be really worried about how long it was driven with the belt thrown; I can't imagine driving a turbo car with zero water circulation is a good idea.
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Dec 19, 2014 05:25
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If I understand it right, the 300ZX hopefully hasn't had a belt thrown, it just has no mechanical fan which is a stupid move from the PO. Dude just needs to do a little bit of elbow grease, getting parts and research, of which there is plenty of help right here, to get his ride going. It's not tough, he just needs to take the time to comprehend what is needed and do it.
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slidebite posted:If I understand it right, the 300ZX hopefully hasn't had a belt thrown, it just has no mechanical fan which is a stupid move from the PO. It has. Remember when he took it to the mechanic because the battery died? It's because it threw the belt. Sperglord Firecock posted:Nope. I'm just worried because I expect the water pump is on the same belt as the alternator.
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Everyone stop loving sperging and take some time to read. 1) the car doesn't overheat 1a) it has twin eBay fans activated by a switch 2) the car does in fact have a working heater 3) the car overheated once due to flinging an alt belt 4) the car may or may not have a parasitic battery drain OP, ask for this for Christmas: http://m.harborfreight.com/professional-301-piece-mechanics-tool-kit-45951.html (It's $150 with a coupon currently) mafoose fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Dec 19, 2014 06:25
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That is a pretty lovely set, even being Harbor Freight. It has virtually no usable wrenches, and they added a ton of their $5 for twice-as-many-as-here screwdrivers. OP would probably do better picking up the sockets, wrenches, and pliers separately.
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Dec 19, 2014 06:30
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SF please take a bunch of pictures of the engine bay for us, from every angle and point of view. Its so frustrating that you havent done that yet. We can help you.
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Fart Pipe posted:SF please take a bunch of pictures of the engine bay for us, from every angle and point of view. Its so frustrating that you havent done that yet. We can help you. I'm gonna get it tomorrow when it's light outside.
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Dec 19, 2014 06:45
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Make sure your camera isn't overheating and the battery posts aren't too weak for it to turn on. 
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Viggen posted:Make sure your camera isn't overheating and the battery posts aren't too weak for it to turn on.  sometimes you're ok, Vigge.
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Viggen posted:Make sure your camera isn't overheating and the battery posts aren't too weak for it to turn on. Okay, that was pretty funny, I'll take that.
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Viggen posted:That is a pretty lovely set, even being Harbor Freight. It has virtually no usable wrenches, and they added a ton of their $5 for twice-as-many-as-here screwdrivers. OP would probably do better picking up the sockets, wrenches, and pliers separately. You buy the cheap wrenches separately (and don't get the polished ones, get the metric ones that go from 8mm to 32ish). This was my junkyard set for years, I've pulled many engines, transmissions, etc with it throughout the years. For someone with no tools this is a great starter set. Plus these screw drivers are their snap on knock offs. I've only broken one of them compared to countless ones of the others they sell. This set has enough random tools in it that it doesn't matter if he's working on a Datsun, Chevy, or VW, it'll have almost everything needed, regardless of vintage.
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Dec 19, 2014 09:42
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Can I post my Z32 here? 
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TescoBag posted:Can I post my Z32 here? Depends, was it a bad choice?
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Raluek posted:Depends, was it a bad choice? Nobody will ever convince me it was! Had a new engine last Christmas though 
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TescoBag posted:Nobody will ever convince me it was! I'm not sure it would fit in with this thread if you have actually made some good choices on the car, but I'll allow the OP to decide either way!
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TescoBag posted:Can I post my Z32 here? My uncle has two of those, a red and a black. They were bad choices because they're both automatic non-turbo cars.
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CornHolio posted:My uncle has two of those, a red and a black. They were bad choices because they're both automatic non-turbo cars. Still great to drive! Mine is a manual turbo and they're becoming hard to find in the UK these days.
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TescoBag posted:Still great to drive! I didn't know they made turbo'd 2+2'd ones, or did we just not get them stateside?
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CornHolio posted:My uncle has two of those, a red and a black. They were bad choices because they're both automatic non-turbo cars. Weren't those cars just really really sluggish without a turbo?
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Sperglord Firecock posted:Weren't those cars just really really sluggish without a turbo? It depends on what you mean by "sluggish." I mean, it's basically a RWD Maxima. Not slow, not sports-car-quick, quick enough for most though.
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Korwen posted:I didn't know they made turbo'd 2+2'd ones, or did we just not get them stateside? Possibly just didn't get them stateside! Mine is an import however. Sperglord Firecock posted:Weren't those cars just really really sluggish without a turbo? I dunno they're relatively nippy!
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Sperglord Firecock posted:Weren't those cars just really really sluggish without a turbo? One of my buddies a long time ago had a NA one. It wasn't what I would call sluggish, but for an enthusiast it didn't make any sense. It was almost as tough to work on as a turbo (seriously cramped engine bay) and the gains from modding it were very minimal. Kind of like modding a V6 Mustang, if you're wanting a really fast car you're just better off buying the superior platform first.
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Korwen posted:One of my buddies a long time ago had a NA one. It wasn't what I would call sluggish, but for an enthusiast it didn't make any sense. It was almost as tough to work on as a turbo (seriously cramped engine bay) and the gains from modding it were very minimal. Kind of like modding a V6 Mustang, if you're wanting a really fast car you're just better off buying the superior platform first. Very much this. They're great cars but if you get the turbo version there is so much you can do to increase the power easily. It doesn't make sense to get the NA version. I dropped a new clutch, ECU, injectors and a boost controller in mine and it's up to 400hp. ezpz edit: Forgot I added a new air filter too!
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Imma jus' leave this here..
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Sperglord Firecock posted:Weren't those cars just really really sluggish without a turbo? IIRC a stock NA Z32 put out more HP/torque than a stock Turbo Z31.
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slidebite posted:IIRC a stock NA Z32 put out more HP/torque than a stock Turbo Z31. Huh. Welp. I still think the first gen looks much better than the second gen.
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cursedshitbox posted:More times than not the lovely dual ebay setups suck less than a good working mechanical. I'm assuming you mean "suck" as in airflow rather than a statement of quality, C/D?
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slidebite posted:IIRC a stock NA Z32 put out more HP/torque than a stock Turbo Z31. they are a bit heavier though
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Since you say your job in the Navy was electrical systems then I have to ask, did you leave voluntarily or did they kick you out? Maybe you can install this and not have to flip a radio shack switch on and off? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hda-3652
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Vitamin J posted:Since you say your job in the Navy was electrical systems then I have to ask, did you leave voluntarily or did they kick you out? I left voluntarily. TBH, I struck into the rate on a 100% advancement rate as an undesignated Fireman because I didn't really want to work in the 140 degree engine room anymore. I knew next to nothing about electrical systems, and they pretty much made no effort to teach me, instead sending me to do, well, bitchwork.
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