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Stephanie lost her memory and forgot she loved Test after Davey Boy Smith threw a trash can at her head on one of them I think
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Spermgod posted:Stephanie lost her memory and forgot she loved Test after Davey Boy Smith threw a trash can at her head on one of them I think
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Dec 19, 2014 05:02
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has anything of any storyline importance (changing of a title, storyline moving forward in a meaningful way etc) ever actually happened at a British WWE PPV? Can you safely skip all the Inserrection etc shows I guess is my question. I actually didn't know WWE was doing them when I was watching and I had no moments of "huh?" (aside from Russo nonsense) back then.
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One Night Only has the Shawn/Davey match where Davey lost the European title in front of his dying sister. The dickiest move HBK ever pulled IMO.
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Thauros posted:Thanks guys. I think it has more to do with in Mexico it's considered a "sport" in the sense that Americans consider Figure Skating or floor gymnastics a sport. Where everything is planned out ahead of time but what matters is the displays of skill, talent and athleticism rather than whether or not one guy winning was "real".
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El Estrago Bonito posted:I think it has more to do with in Mexico it's considered a "sport" in the sense that Americans consider Figure Skating or floor gymnastics a sport. Where everything is planned out ahead of time but what matters is the displays of skill, talent and athleticism rather than whether or not one guy winning was "real". Eh this is kind of a an untrue American understanding of lucha, especially today. AAA is the most visible of the two major companies and while AAA has some athletic guys it draws with lots of soap opera storylines, big stars from the boom period and good vs evil escapism. Lucha has always been very big on the good vs evil escapism. There's definitely the element of it being treated like a real sport by the commissions and remaining publications, but I think the idea that fans care most about skill and athleticism isn't true.
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OctoberCountry posted:It's also why he's been gone for 7 months with no timetable for returning. Actually no, it's not, unless you mean him working hurt in general. But the stinger in that match had nothing to do with the poo poo he's dealing with right now (specifically speaking).
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Dec 19, 2014 08:22
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Thauros posted:Did Big John Studd ever win a title? It says on his wiki page that he was a WWWF World Tag Champ in a team with Killer Kowalski, but I see no record of that either on the Wiki page for the title's history or the WWE's official list. Related to this: I don't know a single thing about Big John Studd except that he was huge, had a bodyslam match with Andre and was in the 2014 WWE game. was he just big but lovely considering no one ever talks about him?
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has anything of any storyline importance (changing of a title, storyline moving forward in a meaningful way etc) ever actually happened at a British WWE PPV? Can you safely skip all the Inserrection etc shows I guess is my question. Davey Boy and Bret at Summerslam, but that's it. The British PPVs are hilarious though and usually worth a watch. They're basically glorified house shows. The triple threat match from 2000 is actually a lot of fun. In terms of moving story lines along etc though no, nothing ever happened there. Except for "Where's my title shot?"
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The one where Mick Foley came out for a promo and said "they told me backstage I'm not allowed to say 'wanker'" was the funniest thing 14 year old me had ever ever heard
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Aesop Poprock posted:Related to this: I don't know a single thing about Big John Studd except that he was huge, had a bodyslam match with Andre and was in the 2014 WWE game. was he just big but lovely considering no one ever talks about him? He also cut off Andre's afro, that motherfucker.
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SG Bamboo posted:It still makes me chuckle that London and Kendrick of all people are officially the longest reigning WWE Tag Team Champions. No other team has come close to equaling their reign. See, before they got rid of the heritage of the old tag belts, Demolition was the longest reigning tag champs. Now it's London and Kendrick.
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Why did Shane Douglas get fired from WCW in 1993?
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Why did Shane Douglas get hired by anyone at any time?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Why did Shane Douglas get hired by anyone at any time? Hey now, I don't think this is fair. People love burying Douglas but I think he was a fine worker and good on the mic.
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Burt Buckle posted:Why did Shane Douglas get fired from WCW in 1993? Did he get fired? I thought he "quit" or faked an injury or something.
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Burt Buckle posted:Why did Shane Douglas get fired from WCW in 1993? Hell, he was in WWF before going back to WCW. People often forget that he had a WWF run before he returned as Dean Douglas.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Did he get fired? I thought he "quit" or faked an injury or something. I thought I read that he was fired, but I just checked his official website and it says he left because he didn't like the direction the company was going. I must have confused this with a later firing. Ignore me (and all WCW 1993 television, I've been marathoning it. Very bad).
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Burt Buckle posted:I thought I read that he was fired, but I just checked his official website and it says he left because he didn't like the direction the company was going. I must have confused this with a later firing. Ignore me (and all WCW 1993 television, I've been marathoning it. Very bad). Of all the things Shane Douglas did or is rumored to have done I don't think you can blame him for wanting to run away from early 90s WCW.
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There was that period of time from late 1990 to early 1993 where it was unwatchable
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triplexpac posted:Hey now, I don't think this is fair. People love burying Douglas but I think he was a fine worker and good on the mic. Douglas was a good worker but not nearly as good as he thought he was, and his promos went on way too long because he never had great instincts on the stick. People bury him because he's convinced that he was The Guy in wrestling and got screwed over by politics, and he just wasn't that guy at all. It's really obvious how full of poo poo he is when you see him work anywhere besides ECW.
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CombineThresher posted:Douglas was a good worker but not nearly as good as he thought he was, and his promos went on way too long because he never had great instincts on the stick. People bury him because he's convinced that he was The Guy in wrestling and got screwed over by politics, and he just wasn't that guy at all. It's really obvious how full of poo poo he is when you see him work anywhere besides ECW. He deserves credit for being the prototype of Triple H's Game character.
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Saul Goode posted:He deserves credit for being the prototype Love him or hate him,
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Saul Goode posted:He deserves credit for being the prototype of Triple H's Game character. He's doin big bidness, I live this
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ayn rand hand job posted:He's doin big bidness, I live this Is he a soulja though?
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Does everyone else also hate the WWE ZOOM IN at the impact moment of moves? It makes modern WWE programming, including NXT, impossible to watch for me.
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Sub Rosa posted:Does everyone else also hate the WWE ZOOM IN at the impact moment of moves? It makes modern WWE programming, including NXT, impossible to watch for me. Is it universally hated? I can't speak for everyone in the universe, but there's a lot of loathing for it around here.
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Memento posted:Is it universally hated? I can't speak for everyone in the universe, but there's a lot of loathing for it around here.
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Sub Rosa posted:Does everyone else also hate the WWE ZOOM IN at the impact moment of moves? It makes modern WWE programming, including NXT, impossible to watch for me. It's loving dumb.
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Sub Rosa posted:Does everyone else also hate the WWE ZOOM IN at the impact moment of moves? It makes modern WWE programming, including NXT, impossible to watch for me. Feels like I'm watching a video game, the WWE games also used to have camera effects during finishers. I hope they do slow motion next.
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My pet peeve is whenever they do a backstage promo, they always have to insert an unneccesary shot of the audience with the titantron in the background. Like it's important that we have to be told that fans at the show are seeing what we're seeing too, for some reason. Half the time nobody's even watching it anyway.
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Dec 20, 2014 14:10
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i think cornette said this but maybe not, the zoom in/quick cut is a big slap in the face to the talent and basically says we don't trust you to make your moves look convincing and it often totally cuts out the actual impact. it also screams "reality show" and shatters any remaining vestige of attempting to look like a legitimate sporting event. like most things in wwe, if used sparingly it would be fine because it's unique and something that only they could pull off production-wise, but it is completely over-used.
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WeaponX posted:i think cornette said this but maybe not, the zoom in/quick cut is a big slap in the face to the talent and basically says we don't trust you to make your moves look convincing and it often totally cuts out the actual impact. it also screams "reality show" and shatters any remaining vestige of attempting to look like a legitimate sporting event. It also doesn't work because cutting on impact is a mistake that movies make, and it isn't as convincing as people think it is. There was a video recently on the editing in Jackie Chan movies that demonstrate this. Often, they'll show Jackie performing a kick, and then the next shot will slightly overlap with that one before showing the impact. It's because it allows the eye to adjust to what's being seen and take in the strike. I know that a movie and a live event has a different feel and rythm, but instead what happens when they zoom or cut is that I feel like I'm missing something. It doesn't have the desired effect, it just makes me wonder why they're cutting away.
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The "zoom in on impact" camerawork started in ECW, so blame Heyman. No idea why WWE only started doing it recently.
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Why did the seasons of NXT that were on SciFi have those weird camera angles? I loved it, it made it feel different from the other 47 hours of WWE programming every week.
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Sub Rosa posted:Does everyone else also hate the WWE ZOOM IN at the impact moment of moves? It makes modern WWE programming, including NXT, impossible to watch for me. Yeah it's pretty awful. Doesn't get to me as much as JERK THE CAMERA IN EVERY DIRECTION during chaotic moments though. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Dec 20, 2014 |
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the zoom in sucks because it makes it so you can't see the cool move as well imagine if every time austin did a stunner it zoomed in on the shoulder, you wouldn't be able to see rock's ridiculous flips or anything
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Why did NewGen WWF have such an influx of insane gimmicks? Like a wrestling mountie, wrestling dentist, wrestling college professor? There were plenty of weird gimmicks before and after but watching 92-96 it feels like 90% of the roster either had a "wrestling as second job" gimmick or some other outlandish thing like Bastion Booger. Was there anyone backstage during that time who kept pitching ideas like that? Or was it all Vince? Did he use up all his good gimmick ideas in the 80s?
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Happyman posted:Why did NewGen WWF have such an influx of insane gimmicks? Like a wrestling mountie, wrestling dentist, wrestling college professor? There were plenty of weird gimmicks before and after but watching 92-96 it feels like 90% of the roster either had a "wrestling as second job" gimmick or some other outlandish thing like Bastion Booger. If I recall it was Bruce Pritchard but I might be wrong
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More than the bad camera work I particularly hate how Michael cole acts like he is taking the moves by giving his voice an inflection even for simple transition moves. Any time someone hits the mat he has to go Ohhhh! And it's really annoying.
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