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ok i don't literally mean "the semantic web", i mean the notion that the web is a massive navigable graph of data instead it's heading towards a sea of islands populated by savage code that you have to run in order to get at that data, one disconnected chunk at a time. "REST"ful apis (if they actually are REST to begin with and not just "like SOAP but with JSON instead of XML") are no good if there's no universal way to navigate them other than running a bunch of alien JavaScript that expects to be able to simultaneously drive a GUI.
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they're islands because that's how they generate ad revenue. who benefits from a libre graph of data
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single page applications that aren't garbage are indistinguishable from regular old multi-page web sites like youtube, for example (which is garbage for a whole host of different reasons, but not because it doesn't retransmit most of the page every single time you navigate around the site)
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pram posted:they're islands because that's how they generate ad revenue. who benefits from a libre graph of data what good is an island if nobody can find it maaaaan ain't gonna get much ad revenue with no visitors
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Mr Dog posted:what good is an island if nobody can find it maaaaan you just need to practice more brand engagement on social media and then your users will come
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also, maybe you're not being disruptive enough? try to disrupt harder
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i heard u like navigation so i put a path after your path so you can display a page on your page
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in tyool2014 i restarted my linux machine and now it doesn't work ahahhahaha
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bobbilljim posted:in tyool2014 i restarted my linux machine and now it doesn't work ahahhahaha surely you did not do something as foolish as updating any part of its software
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forgive me, i ran the sinful command 'yum update'
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i blame systemd
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bobbilljim posted:forgive me, i ran the sinful command 'yum update' fedora? ty for the heads up i foolishly did this yesterday but do not often turn off compute ruby idiot railed posted:i blame systemd d'd by the system
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bobbilljim posted:forgive me, i ran the sinful command 'yum update' that's your mistake then, should have used 'aptitude safe-upgrade' instead
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Mr Dog posted:because i'm guessing Chrome is a natural byproduct of Google having to run a full-fledged headless web browser in a cage in order to scrape all that poo poo. it certainly explains why it has such a strong emphasis on sandboxing. this is basically totally wrong quote:so it seems liek HotJava was the way to go all along and modern single page JavaScript applications are effectively a bastardized version of HotJava only with a lovely scripting language instead of the JVM. then again given Java applets' security track record that might be for the best. based on my experience working on a Java based browser, and Java integrations into other browsers, HotJava would have a hard time being any less the way to go.
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systemd actually totally owns and idk what all those fat retards were/are whining about
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pram posted:systemd actually totally owns and idk what all those fat retards were/are whining about Linux, duh
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beardos basing he identity around a means to an end / idiot nerd tribalism / waaa change + learning
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OldAlias posted:beardos basing he identity around a means to an end / idiot nerd tribalism / waaa change + learning don't forget the untreated mental illness that leads some people to genuinely believe shell scripts are good helsinki syndrome perhaps
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p sure chrome exists to let google scrape more data
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im going to install mint over that fedora shite
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im going to install bucket of dog poo poo over that pile of vomit
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actually fedora is good. sounds like the problem is with you
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bobbilljim posted:im going to install mint over that fedora shite lmao
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bobbilljim posted:im going to install mint over that fedora shite "wow, this food is rancid. I better get another spoon."
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ya fedora is ok. cutting-edge without being too unstable, though it has a few failed experiments like their effort to selinux everything clogging the place up. debian is a bit convervative but if you don't mind being a bit out of date it's a loving swiss army chainsaw, especially for embedded development. like i'm not even fronting here if you're writing code for an embedded platform that's targeted by gcc and you're not using Debian to do it then you're a stupid trendy hipster idiot. arch is good ime if you're feeling a little frisky, just don't install it (or any rolling release distro) on a production server for god's sake or you deserve to get fired with extreme prejudice.
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lol mint is actually just a brown turd painted green. it sucks too hth
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the ops "team" told me mint was good
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bobbilljim posted:the ops "team" told me mint was good how long of a beard does he have?
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bobbilljim posted:the ops "team" told me mint was good lol
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bobbilljim posted:in tyool2014 i restarted my linux machine and now it doesn't work ahahhahaha lol
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pram posted:systemd actually totally owns and idk what all those fat retards were/are whining about systemd doesn't totally own, it just owns as much as it can on a lesser (non-Mach-based) system
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Mr Dog posted:like i'm not even fronting here if you're writing code for an embedded platform that's targeted by gcc and you're not using Debian to do it then you're a stupid trendy hipster idiot. lol if you're targeting anything embedded using anything GPLv3 in your toolchain llvm + clang supremacy
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Suspicious Dish posted:how long of a beard does he have? neither of them have beards sadly. I don't know if that's a good or bad sign
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eschaton posted:llvm + clang supremacy 
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eschaton posted:systemd doesn't totally own, it just owns as much as it can on a lesser (non-Mach-based) system i mean it owns compared to a morass of ye olde artisanal bash scripttes
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mach is hot garbage hth
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Series DD Funding posted:does canonical still sell all your searches to amazon if you did a search in the unity dash for something one of the handlers for that search would anonymize the data, run it through an anonymizing proxy, then query amazon for the same term and return the results (with a +canonical referral link included). After everyone complained easy UI to disable it was added in the next release, and I believe today it's off by default.
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