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CrashCat posted:But I would like to at least punch you in spirit. You sick, violent beast. You should be put down for the good of humanity.
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CrashCat posted:Who was it that I threatened to kill if we got the 'definition of censorship' argument in here? Glad I didn't toxx that cause I don't actually want to murder someone. But I would like to at least punch you in spirit. Powercrazy mentioned the big C word. First they came for the child porn, now they're trying to stop the child killing. When will it end.
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I understand you can't separate fantasy from reality, but drawings aren't real, neither are video games. also stop talking about censorship, a term you have scarcely a sophomoric understand of.
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Dec 19, 2014 18:56
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Ddraig posted:Powercrazy mentioned the big C word. What the gently caress
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Ddraig posted:Powercrazy mentioned the big C word. Also  at casually trying to drag pedophilia into the conversation.
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Am I going to end up being momma duck for a bunch of crazy people
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 , but gigantic
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Dec 19, 2014 19:03
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I can't believe people are getting worked up over a lovely looking piece of shovelware that thirteen year olds in 2001 would've found edgy and cool. Just stop talking about it and it will eventually go away.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:05
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Endorph posted:
This is me now
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Dec 19, 2014 19:05
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I think Ddraig needs to chill out and play his favorite game, Far Cry 2, instead of throwing another temper tantrum. Clearing out the same outpost a few times and getting attacked by his own allies should clear his mind and show him what a real grimdark game is.
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I think people shouldn't block the sale of something just because they disagree with it. That being said I'm not going to buy this game, because it looks bad and the developers seem like assholes. Thanks for listening to my opinion.
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Did you know every .00003 seconds several hundred characters are killed in a video game? Yes, that's right, in the time it has taken me to type this, thousands upon thousands of depictions of human beings, nonhuman beings, vague approximations of sentient creatures and, needless to say, billions of virtual animals have been brutally slaughtered. Oftentimes these definitively innocent virtual things, who's only crime was being created by humans, are being killed horribly by virtual fire, bullets, lasers, magical spells, yelling, flying furniture, other characters, physics glitches, robots and in other inhumane and frankly impossible ways. When will this brutality end? I propose we set a stop to it right now. The journey will be long and hard, but won't it be worth it to finally live in a world where no one need have their minds sullied by anything more graphic than plant growth simulators? Stand with me and my freshly founded lobbying group, Gamers Ethically Thwarting Outlandish Uberviolence and Terror.
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Pirate Jet posted:I think people shouldn't block the sale of something just because they disagree with it. Mods, can we get a ban on this fascist-loving bastard?
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Eye of Widesauron posted:Am I going to end up being momma duck for a bunch of crazy people yes, yes, the hellthread shall consume all
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closeted republican posted:I think Ddraig needs to chill out and play his favorite game, Far Cry 2, instead of throwing another temper tantrum. Clearing out the same outpost a few times and getting attacked by his own allies should clear his mind and show him what a real grimdark game is. Far Cry 2 is far from my favorite but it is very good. Surprisingly it also features a lot of killing people which I don't object to on principle. It also isn't made by neo Nazis so it also has that going for it. If you're going to pick an edgy grimdark game I would highly recommend Far Cry 2 and probably not Hatred. Thanks for your time.
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Ddraig posted:It also isn't made by neo Nazis so it also has that going for it.
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CrashCat posted:It isn't that you know of. Maybe you should get some Twitter detectives on the case, just to be sure. Well I think creepy Internet detective work isn't great but if the developers did come out and say they supported Combat 18 or whatever I would certainly refrain from recommending it to people.
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Ddraig posted:Far Cry 2 is far from my favorite but it is very good. Surprisingly it also features a lot of killing people which I don't object to on principle. It also isn't made by neo Nazis so it also has that going for it. Neither was Hatred. There is no evidence to that effect beyond there apparently having been one dev that clicked the 'like' button on facebook . I know, I know, you really hate Neo-Nazis. At the core of it, that's not a bad thing! However when you are so eager to hate on Neo-Nazis you will attack anyone some idiot (or group thereof) said was a Neo-Nazi... you are cheapening the cause of hating on Neo-Nazis by becoming nigh as blind as they tend to be. You are, at that point, hating for the sake of hating with the accusation of Neo-Nazism simply being a convenient excuse. You are becoming your enemy.
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Pirate Jet posted:I think people shouldn't block the sale of something just because they disagree with it. Apparently that is quite the controversial opinion to some. In fact it makes some people SO MAD they will buy swastika avatars for people they disagree with. I too will probably not buy this game, because it will be trash, but If it turns out to be good, then I will buy it.
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Ddraig posted:Well I think creepy Internet detective work isn't great but if the developers did come out and say they supported Combat 18 or whatever I would certainly refrain from recommending it to people. the devs' website posted:"My grand-grand father was killed by Gestapo. Some members of my family were fighting against nazi occupation in the polish underground army called "Armia Krajowa". My forefathers suffered greatly because of totallitarian regimes, so who the gently caress would I be if I'd truly support any of nazi activists? People give "likes" on Facebook all the time, even if they don't know what is exactly behind this or that fanpage. I did the same. Suddenly it makes me neo-nazi, great, have fun you stupid rear end haters. Learn some history first, because when I read about "polish death camps" it makes me disgusted. You don't know poo poo about our history and you fall easily to false propaganda. The hateful title I'm working on (where virtual character hates virtual characters), doesn't have any connection to what I truly believe and think, there is a real-life outside, you know? Maybe you should try it? I will never ever again respond to any of those accusations, this is my ultimate statement."
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Didn't you make a post earlier putting Nazis, Jews and Furries in roughly the same category of people being unnecessarily otherized. I mean you have the CEO following far right extremists, the artist posting his aryan tattoo designs and another dude following a legit anti-Jewish movement and attending one of their marches. It could all just be a series of unfortunate accidents. Maybe the tattoo artist is completely unfamiliar with the concept of aryan artwork like Mjolnir with a swastika in it, maybe the CEO was truly looking for unbiased news like how Muslims are taking over the world with Halal and maybe that dude going on the march doesn't like matzo. I'm guessing the real answer is more likely that they're loving racist and desperately back peddling to justify their lovely beliefs coming out.
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Hitler did nothing wrong.
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hmm yes when I think about people who scramble to hide their true political opinions for the sake of appearance I think of neonazis and ultrarightwing fascists
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idk that one guy's a libertarian and that other guy said 'i have gay friends!!!' so they're basically like hitler
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The Snark posted:Neither was Hatred. There is no evidence to that effect beyond there apparently having been one dev that clicked the 'like' button on facebook . Well you see, they're not neo-Nazis but they are fascist sympathizers and probably complete dickheads, and their game looks boring so I'm not buying it.
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Ddraig posted:Didn't you make a post earlier putting Nazis, Jews and Furries in roughly the same category of people being unnecessarily otherized. quote:I mean you have the CEO following far right extremists, the artist posting his aryan tattoo designs and another dude following a legit anti-Jewish movement and attending one of their marches.  circ dick soleil posted:Hitler did nothing wrong. 
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Ddraig posted:Didn't you make a post earlier putting Nazis, Jews and Furries in roughly the same category of people being unnecessarily otherized. shut up you human being
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what the ubelieveable gently caress is all this? i dont even know how you j
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I hate Nazis, except for that lovable Sergeant Schutz. What a character.
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King Vidiot posted:Well you see, they're not neo-Nazis but they are fascist sympathizers and probably complete dickheads, and their game looks boring so I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it either, though every time someone says it won't sell at all I am tempted to just to demonstrate the objective falsity. Their supposed fascist sympathies are, even if they exist at all, are being exaggerated to hell and back and I think the odds of them being complete dickheads is unlikely. I believe complete dickheads would have handled this much worse than they have thus far. For the most part they just seem to be incredulous at things like the Polygon hit-piece even while they seem to be perfectly aware it probably only translates into more sales in the end. I will also buy it if in a twist ending it turns out to be Nathan Explosion's fever dream, as at least one goon has hypothesized. CrashCat posted:I apologize for being snippy but I think you could see where I was coming from since I thought that was the only piece of evidence presented. As far as I am aware, that still is pretty much the only 'evidence' presented. Another goon who apparently claims to be an expert on racist symbolism said that he saw where one of the devs did tattoos once that had such symbolism in them- though I would say it seems highly unlikely that only neo-nazi fascists like Mjolnir. The Snark fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Ddraig posted:I'm guessing the real answer is more likely that they're loving racist and desperately back peddling to justify their lovely beliefs coming out. Probably, but so what?
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When I gave Secret Ponchos a shot a few weeks ago, it fell pretty flat. But, it did give me an odd craving for a Smash TV-like game. Hatred might scratch that itch, but if the game really is just "go kill everything until you die" sort of thing then I dunno. I guess I like objectives to my mass murder simulators. I doubt it'll be cheap enough for me to feel it worth the grab. Not until it goes on sale or something.
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poptart_fairy posted:i dont think draig has given citations for any of the stuff he's ranted about in a dozen threads
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