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Having seen Mx0 frequently get referenced all over this forum as a great series that was tragically canceled, I decided to give it a shot. I read the first ~25 or so chapters, but it seems entirely generic and I have no idea why it's so beloved. It's nothing but a hodgepodge of tropes: unusual/occult/magical high school hidden in plain sight, brawler protagonist, fish out of water plotline, but but but my true highschool love, starting from nothing but given a ~special ability~ because he's just so gosh darn pure-hearted, bog standard romance subplot, goofy & perverted sidekick, contrived accidental groping/peeping followed by paint-by-numbers overreactions, etc etc. Does it change after a while? Am I missing something?
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You have to compare it to other Shonen that continues to run in magazines, not the best of the genre.
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Zenzirouj posted:Having seen Mx0 frequently get referenced all over this forum as a great series that was tragically canceled, I decided to give it a shot. I read the first ~25 or so chapters, but it seems entirely generic and I have no idea why it's so beloved. It's nothing but a hodgepodge of tropes: unusual/occult/magical high school hidden in plain sight, brawler protagonist, fish out of water plotline, but but but my true highschool love, starting from nothing but given a ~special ability~ because he's just so gosh darn pure-hearted, bog standard romance subplot, goofy & perverted sidekick, contrived accidental groping/peeping followed by paint-by-numbers overreactions, etc etc. It changed up a lot after the initial "Falls in love with standard cliche girl, stumbles through Magic school having to trick people". You seemed to have stopped right around the point where the tone and plot change up enough for it to be much more unique then the standard shonen power fantasy stuff. It's not so much that the series is especially unique or innovative at the start but how its developed and doesn't hinge on constant magical power-ups and other cliche bs. Also, as you learn more and more about how the in-universe magic works the MC progression and abilities make more sense because there's stuff going on behind the scenes. It's hard to say any more without spoiling it but it definitely stood out by the halfway point through the series. ZerodotJander posted:You have to compare it to other Shonen that continues to run in magazines, not the best of the genre. Also 2006 was when Naruto,Bleach, Negima, etc were at their loving peak, and everything desperately tried to be like them, and Mx0 didn't and strayed far enough away from the typical power level battles that keep getting higher that eventually people got bored of it for not being "typical shounen". It probably would've had much more success in another publication but in WSJ people except certain things from their series, and even getting 99 chapters was a pretty good deal. pentyne fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 17, 2014 |
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Endorph posted:It could be a cool dystopian future type manga, but instead it's 'criminals are the loving worst, and there are no incorrect verdicts, ever' Yeah, it looks like the general message is going to be one that condones the general concept rather than looking at it critically. Which is kind of hosed up.
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, it looks like the general message is going to be one that condones the general concept rather than looking at it critically. Which is kind of hosed up. I originally thought main character guy before we found out he was a member of the torture police. Was going to get falsely accused and convicted of some crime and then would have to do that weird duel thing against the torture police. After winning he would have to use the 3 year timer given to him to prove his innocence.
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New chapter of New Saga - http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Tsuyokute-New-Saga/Ch-011-Read-Online?id=216009
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The vengeance-murder-is-legal thing sounds like it was ripped straight out of Freesia, which did treat it as incredibly hosed up and the people who did it as incredibly broken people.
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Pierson posted:The vengeance-murder-is-legal thing sounds like it was ripped straight out of Freesia, which did treat it as incredibly hosed up and the people who did it as incredibly broken people. The question you have to ask is why such an incredibly poor writer thinks he can successfully crib from freesia. poo poo, the dude was only marginally capable of writing shounen battle manga.
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Serious Frolicking posted:The question you have to ask is why such an incredibly poor writer thinks he can successfully crib from freesia. poo poo, the dude was only marginally capable of writing shounen battle manga. His weird devil-Naruto manga only got attention because so many people harassed him for what looked like a Naruto clone and Kishimoto actually stepped in to say "Leave my brother alone, I'm fine with it".
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pentyne posted:His weird devil-Naruto manga only got attention because so many people harassed him for what looked like a Naruto clone and Kishimoto actually stepped in to say "Leave my brother alone, I'm fine with it". 666 satans story was still somehow more coherent than naruto's.
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Zasze posted:666 satans story was still somehow more coherent than naruto's. You are being overly generous.
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Serious Frolicking posted:You are being overly generous. His point still stands, especially if we take into consideration the past year or two's worth of chapters.
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HiveCommander posted:He forgot to put the 'post Zabuza arc' disclaimer in, but that's usually implied whenever something's compared to Naruto.
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The latest arc of Karakuri Circus just ended on an insanely badass note. http://bato.to/read/_/291646/karakuri-circus_v16_ch152_by_funnuraba
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Paracelsus posted:The chuunin exam arc was really good, and I think still stands up as the best long arc I've seen in that sort of series, with lots of plot progression and effective use of the series' large cast. The "rescue Sasuke" arc wasn't as good, but still decent. Everything after the timeskip has been awful, though, and I've only checked a new chapter every once in a while out of a vague "may as well see how it ends" feeling. Eh, The Hidan and Kazuku/Shikamaru arc > pretty much any arc besides Zabuza. That arc was drat near perfect. The only flaws being the occasional interlude to Naruto training. And even those weren't that bad. Also Flame of Recca and Yu Yu Hakusho did the long tournament arc with plot progression better(If you want to count the Hunter Exam then that too, but that was the intro arc so shrug).
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Dexo posted:Eh, The Hidan and Kazuku/Shikamaru arc > pretty much any arc besides Zabuza. I stopped following Naruto some time at the start of the year when my manga app stopped putting up new chapters for it and I just never got around to reading it elsewhere. I heard it went pretty downhill with Naruto ans Sasuke dying, but coming back to life as ninja Yin and Yang or some poo poo.
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Naruto's problem was the same problem that kills like 90% of every shounen manga I've ever enjoyed, which is time skips. Time skips are really bad plot devices and shouldn't be used.
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Stop talking about Naruto and read Karakuri Circus you idiots.
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i read Sayonara Football http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/sayonara-football-r2597 over the weekend and it was a decent short little shounen story about a girl who wants to play soccer. the only reason i read it was because it was by the same person who makes the Your Lie in April manga which is one of my favorite anime/manga going on right now.
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Stop!! Hibari-kun! is very good. http://bato.to/comic/_/stop-hibari-kun-r14122
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coathat posted:Stop!! Hibari-kun! is very good. i liked this story and i hope Kousaku and Hibari go on a date ----------------
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I picked up Super Doctor K and it's great. You are already healed!
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Please do not post  in this thread.Dick Spacious CPA posted:i liked this story and i hope Kousaku and Hibari go on a date Me too.
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Does anyone remember Choujin Gakuen? Well, there's new chapters since last we checked!
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CVE posted:New spin-off where Kuroko and the generaton of Miracles take on their own racist Americans. Remember all those glorious facts Eyeshield brought to us and wait to see them reimagined just with basketball this time I freaking love Kuroko's, full disclosure I also loved Prince of Tennis throughout. Racist disrespectful Americans are a troupe I can always get behind. It's a good cheap trope to get behind when you don't have time to introduce actual characterization for a group of people. But shrug, This will be better than Eyeshield as, the players are are all just as cocky as the Americans (well besides Kuroko).
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CVE posted:New spin-off where Kuroko and the generaton of Miracles take on their own racist Americans. Remember all those glorious facts Eyeshield brought to us and wait to see them reimagined just with basketball this time That teapot on the last page, 
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The Author loves his Lewis Caroll.
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Dexo posted:I freaking love Kuroko's, full disclosure I also loved Prince of Tennis throughout. No doubt this will be one big dick-waving contest which streetball is quite a fitting premise I think. Also I love Kuroko, Captain Tsubasa, PoT and co. althought with the ridiculousness of Kuroko and PoT middle/high school students I just wish to see what actual pros could do in universe (given that attempted murder in PoT seems to be an acceptable way to win a game of tennis especially in New Prince of Tennis )
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CVE posted:No doubt this will be one big dick-waving contest which streetball is quite a fitting premise I think. Also I love Kuroko, Captain Tsubasa, PoT and co. althought with the ridiculousness of Kuroko and PoT middle/high school students I just wish to see what actual pros could do in universe (given that attempted murder in PoT seems to be an acceptable way to win a game of tennis especially in New Prince of Tennis I would really like to see this too. Since only the best players get scouted from high school sports for college teams, and only the best college players can go pro, professional teams must be composed entirely of shounen sports manga protagonists with ridiculous special abilities and crazy character designs.
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Pro matches require concrete bunkers or a minimum safe distance of one kilometer.
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So Knon Kanoja wa Fiction Desu has ended. The ending was super meta, but it was alright for being a shounen romance. It's much more enjoyable compared to Shishunki no Iron Maiden, which has also ended, probably because the MC isn't as much as a jerk in the start.
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CVE posted:New spin-off where Kuroko and the generaton of Miracles take on their own racist Americans. Remember all those glorious facts Eyeshield brought to us and wait to see them reimagined just with basketball this time Japanese fiction just loves jerking itself off with their high school athletes being the best in the world. What's even funnier is its all sports they are pretty terrible at internationally. Japan does pretty good in Judo and Gymnastics at the Olympics but all the team sports manga is "magical powered Japanese beat arrogant and racist foreigners". Actually, that kind of applies to all manga involving foreigners. It would be pretty entertaining if the plot was US streetball players aren't proficient enough to beat a team that masters teamwork, precision shooting, and the fundamentals, but given the thug caricatures used for the team I assume it'll be completely different. pentyne fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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To be fair, american sports fiction is pretty much the same way.
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Endorph posted:To be fair, american sports fiction is pretty much the same way. Yeah, but its always against other Americans. Plus its sports the US is internationally famous for, baseball, football, basketball, NASCAR, etc. If there was some US sports fiction about being the greatest soccer team it would be equally stupid.
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pentyne posted:Yeah, but its always against other Americans.
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