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WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
DC has said none of the Crisis' happened, but yeah, they had to have for a lot of stuff to make any sense.

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Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
Flash could also shot-peen the by-jesus out of it just by poking it really really fast.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I wish they kept the style of the boom tube as what was seen in Wonder Woman. All time stops in a flash of light and a boom that fills the panel.




Edit: TABLES! That's what I get posting from my phone.

Uthor fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Dec 19, 2014

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce
Whatever ended up happening to the Wesley Willis character there?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



He popped back up in the finale to help out and will never be seen again.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Uthor posted:

I wish they kept the style of the boom tube as what was seen in Wonder Woman. All time stops in a flash of light and a boom that fills the panel.




They've been doing it in the Green Lantern event.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Dan Didio posted:

Final Crisis couldn't have happened, but it also has to have and I don't know if that makes perfect sense or I have a brain tumour.

It totally doesn't. But whatever, hypertime.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Teenage Fansub posted:

Batman and Robin #37

Batman and friends have been fighting through Apokolips to retrieve the body of Damian Wayne.




They are going to have to move up to Batman punking teams of top super villains at this rate. Also work in another evil Superman beat down because why not.

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Why did he program the suit to sass him?
"Bat-suit do this."
"Well Bruce, were you aware that doing this will result in this seeing as you designed and programmed these systems yourself?"
"It will?? Huh, abort that order."
I mean it's a voice activated suit with perfect voice recognition not a computer with the "off" button right next to the "porn" button.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Duke Igthorn posted:

Why did he program the suit to sass him?
"Bat-suit do this."
"Well Bruce, were you aware that doing this will result in this seeing as you designed and programmed these systems yourself?"
"It will?? Huh, abort that order."
I mean it's a voice activated suit with perfect voice recognition not a computer with the "off" button right next to the "porn" button.
Actually it looks like Cyborg might have programmed it, so he did it just to mess with Bruce.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

Teenage Fansub posted:

Batman and Robin #37

Batman and friends have been fighting through Apokolips to retrieve the body of Damian Wayne.




Part of me hates poo poo like this because it always brings up the nagging question as to why Batman doesn't just wear stuff like this all the time. It's like he's handicapping himself for no reason.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Monaghan posted:

Part of me hates poo poo like this because it always brings up the nagging question as to why Batman doesn't just wear stuff like this all the time. It's like he's handicapping himself for no reason.

Well, that suit in particular runs off his life force or something like that.

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

Duke Igthorn posted:

Why did he program the suit to sass him?
"Bat-suit do this."
"Well Bruce, were you aware that doing this will result in this seeing as you designed and programmed these systems yourself?"
"It will?? Huh, abort that order."
I mean it's a voice activated suit with perfect voice recognition not a computer with the "off" button right next to the "porn" button.

Isn't that basically what Jarvis does?

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I just liked Darkseid's adorable lil booties :shrug:

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Beef Jerky Robot posted:

Isn't that basically what Jarvis does?

Yeah. It's Iron Man vs Thor in the Avengers movie, replete with Jarvis sass.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
I'm guessing Flash is doing some sort of wind resistance kinda thing, or he's transport for the pieces as mentioned above.

I'm just getting kinda tired of Batman outdoing everyone and judo flipping Jesus cause he's the best thing ever and no one can ever smoke him cause he's BATMAN and that's just how the universe rolls.

The giant bat symbol is hilarious and reminds me of the bat explosive gel from Arkham.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I'm just getting kinda tired of Batman outdoing everyone and judo flipping Jesus cause he's the best thing ever and no one can ever smoke him cause he's BATMAN and that's just how the universe rolls.

I am too but believe it or not it's actually been dialed back from how it was in the late 90s and early-to-mid 00s. Back then you couldn't go 3 months without some "Batman is the most Uber of Ubermensches cause PREP TIME" poo poo going down. Like those Darkseid pages with the magic crystal are pretty weak, but at least they took pains to try and justify it by having him wear some Ultra Armor that was only possible with the help of all his other God-tier friends.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I'm guessing Flash is doing some sort of wind resistance kinda thing, or he's transport for the pieces as mentioned above.

I'm just getting kinda tired of Batman outdoing everyone and judo flipping Jesus cause he's the best thing ever and no one can ever smoke him cause he's BATMAN and that's just how the universe rolls.

The giant bat symbol is hilarious and reminds me of the bat explosive gel from Arkham.

Meh, in this context it's pretty clear he's only capable of doing this because of the combined help of the Justice League.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

Dan Didio posted:

Final Crisis couldn't have happened, but it also has to have and I don't know if that makes perfect sense or I have a brain tumour.

One day soon the exec responsible for DC's decades-old standing order of "whenever our continuity gets too cluttered and confusing let's 'fix' it by introducing a multi-issue multi-comic-line-spanning story involving alternate universes, reality-warping, and time-travel" is going to tear off the rubber mask to reveal a grinning Stan Lee, vigorously twirl his mustache, and run down the street making Three-Stooges-esque whooping noises.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Teenage Fansub posted:

I just liked Darkseid's adorable lil booties :shrug:

Now that you mention it, Darkseid basically has the proportions and the fashion choices of a 1year old. Should he be out alone without his parents? :ohdear:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I'm guessing Flash is doing some sort of wind resistance kinda thing, or he's transport for the pieces as mentioned above.

I'm just getting kinda tired of Batman outdoing everyone and judo flipping Jesus cause he's the best thing ever and no one can ever smoke him cause he's BATMAN and that's just how the universe rolls.

The giant bat symbol is hilarious and reminds me of the bat explosive gel from Arkham.

I really like Injustice because it shows Batman having an enormous amount of trouble taking on Superman, and even being emotionally conflicted about it instead of acting one-dimensionally smug.

I really hope the guy coming after Taylor doesn't gently caress up the series too bad.

Hand of the King
May 11, 2012
Serious questions: I don't know anything about DC. Does Batman have a plan for every villain and superhero? Does he ever lose?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Hand of the King posted:

Serious questions: I don't know anything about DC. Does Batman have a plan for every villain and superhero? Does he ever lose?

It depends who you ask, but lately the answer to those questions has been: absolutely and never.

Hand of the King
May 11, 2012
I guess I'm having a hard time thinking Batman is competitive among his fellow Justice Leaguers. I mean, it's not like he can prep for everything. What if Darkseid shows up while Batman is catching some regular crooks? He'd be hosed...

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Hand of the King posted:

Serious questions: I don't know anything about DC. Does Batman have a plan for every villain and superhero? Does he ever lose?
Kind of depends what "lose" means. Do stories end with him regularly being killed by supervillains? Well, uh, no. But that applies to every established superhero. He certainly faces setbacks and defeats during storylines (see the current Bat-arc under Snyder).

Being a master pre-planner has become part of Bruce's personality and general strategy, to explain how he can stay toe-to-toe with near-gods and monsters. A good writer can make it seem natural and exciting. A poor writer makes it clunky and eye-rolling.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Hand of the King posted:

Serious questions: I don't know anything about DC. Does Batman have a plan for every villain and superhero? Does he ever lose?

Times when Batman loses give us things like Knightfall and Azrael-Batman.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

He just lost his house! Poor Bruce.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

Lurdiak posted:

I really like Injustice because it shows Batman having an enormous amount of trouble taking on Superman, and even being emotionally conflicted about it instead of acting one-dimensionally smug.

I really hope the guy coming after Taylor doesn't gently caress up the series too bad.

I seriously think that's why I love the series so much. When he fucks up, he fucks up BAD. Like when he kinda spaced on the fact the yellow lanterns were all but invading earth and sorta forgot that OH poo poo people are scared of Superman now, so Holy Fucknuggets he's got a ring now god dammit how did I miss that LET'S BOLT PEOPLE.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



redbackground posted:

Being a master pre-planner has become part of Bruce's personality and general strategy
Batman being a paranoid schizophrenic sounds like a fun little Elseworld.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Elseworld?

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!






Comics that DC sometimes put out that bend or break the setting so they aren't "real". There's one where baby Superman landed in Soviet Russia and helps the Russians conquer the world. That sort of thing. The Marvel equivalent are "What If?" books. I don't know if DC's done an Elseworlds book since they rebooted into the New 52, so it may be a dead concept now.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

jng2058 posted:

Comics that DC sometimes put out that bend or break the setting so they aren't "real". There's one where baby Superman landed in Soviet Russia and helps the Russians conquer the world. That sort of thing. The Marvel equivalent are "What If?" books. I don't know if DC's done an Elseworlds book since they rebooted into the New 52, so it may be a dead concept now.

He is making a joke that that is how Batman is already.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Actually I could use some further adventures of The Batman of Zur En Arrh and Bat-mite.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Mr. Maltose posted:

Aquaman is probably doing some Atlantean magic or something.

It's a Guardians of the Galaxy/Justice League crossover. Rocket came up with the plan for the armor and an integral part of that plan was that he needed Aquaman's hand.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



CharlestheHammer posted:

He is making a joke that that is how Batman is already.

I wasn't. I meant like, Batman as a clinically paranoid, never leaving the house and coming up with the most advanced tinfoil hat known to man.

But I see what you mean.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Breetai posted:

One day soon the exec responsible for DC's decades-old standing order of "whenever our continuity gets too cluttered and confusing let's 'fix' it by introducing a multi-issue multi-comic-line-spanning story involving alternate universes, reality-warping, and time-travel" is going to tear off the rubber mask to reveal a grinning Stan Lee, vigorously twirl his mustache, and run down the street making Three-Stooges-esque whooping noises.

I remember Stan Lee's DC sucking. A lot.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

hiddenriverninja posted:

I remember Stan Lee's DC sucking. A lot.

I still like his Flash concept, actually. Neat visual design (by Kevin Maguire) with an origin only slightly dumber that Jay Garrick and Barry Allen's ones.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
The thing about Batman is that there is a beautiful metaphor in him always winning that Morrison really nailed. If Morrison's Superman is the man who will never let us down, Morrison's Batman is the man who will always overcome. That's the trick about badass moments in which he does something ridiculous, he has to be overcoming. He has to be at some disadvantage that he figures out a way around. Even TDKR fight works because it's Bruce giving it all he has. He's fighting Superman with a suit powered by Gotham City. It's not a trick he can pull off twice, but it works for this moment.

Snyder is someone who really understands this. I have issues with his work, but literally every story he's told has shown Batman not just struggle, but be humbled by his opposition. One of the more unnerving things about his work is that he makes it clear that Batman is scared of the Joker.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Timeless Appeal posted:

The thing about Batman is that there is a beautiful metaphor in him always winning that Morrison really nailed. If Morrison's Superman is the man who will never let us down, Morrison's Batman is the man who will always overcome. That's the trick about badass moments in which he does something ridiculous, he has to be overcoming. He has to be at some disadvantage that he figures out a way around. Even TDKR fight works because it's Bruce giving it all he has. He's fighting Superman with a suit powered by Gotham City. It's not a trick he can pull off twice, but it works for this moment.

Snyder is someone who really understands this. I have issues with his work, but literally every story he's told has shown Batman not just struggle, but be humbled by his opposition. One of the more unnerving things about his work is that he makes it clear that Batman is scared of the Joker.

See this post? This is a drat good post and an extremely perceptive point.

I have my issues with Batman and especially Bat-fandom but I do actually like the character and enjoy seeing him be a badass. I just don't like Batman being the Hero-of-All-Superheroes who can take down anyone at any time and is totally justified in being a Right Wing/Randian paranoid-schizophrenic nutjob gone wild. He's not. If anyone at all has claim to the title of "Hero-of-all-superheroes" historically, ethically, and in terms of raw story power it's going to be Superman, and like it or not Batman is always going to be the Silver Medalist in that competition. I understand that's part of why people like to see Batman overcome Superman in a fight, but it very quickly grows antagonistic towards Supes, goes way out of proportion, and often causes people to lose sight of what makes Superman the necessary counterweight to all the great stuff about Batman (and vice versa).

mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Dec 23, 2014

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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting
The thing about Batman 'always having a plan' is that technically he doesn't. What good writers will disguise is that Batman also has loads of plot armor. I mean, in a vacuum, if Batman was just patrolling Gotham one night and let's say Sinestro showed up with a desire to kill him, in a vacuum Batman is dead as a doornail because no amount of vague 'possible-planning' and the best toys and pinnacle of human-ness is going to stand up against a Ring (or get away from a Ring). But that will never happen, so Sinestro will make a mistake of some sort and Batman will get away un-murdered. When Batman is stripped of his plot armor, you get things like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6saLrn3UY

Though I disagree that he'd stay in the plane so long. Whether that would have made a difference, I don't know, as the whole thing was decided by a web poll after all.

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