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david carmichael posted:to be clear: just because i think you are wrong does not necessarily mean i think anyone else is right. I have been demonstrably right about everything in general.
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further clarification: i maintain that you might not be stupid, it is possible that you are instead mentally ill.
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david carmichael posted:further clarification: i maintain that you might not be stupid, it is possible that you are instead mentally ill.
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if anyone's underestimating punk's "athletic capabilities" it's probably because he's an injury prone wreck of a man who wasn't very athletic or coordinated by pro wrestling standards. also he refuses to take drugs like a good fighter.
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minor threat was a pretty cool band being straight edge is alright
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freud mayweather posted:if anyone's underestimating punk's "athletic capabilities" it's probably because he's an injury prone wreck of a man who wasn't very athletic or coordinated by pro wrestling standards. also he refuses to take drugs like a good fighter.
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cams posted:seriously the phenomenon of people being super defensive in this thread about a wrestleguy coming in to the ufc is really weird. like people believe that dudes on the facebook prelims are godlike warriors who's skills are trained like ninjas
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david carmichael posted:further clarification: i maintain that you might not be stupid, it is possible that you are instead mentally ill.
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Grifter posted:Can you name a few guys on the prelims like Punk.
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cams posted:no no lets go back to you trying to pretend that you're smart and you want to have an "intelligent discussion" about the outcomes of a future fight between cm punk and whoever while being super defensive on behalf of this thread if at any point it was not clear that i was making fun of you then i apologize completely
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More footage of punk training: http://youtu.be/q7eK85rFZNo
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Stupid ugly yuriy
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david carmichael posted:if at any point it was not clear that i was making fun of you then i apologize completely
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cams posted:sounds like he's a completely unknown variable, to me! i hope the odds are way against him i want to place my first mma bet since i bet against anderson silva and then he shattered his own leg It's almost a lock that any odds made will have Punk as a very heavy favorite against anybody he's going to face while he's an unknown.
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I figure the longer this thread goes, the higher the PPV Buyrate will be when Punk finally fights
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cm punk has called himself batman a couple of times so just like batman if you give him enough time to plan a fight he'll win some how
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Skip My Posts posted:More footage of punk training:
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Skip My Posts posted:More footage of punk training: Punk's been working on his takedowns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS9vdoX3Ju0
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MagicCube posted:Punk's been working on his takedowns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS9vdoX3Ju0 Uh no sorry that guy drinks beer
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Great White Hope posted:It's almost a lock that any odds made will have Punk as a very heavy favorite against anybody he's going to face while he's an unknown.
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cams posted:eh to be fair if he's a favorite i doubt it's by much. I'm assuming there will be a lot more money in on Punk than on whoever he goes against by virtue of popularity, which will skew the odds accordingly.
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Odds aren't based on who is gonna win it's based on how people are gonna bet. He'd be a favorite because retard idiots (cams) are gonna bet on him for some reason and Vegas knows it.
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cams posted:sounds like he's a completely unknown variable, to me! i hope the odds are way against him i want to place my first mma bet since i bet against anderson silva and then he shattered his own leg so to clarify 1) you don't believe in chris weidman 2) you think bendo is not the recipient of at least one robbery 3) you think cm punk is an unknown variable at the age of 37 who is a better fighter than the facebook prelim guys who have been training for years gotcha
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unless cm punk is fighting a current or former ufc fighter he will almost certainly be the betting favourite
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Yuriy posted:so to clarify he also believes that comic book magic is real
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i am always happy to have yuriy on the other side of anything i believe also you showing off your amazing reading comprehension with the first thing on that list bro
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cams posted:fair point, he also fractured his skull and cracked his hip and his knees would probably function better if they were legos people keep saying his knees are absolutely destroyed so imo they should bring paul harris back for his first opponent and give him an excuse to get new artificial ones
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david carmichael posted:he also believes that comic book magic is real ya but buying into willpower/fighting spiritu is like 80% of the basis of jmma which is cool
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It also turned Sakuraba into a shambling corpse.
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He won't be able to get through an actual camp without being injured.....or peer pressured. Both dangerous obstacles
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Solomonic posted:people keep saying his knees are absolutely destroyed so imo they should bring paul harris back for his first opponent and give him an excuse to get new artificial ones
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Grifter posted:Can you name a few guys on the prelims like Punk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Mitrione
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CM Punk is older than Mitrione.
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Tough loss, Joe. The willpower was there and I had a pretty good camp until Keith invited me to his house to watch some Football and share a six pack. From there out it was difficult to get any real work in.
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mitrione had a black belt in shotokan, and had done a bunch of toughman and kickboxing stuff before he started playing the foosball
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Maybe this doesn't count as 'significant background' but it's more than Punk has. quote:Mitrione also trained in Shotokan Karate, Kickboxing, and other combat sports as a teenager. Mitrione even competed in Toughman Contests while he was still in high school, and finished second in a tournament in his hometown of Springfield, during his sophomore year of college.
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like not to say that punk won't necessarily have the kind of success that mitrione had, but mitrione certainly had a better background before debuting against scott "trash" junk
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Also Mitrione is stronger, faster, and more athletic than punk. Also he's a heavyweight. Not sure how his willpower stacks up
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